Red Lion
Dennis Stamp
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Post by Red Lion on Oct 4, 2008 18:27:06 GMT -5
maybe they can't hear it for the crowd yelling? Kayfabe wise,that is a good point. But surely laid out on the floor,you would feel the ring moving when he stamps his foot? Indeed, and the fact that the crowd sometimes actually count with each stomp of the foot (for whatever reason). I hate the well timed one-wrestler-jumping-out-of-the-ring-onto-his-opponent-outside-which-lays-them-both-out-as-we-cut-to-a-commercial-break spot.
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Post by TromboneMan on Oct 4, 2008 22:09:05 GMT -5
I hate that during a match, while one wrestler is in charge, it will cut to a commerical brake. When we get back, the other person/tag team/whatever will be the ones winning. And here's a quick clip for what happened during the brake that turned the tide.
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Post by makavelithadon on Oct 6, 2008 1:24:29 GMT -5
Rey Mysterio's opponents always conveniently making their way into the ropes for the 619. Agreed. I hate that.
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Post by funkycoldmadina on Oct 6, 2008 2:28:01 GMT -5
Spinaroonie. I seriously hate that spot. Also, after the millionth time of Hogan hulking up, taking a shot, pointing the finger, blocking another shot, returning 2-3 shots, whipping somone into the ropes for the big boot and the leg drop for years on end, it got old. Any spot that took away from the spontaneity of the match. Such as Bret Hart's pre Sharpshooter diving elbow or HBK's top rope elbow before SCM. It just told you everytime what they were about to try, and while it does serve to create buildup for the move, I just prefer to be shrouded in mystery about when it's going to occur.
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Post by BoilerRoomBrawler on Oct 6, 2008 10:14:15 GMT -5
I agree that a match should be shrouded in mystery and that move-sets should be multi-dimensional but I fear that it doesn't happen a lot because it's less marketable.
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Post by spaceship on Oct 6, 2008 13:43:43 GMT -5
Missed dropkicks. They always land on their back. They land on their side if they connect with it. They should land on their side either way. It makes no sense. There's also a lot of moves out there that look really cool, but in reality, shouldn't be worse than a bodyslam. It's actually a lot safer to take the flat back bump off the missile dropkick ala Dynamite Kid or Owen Hart back in the day because you avoid the risk of landing wrong and blowing out a knee or breaking an arm or something. I fugured that, but it makes no sense in kayfabe.
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darthalexander
Hank Scorpio
I have a feeling I may end up getting banned soon.
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Post by darthalexander on Oct 6, 2008 15:27:05 GMT -5
Kayfabe:
Say you're the heel and you're currently kicking the hell out of your opponent. You're getting tons of boos and nasty comments. All of a sudden, everyone in the arena looks left and start to cheer. Wouldn't you suspect that maybe there's a threat behind you coming your way? How hard is it to miss 15,000 faces all turning left? Wouldn't you get a little bit suspicious? Why would you stand there like a dummy until you get smashed from behind?
This was mentioned before, but the whole "Ref has a glass jaw" can get annoying. I'd love to see a ref give lip back or slap back. You only see this when it's a "special guest referee".
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Mac
Bill S. Preston, Esq.
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Post by Mac on Oct 6, 2008 15:31:27 GMT -5
Not sure if its been said yet and I dont wanna read through 150+ posts again but...
I hate the "New" table spots where a guy is about to put someone through a table, but takes the time to remove the monitors and clear the debris off the table before trying to put his opponent through.
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Post by Nacho STAYS Hyped on Oct 6, 2008 15:33:21 GMT -5
It baffles me as to why HHH hasn't figured out by now NOT TO TRY A PEDIGREE NEAR THE ROPES Why? No one ever figured out to never try and powerbomb Kidman, so why is that such a stretch? Why did Honky Tonk Man always try the "Shake Rattle and Roll" by the ropes? Why do the commentators always think Matt Hardy is going to win after he hits the Side Effect, which is always a two count?
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Post by Boy And His Machine Gun on Oct 6, 2008 17:22:25 GMT -5
The hot tag. Hate it. Hate. Hate. Hate.
