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Post by "Nature Boy" Ric Moranis on Sept 11, 2007 9:00:05 GMT -5
This was the stupidest thing in wrestling history roughly 11 days after it started. Congrats to any that still take part.
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Post by "Nature Boy" Ric Moranis on Sept 26, 2007 22:05:30 GMT -5
The industry is currently at 32% of its peak, and is not headed towards a boom period.
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Post by "Nature Boy" Ric Moranis on Aug 13, 2007 22:47:18 GMT -5
Undertaker too. When Bruiser Brody did that masked "Red River Jack" character in WCCW, Brody was forced to team up with Red River Jack...who was then a very young Taker in a mask. Might have been one of the first, if not first things Taker ever did.
I'd think that Taker and Austin would be on the DVD, even for just being fans of the glory years.
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Post by "Nature Boy" Ric Moranis on Sept 24, 2007 23:42:13 GMT -5
HOLY CRAP!!! Record the sounds from the video, and play them backwards, you will be pleasently surprised at what you hear my friends... Sounds from Jericho's debut countdown music and titantron. Told you guys. That kind of stuff is far easier to figure out than what all of those screenshots of random file tags taken from a backlog on an old WWE TV production computer "mean".
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Post by "Nature Boy" Ric Moranis on Sept 24, 2007 23:14:44 GMT -5
I don't see how this could mean anything other than Chris Jericho.
For weeks and weeks, they'll run this, and people will see "SAVE_US.222" enough times and will start wondering what it all means. Then, the lights will go out, this video will flash on the Titantron, stop on "SAVE_US.222", only the first 2 will blip and turn to a "Y", third will blink and turn to a "J". The crowd will pop huge when they see "SAVE_US.Y2J" on the big screen, and Jericho will be standing on the stage with his back turned and arms pointing outward. Like he always does, and with a similar buildup to the way he came in the first time.
I'd almost think they were telegraphing Jericho's return...had I not just read 16+ pages of theories ranging from Cyber Sunday to a subscription website. And I doubt they'd put a debuting OVW worker vignette on right after the main event. It's a main eventer, and it's not HBK. It's Jericho. You could probably even play this audio backwards, and find out that those noises that "sound like Jericho's countdown clock" are in fact those exact sounds...but played backwards.
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Post by "Nature Boy" Ric Moranis on Sept 18, 2007 3:46:56 GMT -5
At this point, I'm pretty sure that John Cena could pin a working Bear Trap without suffering permanent disfigurement. So I'd add a Bear Trap to the main event four-way.
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Post by "Nature Boy" Ric Moranis on Sept 19, 2007 3:36:08 GMT -5
I could see Big Vis coming out dressed as a heel U.S. mailman, with a pit bull from his delivery route that he caught and trained.
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Post by "Nature Boy" Ric Moranis on Sept 19, 2007 5:53:24 GMT -5
Imagine TNA fans spending about $30 just to shout "TNA" in a WWE PPV. Stupidity wins again. Yep, stupidity won again. Just like those "stupid" ECW fans at WWF live shows in 1995-1996 that chanted "ECW" during mindless and boring crap, and played a small, historically acknowledged part in making Vince McMahon realize his product was complete and utter bullshit and needed revamped. Vince sure was "stupid" for paying even the slightest attention to those idiotic fans, and going on the greatest run in the history of his company. People shouting the names of Vince's competition at Vince's product can only be considered a good thing in the long run for the WWE and the WWE's fans.
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Post by "Nature Boy" Ric Moranis on Sept 19, 2007 6:16:10 GMT -5
I'd still welcome a short return for Macho Man, however who knows if it'll ever happen. My mind is boggled at how he hardly ever gets recognition despite being at one time the second biggest name in wrestling. A short return would have to be outside of the ring. When he was in TNA, he looked terrible in his "match" (a run-in at the end of a six-man). Once the cowboy hat, sunglasses, and giant coat came off, he was super skinny, looked about 190 pounds, had lost ALL of his hair on top, and the rest of his hair was short. He looked like a shriveled-up skinny old version of Arn Anderson, after robbing a black hair-dye factory. I was worried that he was sick. Luckily, he wasn't. And that was three years ago. But there's nothing wrong with getting old. Doesn't mean he's not a first-ballot HOFer.
