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Post by -Lithium- on Aug 4, 2017 18:42:55 GMT -5
Listen. I love both guys to death and the match would be pretty anticipated. But saying it would sell out a 70 thousand plus stadium on its own is waaaay too much. AJ is popular but he's still below Reigns, Cena, Lesnar and whatever other old guy they cart out. Saying he gets big pops doesnt really mean he's Stone Cold Steve Austin turning the company around business wise. Real shit. HBK is my all time favorite. That's mah big homie. Dude was never ever EVER a big draw. That's the reality of the situation. And AJ is as much of a draw as anybody on the current roster...as in not at all, lmao. Like, I don't know why people get all pissy about this. I remember this same thing happened when people pointed out that Kurt Angle was never much of a draw and that comedy shit he did early on in his career essentially killed him as being the reliable A-side of a card. It's not an insult, very few guys in this business are real draws on a major scale. That's nothing to be ashamed of. Now, if they did this match as a main event, would it do good live ticket sales? Sure...because it's Wrestlemania and it's 2017 and people go to Mania because it's f***ing Mania with no real regard for the card. But yeah, AJ vs. Shawn, on paper, isn't a particularly high drawing match, even if it would be fantastic. And honestly, I don't even know why I talk about "draws" on this board anymore because the wrestling game is so f***ed up, the concept of a draw has become really muddled. I have no problem with people saying someone wasn't like a ratings smash or draw huge money. I have a problem when these stupid idiots who like wait for the IWC to like someone and only then seem to form their opinion on that guy, and it's always negative. Anytime I say I say I'd love for the Cena/Punk Feb 2013 RAW match to main event over Rock/Cena, someone has to come in with "OH STUPID SMARK WRESTLINGS MONEY THATS WHAT MATTERS MONEY PUNK NOT DRAW ROCK IS!1!!". I sincerely, and I mean SINCERELY could not care less. I'm stating my opinion. I'm stating what I would have liked to watch. You don't stand outside movie theaters showing a more arty film and scream at the people coming out that they should go see whatever mindless action movie, so why do it with wrestling? Another comparison is that there was an episode of Breaking Bad in Season 1 that got less than a million viewers. It doesn't change the fact that it's a much better episode than any random, dime a dozen episode of Law and Order...
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Post by -Lithium- on Aug 3, 2017 15:01:32 GMT -5
Honestly the thing is Taker really probably should've just retired after Mania 25. He had some great matches after that but after his comeback later on in 2009 he was never the same. Undertaker was great till 2010, IMO. Though his best in ring years will always be 2006-09. It's amazing how much he stepped it up and such a late stage.
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Post by -Lithium- on Jul 30, 2017 4:42:55 GMT -5
Best of the 20s.
Edge/Foley, HHH/Cena, WHC, MITB, Mickie/Trish, HBK/Vince. All delivered in different ways. The audience mood in the HHH/Cena match made it feel huge. Even though I HATED Cema retaining at the time, it made the show all that more memorable.
I think it helps that the show took place in a 6 month period where the show was pretty good. NYR 06 to ONS 2 is one of my favorite times in the WWE. The fact that the show dipped below a 4.0 rating one time during that entire time says something...
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Post by -Lithium- on Jul 26, 2017 21:10:06 GMT -5
I'm glad it didn't happen. Plus it wouldn't be nearly as memorable. Instead of being this amazing shocking moment it would just came across as the culmination of WWEs constant attempts to f*** Bryan and the fans over. Imagine how depressing it would have been to have to watch DB feud with shitty ass Kane and Stephanie McMahon for months and THEN get decimated by Lesnar. Even worse that it would have been for nothing seeing as Reigns destiny to be hated was set in stone the moment the senile old man running WWE took such a personal interest in him.
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Post by -Lithium- on Jul 19, 2017 19:42:43 GMT -5
Wasn't WM 18 suppose to be HHH vs Austin?
Also, I'm pretty sure HHH would have ended up being the defector to WCW.
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Post by -Lithium- on Jul 17, 2017 22:54:25 GMT -5
They should tease a Daniel Bryan return and then have Mysterio come out.
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Post by -Lithium- on Jul 16, 2017 4:02:06 GMT -5
Remember that one RAW where they pretended Bret Hart and Taker were going to have a match until Kane/Nexus came out?
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Post by -Lithium- on Jul 14, 2017 23:42:51 GMT -5
I loved Johnny up until they made him another generic evil boss. Early out of touch but not evil Johnny Ace was great.
