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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on Apr 24, 2018 11:03:04 GMT -5
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Apr 24, 2018 11:04:32 GMT -5
Yeah, good luck with that, Trips.
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Post by MAGGLE on Apr 24, 2018 11:07:34 GMT -5
Makes sense to me, but then again I´m not a SJW.
It used to be their culture forever, lets give them some time to change and see their wrongdoings.
Or just be ignorant and hate mindlessly, up to you.
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Post by Surfer Sandman on Apr 24, 2018 11:08:13 GMT -5
I'm not fond of this event solely due to political reasons that I can't discuss here. I will say that it's an insult that the women cannot perform there as well.
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Apr 24, 2018 11:16:27 GMT -5
"I understand that people are questioning it, but you have to understand that every culture is different and just because you don’t agree with a certain aspect of it, it doesn’t mean it’s not a relevant culture with a f***load of money."
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Post by abjordans on Apr 24, 2018 11:20:13 GMT -5
This is my thoughts on this. There have been lots of instances in history where a band or performer goes to a places they would not have been able to perform at previously due to political issues and things of that nature. They are typically applauded and seen as being at the forefront of change, as well as providing great entertainment to a group of people who has not normally had that available to them.
WWE does it, and their fans (in large, not all) use it as another opportunity to shit on them and essentially label the company evil. The relationship between WWE and their “fans” is really fascinating to me.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Apr 24, 2018 11:21:09 GMT -5
Don't see what the issue is, that's about the best possible answer he could've given.
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Post by theironyuppie on Apr 24, 2018 11:23:30 GMT -5
Don't see what the issue is, that's about the best possible answer he could've given. Yeah, there is no perfect answer here.
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Post by BorneAgain on Apr 24, 2018 11:26:56 GMT -5
Given that the event was unlikely to be HHH's idea to begin with, kudos to him for at least trying to put an understandable spin on it.
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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on Apr 24, 2018 11:28:18 GMT -5
Cash over ethics is the encompassing issue.
It's almost certainly not Hunter's call to do this, but he has to defend the Vince decisions, so it's perfectly fair to rag on him for it.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Apr 24, 2018 11:29:00 GMT -5
Don't see what the issue is, that's about the best possible answer he could've given. Yeah, there is no perfect answer here. Yeah, Hunter and Steph take alot of shit here but they're actually pretty f***ing good at the PR/Media stuff. I can only imagine what Vince would've said in the same situation
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Post by Aboutreika18 on Apr 24, 2018 11:38:45 GMT -5
That's the best answer he could've given.
And I don't blame WWE for not turning down the buckets of cash (Thanks Josh) the Saudi royals are throwing their way, along with the long term deal they have in place.
You'd be absolutely stupid to turn it down from a business standpoint.
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Post by ASYLUMHAUSEN on Apr 24, 2018 11:38:54 GMT -5
.....oh boy.
That's gonna generate some (online) heat.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2018 11:44:03 GMT -5
This is my thoughts on this. There have been lots of instances in history where a band or performer goes to a places they would not have been able to perform at previously due to political issues and things of that nature. They are typically applauded and seen as being at the forefront of change, as well as providing great entertainment to a group of people who has not normally had that available to them. WWE does it, and their fans (in large, not all) use it as another opportunity to shit on them and essentially label the company evil. The relationship between WWE and their “fans” is really fascinating to me. WWE is different than a band or a performer going some place that they previously weren’t able to for political reasons because those bands or performer don’t usually celebrate themselves as being on the forefront of women being treated as equals wwe does that to an exhausting level and if they really wanted to show that they mean business they probably shouldn’t be working with these people until real change takes place not them saying change has taken place. I’m actually shocked how little backlash I’ve seen over this seeing that just 1 short month ago everybody was outraged that wwe was gonna name a meaningless preshow battle royal after a woman that treated women terribly 30 or 40 years ago and now a month later in 2018 women aren’t allowed to be involved in anyway with a wwe show and most people seem fine with that and I find that incredibly sad I was raised to believe men and women are equals even before July 2015 when Stephanie McMahon made that fact acceptable to the masses.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Apr 24, 2018 11:44:09 GMT -5
"I understand that people are questioning it, but you have to understand that every culture is different and just because you don’t agree with a certain aspect of it, it doesn’t mean it’s not a relevant culture with a f***load of money." "As long-uh as the check clears-uh we will-uh do anything-uh even do a show in GTMO-uh. I love money-uh more than I love myself-uh."
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2018 11:46:53 GMT -5
I would like to know if the women are going to just be shafted the big payday. Now that we know how the WWE contracts work and that stars get big pay bumps for every major show they appear on, the entire female roster gets shafted a huge pay day while the entire male roster gets one? f*** you. Give them their own show to make up for it or f*** off.
That's the bullshit part. "Well this is the culture, blah blah blah" Then make it up to your women, WWE. Do something for them rather than act like your hands are tied when they aren't.
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Post by SCCB Was Told To Do Steroids on Apr 24, 2018 11:47:05 GMT -5
On the honorific side, maybe WWE can be an agent of change?
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Post by Juice on Apr 24, 2018 11:48:01 GMT -5
This is the correct answer to the "issue".
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Post by Beets by Schrute on Apr 24, 2018 11:52:05 GMT -5
I just hope the women are getting a share of the money to compensate for the “circumstances” of them not being on the show.
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Apr 24, 2018 11:54:34 GMT -5
It is amazing to me how short sited people are about the whole situation. You may not agree with the laws of a culture of a country but they doesn't mean black ball those countries for a reason. This is one event that CAN start the change, just like in Dec. Remember Alexa and Sasha had the first women's match in Abu Dhabi? Nothing will change unless you start breaking the ice and people seem to not see that. The WWE has fans in every country in the world, it's a global company. Equal right is what everyone wants in every country. WWE believes in that and think about this, 10 years ago it wasn't the case in the WWE itself. Changes are a process and this is the first step for the next one. I get people are concern for a payday and guess what, I'm sure they get something soon to make up for it.
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