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Post by -Lithium- on Nov 11, 2017 1:57:38 GMT -5
Just wanted to add that not a chance in hell they'd waste 98 Stone Cold on Dr Death. No one gave a shit about him prior to this, and no one would have given a shit about him if he won. Same way no one gave a f*** about Bart Gunn once he won. This was the Monday Night Wars. You don't just hand out feuds to people who aren't massively over cause they have a friend in management and did something (that no one in the then current day audience knows about) in another fed years prior.
What feud is being cut short for Austin - Williams? Highway to Hell? Kane-Taker-Austin? The DEADLY Game tournament? Is shitty ass Dr Death going to main event St Valentines Day Massacre?
This was before Vince had 30 shitty Hollywood writers to try and convince himself he wasn't the carny that he is, so shit wasn't just being thrown against the wall to see what sticks. Also, like I said this was during the peak of the MNW. Not one week could be wasted to give some nobody a main event against the biggest name in the company as a favor to an executive. Let alone an actual program. The only possible way would be if Dr Death was to get majorly over, and that was never ever going to happen.
I don't know why this dumb supposed idea annoys me so much, but it does. I think cause its just pure delusion...
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Post by -Lithium- on Nov 5, 2017 19:19:52 GMT -5
I used to have Cena/Orton pegged as a future dream match, then the first SmackDown vs. RAW game came out and got me more hyped for it eventually happening, and then they pissed it away for the first time in a throwaway lame DQ finish on the Guerrero RAW tribute, and then they ran it into the ground in 2009/2010 and OH MY f***ING GOD PLEASE MAKE IT STOP AHHHHHHH. I was wrong about that. Could always tell they had big plans for him though. I love Cena. Lol @ the Orton/Cena first match. I remember me and my friend trying to wake up his little brother to see when we realized Orton was going to be Cenas opponent that night. I guess we really bought into the "This is the new Austin/Rock rivalry" thing. It was disappointing though. Though I remember being pretty hyped in 2007 when they started feuding. Mainly cause Orton had just started doing his psycho who punts people in the head thing and I really liked it. Of course Cena went over clean at Summerslam and there wasn't even the obvious "FU countered into RKO" spot that I was looking forward to...
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Post by -Lithium- on Nov 3, 2017 16:28:59 GMT -5
Poor Matt. The guy gets the biggest opportunity ever, and f***s it up by delivering a f***ing ABYSMAL return promo. Six months after telling Edge, erm "Adam" that he would ruin his career, Edge is WWE champion and RAW is having the best ratings it has in years, and Matt is teaming with Tatanka on the B Show...
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Post by -Lithium- on Oct 14, 2017 18:19:41 GMT -5
This seems kind of tongue in cheek. Also for all the talk of jealously, I'd imagine HHH would much rather be in line to take control of the WWE, than do movies, no matter the success level.
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Post by -Lithium- on Oct 14, 2017 0:52:58 GMT -5
No one will ever be more associated with wrestling than Hogan. Not even close.
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Post by -Lithium- on Oct 10, 2017 2:01:42 GMT -5
Another great JR line: “What did I just see?!? WHAT DID I JUST SEE?!?” when Shawn kicked out of the Tombstone at Mania 25, coupled with Taker’s shocked face. Still think Shawn/Taker was the last Great WWE match. I love during the replay of the Tombstone, JR perfectly times out: "Chokeslams, Last Rides, Tombstones...and a KICKOUT, and a KICKOUT, and a KICKOUT!" He says the first "kickout" at the exact same time Michaels kicks out in the replay. It was great. Also, one call I really love for some reason: "Triple H is still the champion! Why!?" - JR at WM 2000. Finally, Cole was never better than MITB 2011. The "Oh My God" when Punk pins Cena was amazing. He wasn't over the top at all. He just had this "...it actually happened." tone and it was perfect.
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Post by -Lithium- on Oct 4, 2017 14:08:49 GMT -5
Vince ruining Reigns in 9 months was bad enough, but for things to turn around and them mess it up AGAIN. Good God, what incompetence. Like what a story. Start of the year Reigns is hated in that same arena, and by the end of it the fans are actually embracing him.
Who would have ever thought you'd hear a "YES" chant for a Reigns kick out in 2015. Also, Reigns seems so happy when hes on the middle rope with his arms out, but it almost looks like the fans positive reaction was just as much a reason for it as winning the title belt.
To be fair though, he IS going up against Sheamus. The then epitome of the WWE "LOOK AT ALL THESE TITLES AND WINS HE HAS ISNT HE IMPORTANT!?" mentality...
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Post by -Lithium- on Oct 2, 2017 20:07:29 GMT -5
This is the Roman we want. Not the Roman who cuts a ten minute promo about how he lets his actions do the talking. Yeah. Romans a cool dude. I could totally get behind him if the booking was right. That's what happens when the senile old man takes a close interest in you. Vince is such a delusional idiot. Took him 9 months to give Bryan the title when he was absolutely, undeniably the most popular face in the company, and it took him 9 months to take this badass character who the fans loved and just ensured that they will never, ever be universally over as top face. The same way he f***ed up Diesel, Lashley, and even Cena. He and his flunkies need to go the f*** away...