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Post by "Nature Boy" Ric Moranis on Sept 19, 2007 5:23:12 GMT -5
In 1999 or so, after Savage missed a year of time with blown knees in WCW and wasn't happy, weren't most of the legitmate news sources reporting that Vince wanted him back in the WWF to stick another nail in WCW while it was close?
This was right before Savage's weird final run where he returned to WCW with hair implants, Gorgeous George/Mona/Madusa, and weighed an insane 275-pounds. I think this may have even been the second time Savage was considering going back to the WWF, with early 1997 (his NWO midcard run/expiring Turner deal) being the first. The Steph thing could've happened in 1993 (or whenever), but the guy was one of the major perpetually unhappy WCW people I remember from that period that were always rumored to be going back to WWE (Hall, Nash, and Flair being the others), but never did.
So, I still don't get it. But, I just like to assume that Vince thinks Macho's crazy from a business standpoint, and just doesn't want to deal with him (even Dixie Carter supposedly doesn't), so Vince doesn't if he can avoid it. It's a shame though, Savage is one of the top-10 guys in the history of the WWF/WWE, IMO.
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Post by "Nature Boy" Ric Moranis on Sept 19, 2007 4:05:55 GMT -5
So Mae Young and Uecker get a nod, but not Randy Savage? Again I don't see the reason of having a "HOF" if you aren't going to honor "the best". smurfing stupid QFT. I'd like to see the Von Erichs (I think we will), DiBiase, and the Ravishing One...but keeping Randy Savage out of the Hall of Fame and not making a 3-disc official WWE DVD of his career is pretty much the closest thing to printing up $1,000,000 of fresh new currency, then immediately burning it before ever issuing it. Vince has his head up his ass for not giving the Macho Man his proper due.
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Post by "Nature Boy" Ric Moranis on Sept 19, 2007 3:18:09 GMT -5
If anyone cares, the Slaughter vs. Patterson "Alley Fight" match from 1981 was Wrestling Observer's "Match of the Year". Don't know if this "Alley Fight" is the same one (who knows how many times they did the match around the territory), but I'm interested in seeing it. Supposedly, Slaughter was a tremendous brawler and decent worker before he became older, really fat, and hawked G.I. Joes...and Patterson was Patterson.
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Post by "Nature Boy" Ric Moranis on Sept 19, 2007 3:04:46 GMT -5
Not trying to flame but I think both are overrated. So, yeah, you could say Orton is today's Jake Roberts.
Jake Roberts (as much as I like old school Jake) wasn't even Top-10 caliber during his own prime. Jake was a journeyman, who had maybe four decent years at a national level. That said, he was cool as f***, but I think he's tremendously overrated on most parts of the internet (and still better than Orton). Just my opinion.
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Post by "Nature Boy" Ric Moranis on Sept 18, 2007 3:19:37 GMT -5
I've been saying it for a while (not on these boards but to myself), but I'd love to see him on Raw with a good push. Basically have him swap shows with Snitsky, give him a couple of squash matches and promos to see how the fans react, and go from there. I'd love to see Cor Von vs. Cena. Only problem I have is that name though...definately preffered Monty Brown. Spot on. It's ridiculous that WWE keeps giving guys like Snitsky, Masters, and Big Daddy V chance after chance to get over, when all they have to do is use their squash matches/segments for "Marcus Cor Von" when he debuted, then stick a mic in front of his grill for 45 seconds before or after the match and they'd have a star, quick. It's really not asking a whole lot, and I know that the guy is out right now for whatever reason...but they weren't exactly using him properly before, not even on a nothing-happening show like ECW was earlier in the year (it's gotten much better). They didn't make him look like a jobber, but they didn't make him look like anything special either. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think Cor Von's more "ready" than an Elijah Burke or Matt Striker, but that's the level WWE had him at push-wise. After one month of using Monty Brown properly in WWE, he'd be more over than 90 Snitskys. Monty wasn't a mega super-duper star in TNA, but that's TNA's deal/fault, and he wasn't a great fit for what they were doing while he was around (he felt too "WWE" back when the promotion wasn't giving off that vibe). He's a perfect fit in WWE though, and Vince hasn't capitalized on that so far, in a time where WWE needs new stars, and it's an uphill struggle in creating them.
