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Post by The Line on Feb 16, 2008 15:10:51 GMT -5
Now I can buy all these old regular dvds cheap because I will always be able to find a player somewhere if mine dies out. Just think of all these people that went out and bought the complete series of Seinfeld-this just plane sucks. Why do we need this anyway? I'm pretty sure standard DVDs work in HD-DVD players(not sure) and I know for a fact that they do work in Blu-Ray players, so no DVD is obsolete.
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Post by Mr. Backlund on Feb 16, 2008 15:12:45 GMT -5
Honest to God, I think I'm about done with buying dvds and such, aside from tv shows I don't care anymore. So what happened anyway, was it blu ray people pulling crap and putting everyones back against the walls if they went with HD? Blu-Ray had the added benefit of being attached to the PS3 and having a better spec sheet in comparison to HD-DVD. Both formats pulled a lot of crap, with HD-DVD throwing a lot of mud towards the end and signing Dreamworks to an exclusive agreement with the format (payed mostly with Bill Gates money). When Blu-Rays started out-selling HD-DVDs to the tune of 7:1 in Japan and 5:1 in the US, studios not with an exclusive contract jumped to the Blu-Ray ship or chose to be multi-format. The reality is, HD-DVD should've likely bowed out earlier, but rumors are MS funded Tohsiba's losses to prevent Blu-Ray from consolidating the market and allowing MS to introduce downloadable HD media to "skip" the HD generation and move in that direction.
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Post by Libertine on Feb 16, 2008 15:15:30 GMT -5
What's the difference between the two formats?
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Post by Mr. Backlund on Feb 16, 2008 15:15:38 GMT -5
Now I can buy all these old regular dvds cheap because I will always be able to find a player somewhere if mine dies out. Just think of all these people that went out and bought the complete series of Seinfeld-this just plane sucks. Why do we need this anyway? DVD isn't dead, HD-DVD is dead. DVD will likely keep going for the forseeable future until its no longer profitable to do so for companies. Blu-Ray is the heir apparent to the home media format, if and when that happens. Irregardless, Blu-Ray players will still play the DVDs you've bought in the past and even make them look better because they upconvert and can display the DVDs in up to 1080p.
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Post by mysterydriver on Feb 16, 2008 15:18:36 GMT -5
I still buy VHS...so I don't really care.
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Feb 16, 2008 15:19:28 GMT -5
What's the difference between the two formats? Blu-Ray has more space(current Blu-Ray discs can hold up to 50GB with research already in 1TB sized discs), the more compacted layers allow the player to read the data easier, and despite the layers being very thin, it takes a lot to scratch them and even then they can still be read perfectly fine. In the arena of the sensual effects, Blu-Ray produces a more crisp picture, better sounds, and the overall quality is just better than HD-DVD's.
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Post by Maidpool w/ Cleaning Action on Feb 16, 2008 15:19:35 GMT -5
HD-DVD was Toshiba, not Microsoft.
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Post by Psy on Feb 16, 2008 15:21:08 GMT -5
I still buy VHS...so I don't really care. Rebel!
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Post by Mr. Backlund on Feb 16, 2008 15:21:32 GMT -5
HD-DVD was Toshiba, not Microsoft. Toshiba and MS are bed-buddies. The Zune is a reskinned Gigabeat and MS has long been one of the principal supporters of the HD-DVD format, with Toshiba being at the forefront from the manufacturing side.
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Post by HoagieWithPastrami on Feb 16, 2008 15:21:51 GMT -5
See here's the thing.
I don't think Blu-Ray will phase out regular DVD quite as fast because the difference between video and DVD were MUCH greater than the differences between Blu-Ray and regular DVD.
I have a PS3 and a few Blu Ray disks (just for the record, I've got all 3 Resident Evils, Invincible, Blazing Saddles, Crash, and Beerfest). The picture and sound quality and the features are a little bit better than those of a regular DVD, but it's only a fraction of the drastic difference there was between VHS and Blu Ray.
Plus, the Blu Ray player plays regular DVDs and makes them look much better than a regular DVD player does.
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Feb 16, 2008 15:21:57 GMT -5
HD-DVD was Toshiba, not Microsoft. Well with Microsoft spending money to obtain the HD-DVD exclusive rights from Dreamworks and even giving millions of dollars to Toshiba so Toshiba wouldn't pull the HD-DVD format earlier on, it sort of became a joint juncture between Toshiba and Microsoft.
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Post by The Line on Feb 16, 2008 15:24:13 GMT -5
What's the difference between the two formats? The main one is capacity. HD-DVD is about 15 GB for single layer, and BR is about 25GB for single layer. BR is read with a special laser(a blue one) which makes the disks pretty much unscratchable and whatnot. Its going to be awesome once TV studios start putting TV shows on Blu-Ray. A dual layer BR disk can hold about 6-times the amound of a standard DVD.