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Post by -Lithium- on Oct 1, 2017 2:54:53 GMT -5
I quite enjoyed Tazz's weirdly surrealist brand of commentary, all the more surreal for how serious his character was in ring, and how seriously he allegedly took that gimmick. He had his own strange catchphrases like rocketbustah, came up with a few genuinely iconic things ('Here comes the pain' might have been a writer's idea but he got it over), and at the Rumbles in 2004 and 2005 had this incredibly bizarre chemistry with JR that shouldn't be, but just is. Him prodding JR to use his catchphrases was f***ing gold, to be honest. Outside of that, though, he mostly sucked. But in a way that was fun to listen to. Like a much more coherent but even more irrelevant Booker T. JR and Taz was a great team, but to be fair, I think its more just cause JR is amazing and brings everyone up.
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Post by -Lithium- on Sept 30, 2017 16:55:49 GMT -5
When Tazz settled into doing commentary, I remember somebody on the internet saying "They took the Human Suplex Machine, and turned him into Laughing Petey Senerchia, The Mechanic From Hell". I don't know why, but I always found that funny. "LOOK AT TAZ. THIS MAN WAS A KILLER. HE WAS A MACHINE. HE WAS A WRESTLER. A GREAT WRESTLER, A REAL MAN. NOW HES A FAT, OBNOXIOUS COLOR COMMENTATOR, AND NOT EVEN A GOOD ONE."
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Post by -Lithium- on Sept 27, 2017 14:48:17 GMT -5
Its funny cause part of the reason Rollins is cheered and Reigns isn't is the opposite of what the comics depict. Rollins earned it. Reigns didn't.
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Post by -Lithium- on Sept 4, 2017 21:50:33 GMT -5
Texiz.
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Post by -Lithium- on Sept 2, 2017 0:08:42 GMT -5
Does anyone think that what happened with SDL is that WWE lost interest after the initial freshness rather than any intentional sabotage by Vince? It's happened with other shows. I don't know. Even in the original draft it always went 1) SD builds up people 2) RAW takes people SD built up 3) RAW gives SD people it ruined. 4) SD builds up people RAW ruined. 5) Repeat 2-5. The shit would be infuriating. Every draft Brand ADHD raied Smackdown. Except for 2009 when it really seemed like they didn't even realize how great the SD roster was till after it was over, and by September Edge and Jeff were gone and shitty Batista was there squashing people.
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Post by -Lithium- on Aug 25, 2017 20:52:31 GMT -5
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Post by -Lithium- on Aug 25, 2017 14:03:31 GMT -5
I can't f***ing wait for that day. The creative cancer finally gone. That's a bit much If you mean its a bit much in that I'm kind of saying inadvertently that I'm basically waiting for the day Vince dies, I can see that. As much as I absolutely hate the guys influence on the creative direction of the company, I'd never say I want the man dead. But it doesn't change the fact that yeah, I think the creative direction will be much better when that day comes. Basically what CM Punk said, but I think the "doofus son in law" will do a much better job. It's the "idiotic daughter" we have to worry about.
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Post by -Lithium- on Aug 20, 2017 23:25:11 GMT -5
Nah he'll die while in a house show in some shit town. We joke about this but the day Vince dies 3/4 of this board will pay tribute and cry like f***ing babies. For every one of us who occasionally (or some of you constantly) bitch about WWE, that man has put enough smiles on faces for years that every one of us should thank him for it. He isn't perfect and he has done some rotten shit but so has everyone else in this world. Vince is one of the most innovative businessmen in the history of the planet. He has a rightful place as a giant in entertainment. We're all here, right now, posting here because of him. Thats all fine. I agree. He's still a cancer to the creative direction of his company, and really seems to have grown into a senile old man.
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Post by -Lithium- on Aug 20, 2017 21:38:55 GMT -5
I can't f***ing wait for that day. The creative cancer finally gone.
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Post by -Lithium- on Aug 14, 2017 0:51:19 GMT -5
I can't tell you how much I hate "PRESENCE" as the quality that supposedly makes him better. A vague intangible. How convenient.
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Post by -Lithium- on Aug 7, 2017 12:45:24 GMT -5
That may have been one of the greatest disappointments in recent WWE history. The build for that match was insane, people were ready to buy Orton as a legit threat to Bork. That match should have been an all-out war, pushing both guys' credibility even further. Instead, Bork is a lazy f*** and booking actually thought this crap was a good idea. This is just about every Lesnar match post Night of Champions 2014. Every time I think "Hey, this could actually be interesting. *Name* could counter Brocks strategy by *thing*". - Rollins could by using his agility and countering suplexes by doing flips and doing quick offense. - Orton could do what he does best and counter things and hit the RKO at times no one would expect it. - Ambrose could use weapons to take Lesnar to the limit. ...and it just never happens. Ever. Same old shit, time and time again. All these guys fed to Lesnar so Roman could have a big WM coronation against that won't mean or do anything. It's bad enough Roman will be handed his fourth WM failed coronation next year, but its even worse that the senile old man running the company doesn't realize it's not going to help anything. Romans fans will still see him in the same light, and will those who hate him. Just give it the f*** up already.
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Post by -Lithium- on Aug 5, 2017 21:37:46 GMT -5
If Cena is going away after Summerslam, why not put over someone clean as a sheet. Helps the product. What I'm asking is why does it matter if Cena wanted to do it or was told to? Maybe he doesn't respect Nakamura at all. Either way the result is the same. You don't want to believe that finally the face of the company realized than losing a fake match and helping someone is better than winning a fake match and hurting them? When do we ever have someone come along with that mindset in a late stage of his career? You want him to be like Hogan and just gobble people up for no reason other than the fact that he'd rather make one million and win than make five and lose? But whats so cool about this is that Cena doesn't even really have anything to gain by losing. Forget losing and making five, hes supposedly losing and making the same amount. Who wouldn't want to believe that's how hes thinking?
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