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Post by thwak is T.hawk on Aug 3, 2008 17:37:12 GMT -5
ok so I finally got around to seeing it... aaaaaaaaaaand it was ok.
nothing special, nothing bad, just ok.
the film was certainly overhyped to all heaven though, and I can think of a couple of super hero movies that I liked better.
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Post by Parrish on Aug 3, 2008 17:42:54 GMT -5
Superman is in a funk because they refuse to make a movie with any other villains other than Lex Luthor.
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Post by Smokey McTrees on Aug 3, 2008 17:49:21 GMT -5
I thought he could bend the gun barrel because of the electromagnetic gimmickry in his gloves for the cape. This. They explain it.
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Post by thwak is T.hawk on Aug 3, 2008 18:02:31 GMT -5
Superman is in a funk because they refuse to make a movie with any other villains other than Lex Luthor. well that and they really like relaunching the series so many freaking times that no one cares about superman! that and none of the producers who handle superman really get what superman is. everyone gets batman because he's easier to figure out. someone who wants to solve the world's problems himself and tries the best he can while still having issues over the way he was brought up. that's simple. with superman no one understands his flaw because it's something that's hard to explain to execs and producers who control everything. superman's flaw is that he feels he's too powerful and is a danger to society so he tries to help out everyone as much as possible. trying to tell people of power that power is bad doesn't really work out that well.
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Post by HMARK Center on Aug 3, 2008 18:34:08 GMT -5
ok so I finally got around to seeing it... aaaaaaaaaaand it was ok. nothing special, nothing bad, just ok. the film was certainly overhyped to all heaven though, and I can think of a couple of super hero movies that I liked better. Blasphemy.
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Post by AFN: Judge Shred on Aug 3, 2008 18:52:46 GMT -5
ok so I finally got around to seeing it... aaaaaaaaaaand it was ok. nothing special, nothing bad, just ok. the film was certainly overhyped to all heaven though, and I can think of a couple of super hero movies that I liked better. I thought it was really good. But isn't my favorite superhero flick(that rests between Spider-man 2, X-men 2, Iron man and Daredevil DC). THis I like more as a film, less as a super hero flick.
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Post by thwak is T.hawk on Aug 3, 2008 18:56:02 GMT -5
ok so I finally got around to seeing it... aaaaaaaaaaand it was ok. nothing special, nothing bad, just ok. the film was certainly overhyped to all heaven though, and I can think of a couple of super hero movies that I liked better. I thought it was really good. But isn't my favorite superhero flick(that rests between Spider-man 2, X-men 2, Iron man and Daredevil DC). THis I like more as a film, less as a super hero flick. well you see, even as a film it was only ok to me.
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Post by HMARK Center on Aug 3, 2008 18:56:52 GMT -5
ok so I finally got around to seeing it... aaaaaaaaaaand it was ok. nothing special, nothing bad, just ok. the film was certainly overhyped to all heaven though, and I can think of a couple of super hero movies that I liked better. I thought it was really good. But isn't my favorite superhero flick(that rests between Spider-man 2, X-men 2, Iron man and Daredevil DC). THis I like more as a film, less as a super hero flick. I can see that argument. TDK wasn't really a superhero flick in any traditional sense of the phrase. As it's been said before, it was more crime drama and character study than anything else. To me, that's part of what made it superior to just about anything else that's ever been released as a comic book adaptation. No need to be hyper-stylized, etc., just pure storytelling, acting, and incredibly well-written characters. But I understand why some people would want to distinguish it from "superhero" movies.
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Post by AFN: Judge Shred on Aug 3, 2008 18:58:24 GMT -5
I thought it was really good. But isn't my favorite superhero flick(that rests between Spider-man 2, X-men 2, Iron man and Daredevil DC). THis I like more as a film, less as a super hero flick. well you see, even as a film it was only ok to me. I can totally understand that too. I can easily see why people wouldn't like it. And down the line I think people will lose a lot of that fresh car smell feeling and see its flaws. Like happened with the Burton Flicks and is happening wiht begins now that TDK pointed out how very flawed that movie was.
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Post by AFN: Judge Shred on Aug 3, 2008 18:59:38 GMT -5
I thought it was really good. But isn't my favorite superhero flick(that rests between Spider-man 2, X-men 2, Iron man and Daredevil DC). THis I like more as a film, less as a super hero flick. I can see that argument. TDK wasn't really a superhero flick in any traditional sense of the phrase. As it's been said before, it was more crime drama and character study than anything else. To me, that's part of what made it superior to just about anything else that's ever been released as a comic book adaptation. No need to be hyper-stylized, etc., just pure storytelling, acting, and incredibly well-written characters. But I understand why some people would want to distinguish it from "superhero" movies. I am glad you do, as the last place I brought that up I got flamed to holy hello kitty.
