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Post by biafra on Dec 9, 2008 18:32:31 GMT -5
I guess they won those first two wins Steve was suspended by magic then. Honestly man..I watch the games' De angelo is THE most important offensive factor as far as wins go this year. John beason is his counterpart on defense..both are team MVP's this year. No, they won it because they are a good team. They just don't need Williams. He is a good player on a team full of good players. One reason he's not getting major attention is the rest of the team around him is so good that he just doesn't stand out(unless you look at his stats, and most football fans don't). He'd be more famous to the common football folk if he was on a team that either isn't as good as the Panthers or a team that really needs a running back. What is around him has nothing to do with how well he has played in comparison to the other running backs in the league. I mean...when The Cowboys had Aikman, Irvin, Smith, and Johnston they probably didn't NEED Jay Novececk but he was still one of the best players at his position and a perenial Pro Bowler. I don't see your logic here.
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Post by ani on Dec 9, 2008 18:34:45 GMT -5
Anyone hear Joey Porter's comments? He's really lost it this time. What he say this time? Something to the effect of "Well he's gotta carry a gun because Sean Taylor didn't have one to fire back at the ones who killed him"
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Dec 9, 2008 18:39:58 GMT -5
No, they won it because they are a good team. They just don't need Williams. He is a good player on a team full of good players. One reason he's not getting major attention is the rest of the team around him is so good that he just doesn't stand out(unless you look at his stats, and most football fans don't). He'd be more famous to the common football folk if he was on a team that either isn't as good as the Panthers or a team that really needs a running back. What is around him has nothing to do with how well he has played in comparison to the other running backs in the league. I mean...when The Cowboys had Aikman, Irvin, Smith, and Johnston they probably didn't NEED Jay Novececk but he was still one of the best players at his position and a perenial Pro Bowler. I don't see your logic here. Fine how about this? You guys vote for whoever you want, vote for Williams, I voted for Barber, Jacobs, and Westbrook. Ok? I would've voted for Williams if we could either vote for 4 running backs or if he was in the AFC, but we can't and he wasn't, so there. It is nothing but opinions, and I favor these guys more than Williams. Actually we wouldn't even be having this discussion if Deadpool didn't bring up Williams' stats. I don't know why he did to be honest.
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Post by biafra on Dec 9, 2008 18:44:08 GMT -5
What is around him has nothing to do with how well he has played in comparison to the other running backs in the league. I mean...when The Cowboys had Aikman, Irvin, Smith, and Johnston they probably didn't NEED Jay Novececk but he was still one of the best players at his position and a perenial Pro Bowler. I don't see your logic here. Fine how about this? You guys vote for whoever you want, vote for Williams, I voted for Barber, Jacobs, and Westbrook. Ok? I would've voted for Williams if we could either vote for 4 running backs or if he was in the AFC, but we can't and he wasn't, so there. It is nothing but opinions, and I favor these guys more than Williams. Actually we wouldn't even be having this discussion if Deadpool didn't bring up Williams' stats. I don't know why he did to be honest. To.....make his case about Williams being an elite back having a Pro Bowl worthy year?
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Dec 9, 2008 18:46:09 GMT -5
Fine how about this? You guys vote for whoever you want, vote for Williams, I voted for Barber, Jacobs, and Westbrook. Ok? I would've voted for Williams if we could either vote for 4 running backs or if he was in the AFC, but we can't and he wasn't, so there. It is nothing but opinions, and I favor these guys more than Williams. Actually we wouldn't even be having this discussion if Deadpool didn't bring up Williams' stats. I don't know why he did to be honest. To.....make his case about Williams being an elite back having a Pro Bowl worthy year? Yeah, but why? It wasn't going to change my opinion. I already voted, so basically it was a waste of time.
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Post by biafra on Dec 9, 2008 18:52:12 GMT -5
Maybe in the hopes that someone else can see this thread and see the light.
Go now, Lost Cause..peace be with you and God help your non D-Will loving soul...
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Dec 9, 2008 18:55:39 GMT -5
I would've voted for Jesus Williams if there was more voting spaces. I mean I also left Adrian Peterson off, and we all know how well he is doing.