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Post by "Nature Boy" Ric Moranis on Sept 18, 2007 1:39:04 GMT -5
I think the guy's a star. He's not the best worker, but he's intense in the ring, and his mic ability would get him super over if this were the WWE of the late-90s. If he had promo time on say, RAW, every Monday night since he debuted...the guy would be super over as a face or heel. You can almost sense that he's a huge fan of The Rock and Stone Cold's larger than life, real characters, but he's one of the few that's entered the wrestling business since those days that truly "gets" how to pull of that character.
Plus, giving an NFL vet that's played in a Super Bowl (and actually became a decent wrestling talent) a fake name like "Marcus Cor Von" is beyond stupid. The guy should've debuted on RAW, and with J.R. oozing weekly over his football credentials, he should've been one of the biggest stars they have by now (aside from sitting out over the family issues).
TNA and WWE have both protected his character. But TNA didn't push him hard enough, and WWE hasn't pushed him hard enough. Kind of a shame. He's very talented.
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Post by "Nature Boy" Ric Moranis on Sept 11, 2007 4:54:18 GMT -5
1993 WCW: Jesse "The Body" Ventura & Tony Schiavone trying to announce anything involving "The Shockmaster" after his botched debut. Considering that WCW tried to save face by making Fred Ottman look like a clutz, it seemed like a plan, Jesse & Tony weren't acting when they continued to always legimately laugh and crack up at the fat man.
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Post by "Nature Boy" Ric Moranis on Sept 12, 2007 18:05:02 GMT -5
Ricky Steamboat and Rey Misterio aren't great interviews, but could main event or steal a show in WWE with their athleticism. IMO, Bret Hart became an average interview, but he was really bland in the beginning, just like Shelton. They got Bret over by letting him do the thing he does best (wrestle), not punish him for what he didn't do best (talk).
It's sacrilege to suggest Shelton's anywhere close to Bret as a worker, and I wouldn't, but his athletic ability is easily unmatched by most in WWE. Give the performer a chance to let their in-ring work do the talking and make the people care about them that way. If WWE creative would've stuck with Benjamin's original face push and not gotten impatient, and NOT tried to fit a square peg in a round hole with the loud shirts and the fake mom character, the fans would've accepted him eventually. The fans have many times before with guys like Bret, Steamboat, Benoit, etc. It just takes patience and long-term planning.
I'm not saying this as a blind "WWE should push great athletes above entertainers" argument because I think there's room for a wide variety of talents in WWE. It's insane to stop pushing a blue-chip athlete because you give him the IC Title, put a loud shirt and sunglasses on him, and he doesn't become The Rock.
Don't try to make him into something he's not. Accentuate the positives. Maybe Shelton doesn't have an ounce of charisma. Well then, why did you hire him in the first place? Because he's a great legitimate athlete, right? Wow, okay! Then run with that! Novel idea. I don't think Big Daddy V gets heat for not being able to hit a 619. That's not what he's there for. He's there to look fat and scary. So, why would you get pissed at a guy like Shelton Benjamin being boring when he's boring anytime he's not hitting cool moves? The cool moves are the un-boring part...so showcase that!
I dunno. I just think Shelton Benjamin's the type of guy that people would care about if given more of a chance to shine with his amazing athleticism...as opposed to sending him out on RAW every week to do a two-minute job in a tag match and wonder why he never gets over.
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Post by "Nature Boy" Ric Moranis on Sept 11, 2007 8:57:49 GMT -5
59. A 6-foot-6, 280-pound sack of poop. 60. Dan Rodimer. You said the same thing twice. LOLLZ!!! I PRECIATE DAT 'CAUSE I DIDNT REEELIZE DAT!
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Post by "Nature Boy" Ric Moranis on Sept 11, 2007 8:53:34 GMT -5
59. A 6-foot-6, 280-pound sack of poop. 60. Dan Rodimer.
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Post by "Nature Boy" Ric Moranis on Sept 11, 2007 7:48:09 GMT -5
I've never been a huge fan of his in-ring work. He's a master at psychology but his moveset isn't something to ride home about, most of his matches are the same. I'd say 8 in his prime, about 6, now. I'm weary about dissing Flair's moveset, because Shawn Michaels and Bret Hart don't have movesets to write home about by today's standards...but they've all put on amazing matches that guys with eight-times the moveset cannot compare to...yet.
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