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Post by thwak is T.hawk on Aug 3, 2008 19:06:14 GMT -5
the funny thing is, this is really a film about harvey dent. the joker is just evil for the sake of being evil.
then again I didn't really think that this movie's joker was really the true sense of the joker but no one will ever agree with me on that.
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Post by AFN: Judge Shred on Aug 3, 2008 19:15:52 GMT -5
the funny thing is, this is really a film about harvey dent. the joker is just evil for the sake of being evil. then again I didn't really think that this movie's joker was really the true sense of the joker but no one will ever agree with me on that. Actually I agree fully. And Eckhart stole the show, I was more interested in what happened to him than anything. The Joker was a good movie Joker for this world. But my ultimate take is still the Animated series Joker. Who was creepy and evil. Dent was a deep, fully realized character. Joker was very shallow.
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Post by thwak is T.hawk on Aug 3, 2008 19:40:24 GMT -5
the funny thing is, this is really a film about harvey dent. the joker is just evil for the sake of being evil. then again I didn't really think that this movie's joker was really the true sense of the joker but no one will ever agree with me on that. Actually I agree fully. And Eckhart stole the show, I was more interested in what happened to him than anything. The Joker was a good movie Joker for this world. But my ultimate take is still the Animated series Joker. Who was creepy and evil. Dent was a deep, fully realized character. Joker was very shallow. I agree with you too on the animated series having the best joker. what annoyed me about this joker is that he didn't really seem to have fun in the crimes he was committing, he just seemed like he had to do it. which while it isn't bad, it just doesn't seem like it's the joker.
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Post by Solid Stryk-Dizzle on Aug 3, 2008 20:51:07 GMT -5
I'm gonna say it and people are probably gonna hate me for it but.
I think Superman 1 is a better movie than Dark Knight.
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Post by Solid Stryk-Dizzle on Aug 3, 2008 20:58:02 GMT -5
I'm gonna say it and people are probably gonna hate me for it but.
I think Superman 1 is a better movie than Dark Knight.
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Post by Maidpool w/ Cleaning Action on Aug 3, 2008 20:59:07 GMT -5
well you see, even as a film it was only ok to me. I can totally understand that too. I can easily see why people wouldn't like it. And down the line I think people will lose a lot of that fresh car smell feeling and see its flaws. Like happened with the Burton Flicks and is happening wiht begins now that TDK pointed out how very flawed that movie was. Uh, actually Begins DVD sales and IMDB rating has gone up since TDK came out. I still love Begins. Also, TDK wouldn't be able to do what it's doing without Begins. BB had to re-establish faith in the franchise and wipe the slate clean from B&R and BF.
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Post by AFN: Judge Shred on Aug 3, 2008 21:03:08 GMT -5
Ratings on websites and sales do not indicate anything when it comes to word of mouth. Of course dvd sales went up, it has been on sale for 5-8 bucks since before TDK came out. Hell I may buy it myself. Doesn't mean I think it is perfect.
But a whole lot of people I know and else where are accepting it wasn't so utterly perfect as they once stated.
Wadey, I like ya man, and respect ya. But damn that was one of your weakest arguments ever man!
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Post by Maidpool w/ Cleaning Action on Aug 3, 2008 21:08:21 GMT -5
Oh, I didn't know we were arguing about perfection. I thought you were saying people didn't like it anymore. My bad. I never thought it was perfect to begin with, though I did think it was the best Batman ever until that point. Now it's the 2nd best ever to me.
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Post by AFN: Judge Shred on Aug 3, 2008 21:15:48 GMT -5
Yeah see and that is cool. But when BB came out, so many people said "it was perfect, batman will never be better on the big screen" and when TDK hit they are saying "wow, this movie really points out Begin's flaws"
That is all i am saying. Not that it isn't good. Just that it was flawed and the fanboy goggles didn't let many see it till now. And I believe the same will happen with TDK down the line, as it does with damn near every movie ever.
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Post by paragon on Aug 3, 2008 21:17:26 GMT -5
what annoyed me about this joker is that he didn't really seem to have fun in the crimes he was committing, he just seemed like he had to do it. Not even when he was driving the semi down the street saying how much he loved his job? But I thought he always seemed to be enjoying himself.
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