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Post by Maidpool w/ Cleaning Action on Dec 9, 2008 18:55:49 GMT -5
New York Giants' home game against the Carolina Panthers in Week 16 has been moved to Sunday Night Football on NBC, giving the Giants two SNF games in a row. It may be a big one to, as the number one seed in the NFC may be on the line.
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Post by biafra on Dec 9, 2008 18:56:31 GMT -5
I would've voted for Jesus Williams if there was more voting spaces. I mean I also left Adrian Peterson off, and we all know how well he is doing. His name is De angelo. In case you want to change your vote.
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Post by andrew8798 on Dec 9, 2008 18:56:32 GMT -5
Thursday Night Game New Orleans at Chicago
Early Tampa Bay at Atlanta Washington at Cincinnati Tennessee at Houston Detroit at Indianapolis Green Bay at Jacksonville San Diego at Kansas City San Francisco at Miami Buffalo at N.Y. Jets Seattle at St. Louis
Late Minnesota at Arizona New England at Oakland Pittsburgh at Baltimore Denver at Carolina
Sunday Night Game N.Y. Giants at Dallas
Monday Night Game Cleveland at Philadelphia
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Dec 9, 2008 18:57:23 GMT -5
New York Giants' home game against the Carolina Panthers in Week 16 has been moved to Sunday Night Football on NBC, giving the Giants two SNF games in a row. It may be a big one to, as the number one seed in the NFC may be on the line. It'll be a good game that is for sure. Can the Giants' D slow down the tandem of Stewart & Williams? We'll see. And I do mean slow down. There is no way they can stop them, just slow them.
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Dec 9, 2008 18:58:24 GMT -5
I would've voted for Jesus Williams if there was more voting spaces. I mean I also left Adrian Peterson off, and we all know how well he is doing. His name is De angelo. In case you want to change your vote. You're talking about him like he's the savior of the Panthers and the NFL, thusly, Jesus Williams(and he has Angel in his first name to begin with).
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Post by andrew8798 on Dec 9, 2008 18:58:49 GMT -5
The South Florida Sun Sentinel reports the Ravens have signed RB Jalen Parmele from the Dolphins practice squad.
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Post by andrew8798 on Dec 9, 2008 18:59:51 GMT -5
The NFL has upheld the three-game suspension of Matt Jones. He won't play again this season.
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Post by biafra on Dec 9, 2008 19:00:16 GMT -5
On a serious note, everyone is guilty of not giving the Panthers O line the credit they deserve for their part in what's become the most powerful and balanced offense in team history.
Yes..Williams and Stewart are terrific at breaking tackles but more often than not those boys are in the secondary in the blink of an eye because they have holes big enough to drive trucks through.
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Post by The Genesis of KoOS on Dec 9, 2008 19:01:34 GMT -5
Fine how about this? You guys vote for whoever you want, vote for Williams, I voted for Barber, Jacobs, and Westbrook. Ok? I would've voted for Williams if we could either vote for 4 running backs or if he was in the AFC, but we can't and he wasn't, so there. It is nothing but opinions, and I favor these guys more than Williams. Actually we wouldn't even be having this discussion if Deadpool didn't bring up Williams' stats. I don't know why he did to be honest. To.....make his case about Williams being an elite back having a Pro Bowl worthy year? I think he deserves to be the Pro Bowl, but I voted for Adrian Peterson, Michael Turner, and Brandon Jacobs.
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Dec 9, 2008 19:04:25 GMT -5
On a serious note, everyone is guilty of not giving the Panthers O line the credit they deserve for their part in what's become the most powerful and balanced offense in team history. Yes..Williams and Stewart are terrific at breaking tackles but more often than not those boys are in the secondary in the blink of an eye because they have holes big enough to drive trucks through. I agree. I mean I did vote for a few Panthers' O-line guys(can't remember their names right now). To me, the foundation of a good offense starts in the trenches. If a team's O-line sucks, most of the time their entire offense sucks. Without a good O-line the QB can't get good protection and the running game is almost non-existent.
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Post by andrew8798 on Dec 9, 2008 20:14:47 GMT -5
Jets waived RB Marcus Mason.
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Post by andrew8798 on Dec 9, 2008 20:14:56 GMT -5
According to ProFootballTalk, Najeh Davenport has signed with the Colts.
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Post by andrew8798 on Dec 9, 2008 20:15:04 GMT -5
Broncos waived FS Calvin Lowry.
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