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Post by Maidpool w/ Cleaning Action on Feb 16, 2008 15:25:06 GMT -5
HD-DVD was Toshiba, not Microsoft. Well with Microsoft spending money to obtain the HD-DVD exclusive rights from Dreamworks and even giving millions of dollars to Toshiba so Toshiba wouldn't pull the HD-DVD format earlier on, it sort of became a joint juncture between Toshiba and Microsoft. While that is technically true, it was always Toshiba's baby... and working at the video store for the last 10 years and reading about it in the bussiness magazines before it ever came to be, I'll always consider it Toshiba's with Microsoft having a vested intrest in it. HD-DVD was Toshiba, not Microsoft. Toshiba and MS are bed-buddies. The Zune is a reskinned Gigabeat and MS has long been one of the principal supporters of the HD-DVD format, with Toshiba being at the forefront from the manufacturing side. I don't deny that they are bed-buddies. I'm just saying, it wasn't Microsofts invention or product. They had an intrest in it's survival, yes, but it wasn't theirs.
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Feb 16, 2008 15:27:27 GMT -5
Well with Microsoft spending money to obtain the HD-DVD exclusive rights from Dreamworks and even giving millions of dollars to Toshiba so Toshiba wouldn't pull the HD-DVD format earlier on, it sort of became a joint juncture between Toshiba and Microsoft. While that is technically true, it was always Toshiba's baby... and working at the video store for the last 10 years and reading about it in the bussiness magazines before it ever came to be, I'll always consider it Toshiba's with Microsoft having a vested intrest in it. True. Poor Toshiba, they can't seem to get a break aside from PCs and TVs....their disc formats fail, their MP3 players fail, everything they do outside of making new TVs and PCs fails.
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Post by Time Lord Soundwave on Feb 16, 2008 15:27:30 GMT -5
I hope this means I'll be able to buy Transformers on Blu-Ray now, after Dreamworks has to go crawling back to the format like Homer Simpson reapplying to the Power Plant.
"Seems like the classy thing to do is not call attention to it!"
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Post by Maidpool w/ Cleaning Action on Feb 16, 2008 15:29:19 GMT -5
While that is technically true, it was always Toshiba's baby... and working at the video store for the last 10 years and reading about it in the bussiness magazines before it ever came to be, I'll always consider it Toshiba's with Microsoft having a vested intrest in it. True. Poor Toshiba, they can't seem to get a break aside from PCs and TVs....their disc formats fail, their MP3 players fail, everything they do outside of making new TVs and PCs fails. At least they do well in some departments. Maybe one day they'll break out in another area.
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Post by willywonka666 on Feb 16, 2008 15:45:10 GMT -5
To me what's ironic is the quality of the home video format is better, but the quality of the stuff being put on there is not. it's all opinion I know, but just think that in awhile they'll put out a blu ray version of "celebrity fit club" or something
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Post by Mr. Backlund on Feb 16, 2008 16:11:52 GMT -5
To me what's ironic is the quality of the home video format is better, but the quality of the stuff being put on there is not. it's all opinion I know, but just think that in awhile they'll put out a blu ray version of "celebrity fit club" or something Same can be said for any format, though. For every masterpiece they remaster on compact disc, Kidz Bop releases another anthology of tone-deaf pre-pubescant brats singing hits from 6 months ago to instrumentals done by midis. I can go buy Blade Runner, 2001: A Space Odyssey, Close Encounters of the Third Kind and Into the Blue, starring Jessica Alba and that guy from 2 Fast 2 Furious, all on Blu-Ray.
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Post by Ace Diamond on Feb 16, 2008 16:17:56 GMT -5
As I said in a previous thread
"Wait...wait...wait...hmm...nope, thought I gave a crap for a second"
the only thing i could be arsed to do about this is come up with a Wal-Mart/Sony conspiracy to control the distribution of digital media
Then I remembered I don't shop at Wal-Mart and don't give Sony my money so it doesn't matter.
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Post by Mr. Backlund on Feb 16, 2008 16:22:42 GMT -5
As I said in a previous thread "Wait...wait...wait...hmm...nope, thought I gave a crap for a second" the only thing i could be arsed to do about this is come up with a Wal-Mart/Sony conspiracy to control the distribution of digital media Then I remembered I don't shop at Wal-Mart and don't give Sony my money so it doesn't matter. The actual conspiracy is MS funded HD-DVD through Toshiba to prevent Blu-Ray from consolidating the market by creating two competing formats and mis-information in the marketplace. When it became clear Blu-Ray would win, they kept funding Toshiba and HD-DVD to try and come out with their own method of digital distribution channel to skip the HD gen of home movies. Considering MS track record with quality, I think we should all be quite happy Blu-Ray won and MS isn't taking the forefront of digital downloads. That said, its nice you don't care, but you'll likely be the minority in the next 2-3 years.
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