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Post by Brandon Walsh is Insane. on Feb 2, 2009 16:12:55 GMT -5
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Post by andrew8798 on Feb 2, 2009 16:18:18 GMT -5
From the last thread
Cubs acquired outfielder Richie Robnett and infielder Justin Sellers from the Athletics for RHP Michael Wuertz.
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Feb 2, 2009 16:35:30 GMT -5
So what are the odds of the Rangers pulling an amazing year like the Rays did last year? And don't sugar coat it, plz.
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Post by Insomniac on Feb 2, 2009 16:37:11 GMT -5
So what are the odds of the Rangers pulling an amazing year like the Rays did last year? And don't sugar coat it, plz. No pitching = No chance. |
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Feb 2, 2009 16:41:18 GMT -5
So what are the odds of the Rangers pulling an amazing year like the Rays did last year? And don't sugar coat it, plz. No pitching = No chance. It just doesn't add up, how the hell can a team with one of the best minor league teams(Oklahoma City Redhawks) suck so damn badly? |
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Post by The Line on Feb 2, 2009 16:42:45 GMT -5
It just doesn't add up, how the hell can a team with one of the best minor league teams(Oklahoma City Redhawks) suck so damn badly? Terrible Front Office(and as a Mariner's fan, it takes one to know one). |
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Post by Insomniac on Feb 2, 2009 16:43:27 GMT -5
It just doesn't add up, how the hell can a team with one of the best minor league teams(Oklahoma City Redhawks) suck so damn badly? Well until that Minor League talent gets moved up to the next level, they're stuck in last place. Kinda like Tampa. Just hope that all that young pitching I keep hearing about actually turns into something. |
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Feb 2, 2009 16:44:57 GMT -5
It just doesn't add up, how the hell can a team with one of the best minor league teams(Oklahoma City Redhawks) suck so damn badly? Terrible Front Office(and as a Mariner's fan, it takes one to know one). Speaking of which, you guys better show your appreciation for the Mariners, otherwise Big Bad Clay Bennett might just come along, buy them up, and move them to Oklahoma City as well.  |
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Post by The Line on Feb 2, 2009 16:48:55 GMT -5
Terrible Front Office(and as a Mariner's fan, it takes one to know one). Speaking of which, you guys better show your appreciation for the Mariners, otherwise Big Bad Clay Bennett might just come along, buy them up, and move them to Oklahoma City as well. That will NEVER happen. The Mariners have been threatened with relocation more than once, and every time, the fans come through. Even through terrible years, attendance is still pretty high. And a main reason why the Sonics left wasn't the fans, but rather the arena. Key Arena is old. Safeco Field is a state of the art ball-park, and will be for years. |
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Post by H-Fist on Feb 2, 2009 16:53:36 GMT -5
So the Cubs continue to unload the failed prospects from their system in exchange for new blood. If nothing else, it does mean a lot symbolically that the front office cares more about winning than holding out hope on the guys who just don't have it.
As much as I loved Rich Hill coming into 2007, when he had a good rookie year, he just never found the third pitch and struggled to put the two he had over the plate. Wuertz is sort of a poor man's Farnsworth. He can throw hard, but loves his slider too much and has too little movement on his fastball to do damage with it.
I heard about the Wuertz trade, and was really crossing my fingers that the guy's name was Richie Rob Nett as opposed to Richie Robnett. I'm a bit disappointed.
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Feb 2, 2009 16:54:27 GMT -5
Speaking of which, you guys better show your appreciation for the Mariners, otherwise Big Bad Clay Bennett might just come along, buy them up, and move them to Oklahoma City as well. That will NEVER happen. The Mariners have been threatened with relocation more than once, and every time, the fans come through. Even through terrible years, attendance is still pretty high. And a main reason why the Sonics left wasn't the fans, but rather the arena. Key Arena is old. Safeco Field is a state of the art ball-park, and will be for years. Actually to be precise why the Sonics left was because the city refused to build a new state of the art arena for them. And I can understand why the Sonics would move cause of that. Both the Mariners and Seahawks got awesome playing fields, but the Sonics won't? It was a logical choice. But back to baseball. We all know there is going to be that one break out team that no one expected(happens every year), so what team will that be? |
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Post by Insomniac on Feb 2, 2009 16:55:26 GMT -5
That will NEVER happen. The Mariners have been threatened with relocation more than once, and every time, the fans come through. Even through terrible years, attendance is still pretty high. And a main reason why the Sonics left wasn't the fans, but rather the arena. Key Arena is old. Safeco Field is a state of the art ball-park, and will be for years. Actually, I'm looking at the attendance numbers for Seattle the last few years, and it's nothing impressive. From 2001-2003 (and possible earlier; I don't have numbers for anything before '01), they were right at the top of baseball. But from 2004 onward, it's been a significant drop: 2001-2003: 40,000+ 2004: 36,000 2005: 33,600 2006: 30,600 2007: 33,000 2008: 28,700 But they did just build a nice, new stadium, so I doubt they go anywhere. We all know there is going to be that one break out team that no one expected(happens every year), so what team will that be? Oakland, Cleveland, or San Francisco. All improved from last year. |
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Post by ani on Feb 2, 2009 17:01:42 GMT -5
Really like the Ollie deal. Not his biggest fan but 3/36 is not that much.