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Post by -Lithium- on Jul 10, 2017 14:23:58 GMT -5
Am I alone in liking the laptop (until the reveal that it was f***ing Hornswoggle of course)? I did. It was the closest thing to an impartial GM as we got. Also, how is Eric a McMahon rip off when he played that role a full year before Vince?
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Post by -Lithium- on Jul 5, 2017 0:21:07 GMT -5
Why top 5? Caus...oh, wait.
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Post by -Lithium- on Jul 3, 2017 21:43:28 GMT -5
Daniel Bryan should have been pushed as the top face almost a year prior to them finally (kind of) giving in and realizing the fans weren't going to let them f*** him over.
Edge around WM 22. Edge was THE reason to watch RAW at that point, and was for the rest of the year. They did huge numbers with him as champ, and he has to lose it so we can go back to the status quo and have a WM feud where Cena verbally sucked HHHs dick every week while the WWE seemed to think pointing out Cenas flaws was the way to go to combat the fan backlash.
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Post by -Lithium- on Jul 3, 2017 21:00:50 GMT -5
I was about to say Lesnar talking shit was out of place, but then I realized it could be character development. Lesnars been punked out so he thinks he has to make noise as opposed to everyone else where he easily destroyed them, so he doesn't feel the need to talk.
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Post by -Lithium- on Jun 26, 2017 21:04:58 GMT -5
Really? Defending? No, he hasn't.
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Post by -Lithium- on Jun 19, 2017 17:22:18 GMT -5
Crowd reactions, negative or positive, tells WWE that you are somehow invested in the product/storyline/etc. I've said it before and I'll say it again - respond with silence and it will go away. Or you go away and they will eventually get the message. Except that they've already proven with Roman Reigns that they'd rather mute the crowd into silence for him than to have the crowd mercilessly booing him. Exactly. Them muting the fans instantly 100% destroys their bullshit narrative of "HES ALREADY THE BEST HEEL IN THE COMPANY" or w/e latest bullshit they tried to push as defense against the absolute massive failure to push Roman as top face. If the senile old man likes you, no reaction is bad enough. If he doesn't, no reaction is good enough. If Daniel Bryan got 5% of the boos that Reigns gets, he'd instantly point to that as the reason to not push him. This shit will go on until that delusional, creative cancerous idiot goes the f*** away.
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Post by -Lithium- on Jun 15, 2017 15:05:51 GMT -5
It's just typical idiot Vince. The guy the fans want to cheer is made to be the heel and "THE GUY" the fans despise (also directly due to Vinces usual awful direct input) is made to be the face. He's such a cancer to the creative process...
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Post by -Lithium- on May 14, 2017 18:56:06 GMT -5
Remember some woman in the audience shouting "I hope you choke on your apple!" at Carlito? God damn it. I was gonna bring that up. Another one that happened at RAW Homecoming. Austin is flirting with Linda and they tease a kiss, and someone in the crowd yelled "GIVE HER THE TONGUE" and Austin stopped and looked towards him and said "What?". You can't really hear it on the broadcast. I only know what he said cause I was there.
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Post by -Lithium- on May 12, 2017 19:32:39 GMT -5
It's not like most figures.
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Post by -Lithium- on Apr 17, 2017 20:51:31 GMT -5
The one guarantee is that after the show it will be a collective 330,000 fans over four different WMs that booed Roman out the door as Vince looks on smiling like the senile old man hes become.
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Post by -Lithium- on Apr 17, 2017 20:46:07 GMT -5
If the shit about JBL is true, I'd be gleeful to find out he was paralyzed. What a piece of shit. All of this bullying shit AND the "ZOMG DIDNT SHAKE EVERYONE IN THE BUILDINS HAND SO YOU AINT TEH RESPECTFULZ SO PUNISH" horseshit needs to go the f*** away.
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Post by -Lithium- on Apr 17, 2017 17:40:12 GMT -5
HHH vs Sting. I don't give a shit about "WELL STINGS OLD SCHOOL AND HE WANTED TO GO OUT ON HIS BACK". No. Doesn't matter. That's the point where you override him. I'm sure HHH put up a HUGE fight when told Sting wanted to lose, BTW. *rolls eyes*
HHH/Booker HHH/Orton WM 25 HHH/Punk NOC HHH/Brock at Summerslam 2012. I still remember the AIM chat. Someone said something like "...he f***ing tapped!" HHH/Cena at WM 22. Everyone thought HHH was taking the title back. HHH/Cena/Orton
BTW, I don't get how anyone could have been surprised at a Cena win in 2005-2015. Logic went out the window.
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