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Hiroshi Hase
Patti Mayonnaise
The Good Ol' Days
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Oct 6, 2008 17:25:51 GMT -5
Spinaroonie. I seriously hate that spot. Also, after the millionth time of Hogan hulking up, taking a shot, pointing the finger, blocking another shot, returning 2-3 shots, whipping somone into the ropes for the big boot and the leg drop for years on end, it got old. Any spot that took away from the spontaneity of the match. Such as Bret Hart's pre Sharpshooter diving elbow or HBK's top rope elbow before SCM. It just told you everytime what they were about to try, and while it does serve to create buildup for the move, I just prefer to be shrouded in mystery about when it's going to occur. Maybe it is, but you said it yourself it's there to create the buildup for the move, so the fans have something to anticipate.
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chairshotshurthead
ALF
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Post by chairshotshurthead on Oct 6, 2008 19:21:58 GMT -5
It's actually a lot safer to take the flat back bump off the missile dropkick ala Dynamite Kid or Owen Hart back in the day because you avoid the risk of landing wrong and blowing out a knee or breaking an arm or something. I fugured that, but it makes no sense in kayfabe. What's kayfabe got to do with it at all?
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Post by drjayphd (feat. Pitbull) on Oct 6, 2008 22:48:47 GMT -5
Kayfabe: Say you're the heel and you're currently kicking the hell out of your opponent. You're getting tons of boos and nasty comments. All of a sudden, everyone in the arena looks left and start to cheer. Wouldn't you suspect that maybe there's a threat behind you coming your way? How hard is it to miss 15,000 faces all turning left? Wouldn't you get a little bit suspicious? Why would you stand there like a dummy until you get smashed from behind? This was mentioned before, but the whole "Ref has a glass jaw" can get annoying. I'd love to see a ref give lip back or slap back. You only see this when it's a "special guest referee". Or Earl Hebner reffing a HHH match, which is just beer-battered awesome.
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Post by spaceship on Oct 6, 2008 23:06:09 GMT -5
I fugured that, but it makes no sense in kayfabe. What's kayfabe got to do with it at all? I mean, I understand they land on their back to avoid injury, but in kayfabe terms, it makes no sense, because they should lbe landing on their side always, when attemping a dropkick.
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Post by wrestledelaneya on Oct 7, 2008 2:53:29 GMT -5
Its not so much a spot... but I hate when the heel has been wearing down the face with bog standard offense then goes for the pin. The face kicks out and the heel starts to look incredibly frustrated prompting the announcers to ask "What does this man have to do to put his opponent away?" The problem is, he hasn't even gone for his finishing move yet. So you would think, why would he even bother to get frustrated if he still has his main weapon?!
Nonsense.
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chairshotshurthead
ALF
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Post by chairshotshurthead on Oct 7, 2008 3:52:07 GMT -5
What's kayfabe got to do with it at all? I mean, I understand they land on their back to avoid injury, but in kayfabe terms, it makes no sense, because they should lbe landing on their side always, when attemping a dropkick. And they should be landing on their side for what reason? I'm just not understanding your point here. What do you mean by 'in kayfabe' they should be landing on their side? They land the way they land. And from a physics standpoint, it's more likely that in execution of a dropkick you twist your body in mid-air to take a front bump or you just avoid the whole thing by doing the front dropkick and take the back bump. And, of course, that's the way they probably prefer to bump because there's less risk of injury anyway, so I don't quite get where you're coming from with this.
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Post by hawkfan44 on Oct 7, 2008 6:33:01 GMT -5
whenever two people who are feuding for the WWE or World title, don't trust each other one bit but somehow manage to win the tag team titles (think Batista/Cena a few months back), despite not liking each other. how many times to they have to rehash that storyline?
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BrianZane
Team Rocket
The Finest Fibers All The Way From France
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Post by BrianZane on Oct 7, 2008 6:44:09 GMT -5
Finishers "out of nowhere", which take more than one second to set up. Monkey flips are retarded too. I used to think so as well, until I saw John Morrison's selling of a monkey flip at the dark match for No Mercy the other night. He kept flipping and landed on his stomach...I never saw such a great bump for such a basic move in my life.
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Lionheart
AC Slater
Let there be a bloodbath...
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Post by Lionheart on Oct 7, 2008 11:52:32 GMT -5
See-saw spots in ladder matches.
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Post by Cactus Jack on Oct 7, 2008 14:17:46 GMT -5
Not sure if its been said yet and I dont wanna read through 150+ posts again but... I hate the "New" table spots where a guy is about to put someone through a table, but takes the time to remove the monitors and clear the debris off the table before trying to put his opponent through. Nothing new about that, man.
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