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Post by KStrick on Feb 2, 2009 17:54:37 GMT -5
There's 2 teams I am keeping my eyes on so far. Oddly enough, Seattle has made a lot of smart deals, and while I don't think they'd be in contention in a credible league, I think they'll do very well in the cellar that is the West (I only say that because BOTH AL and NL West are basically jokes these past few seasons). The other, however, WAS going to be Kansas City, until I read up on how they traded away their best feature last season, relief pitching. Problem with relief pitching, however, is that there is no such thing as consistency, it's almost always 1 season good, a few seasons bad. There are few exceptions to the rule (Rafael Perez, for example  ) Cleveland will do VERY well next season, if not for the aquisitions of DeRosa, Joe Smith (shut up, I like sidearm guys!) and Wood, but Asdrubal is due for another late season streak, Barfield needs to prove his mettle (and, unlike Marte, I truly believe he will), and the low-risk-high-reward for Pavano. Plus, being an "odd" season, Cleveland's pitching will be simply unhittable. Plus, I think Ben Francisco is due a breakout season. With an outfield of that, Sizemore (overall the best CF in the game today) and Shin Soo Chu (with a name that awesome, he has to be good), Cleveland has a great outfield... and all without Franklyn Gutierrez to suck it up. If Cliff Lee can keep up, Pavano being a potentially great investment, and Westbrook due back midseason sometime, Cleveland will have a very good rotation, and I think Fausto Carmona is due his Cy Young season.... so we can have a three-peat. The only question marks are how will DeRosa do back in the AL, can Kobayashi wind up proving himself in his contract year, and how many "The Indians name is racist and hateful" people will show up to opening game this year? All in all, the AL Central and AL East will remain the hottest divisions in the league (Moreso for Tampa's follow-up, Boston gaining nothing but losing almost less, New York with the new stadium and look, and Cleveland, Chicago, and Minnesota fighting for dominance). The other divisions are the real question marks... |
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Post by The Line on Feb 2, 2009 17:56:21 GMT -5
That will NEVER happen. The Mariners have been threatened with relocation more than once, and every time, the fans come through. Even through terrible years, attendance is still pretty high. And a main reason why the Sonics left wasn't the fans, but rather the arena. Key Arena is old. Safeco Field is a state of the art ball-park, and will be for years. Actually, I'm looking at the attendance numbers for Seattle the last few years, and it's nothing impressive. From 2001-2003 (and possible earlier; I don't have numbers for anything before '01), they were right at the top of baseball. But from 2004 onward, it's been a significant drop: 2001-2003: 40,000+ 2004: 36,000 2005: 33,600 2006: 30,600 2007: 33,000 2008: 28,700 But they did just build a nice, new stadium, so I doubt they go anywhere. We all know there is going to be that one break out team that no one expected(happens every year), so what team will that be? Oakland, Cleveland, or San Francisco. All improved from last year. I didn't know about the last few years, but I an assure that before 01, Seattle would consistantly have one of the higher sell-out rates in baseball. |
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Post by i.Sarita.com on Feb 2, 2009 18:12:53 GMT -5
There's 2 teams I am keeping my eyes on so far. Oddly enough, Seattle has made a lot of smart deals, and while I don't think they'd be in contention in a credible league, I think they'll do very well in the cellar that is the West (I only say that because BOTH AL and NL West are basically jokes these past few seasons). The other, however, WAS going to be Kansas City, until I read up on how they traded away their best feature last season, relief pitching. Problem with relief pitching, however, is that there is no such thing as consistency, it's almost always 1 season good, a few seasons bad. There are few exceptions to the rule (Rafael Perez, for example ) Cleveland will do VERY well next season, if not for the aquisitions of DeRosa, Joe Smith (shut up, I like sidearm guys!) and Wood, but Asdrubal is due for another late season streak, Barfield needs to prove his mettle (and, unlike Marte, I truly believe he will), and the low-risk-high-reward for Pavano. Plus, being an "odd" season, Cleveland's pitching will be simply unhittable. Plus, I think Ben Francisco is due a breakout season. With an outfield of that, Sizemore (overall the best CF in the game today) and Shin Soo Chu (with a name that awesome, he has to be good), Cleveland has a great outfield... and all without Franklyn Gutierrez to suck it up. If Cliff Lee can keep up, Pavano being a potentially great investment, and Westbrook due back midseason sometime, Cleveland will have a very good rotation, and I think Fausto Carmona is due his Cy Young season.... so we can have a three-peat. The only question marks are how will DeRosa do back in the AL, can Kobayashi wind up proving himself in his contract year, and how many "The Indians name is racist and hateful" people will show up to opening game this year? All in all, the AL Central and AL East will remain the hottest divisions in the league (Moreso for Tampa's follow-up, Boston gaining nothing but losing almost less, New York with the new stadium and look, and Cleveland, Chicago, and Minnesota fighting for dominance). The other divisions are the real question marks... Oh little Indians fan. So optimistic. |
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Post by KStrick on Feb 2, 2009 20:23:21 GMT -5
There's 2 teams I am keeping my eyes on so far. Oddly enough, Seattle has made a lot of smart deals, and while I don't think they'd be in contention in a credible league, I think they'll do very well in the cellar that is the West (I only say that because BOTH AL and NL West are basically jokes these past few seasons). The other, however, WAS going to be Kansas City, until I read up on how they traded away their best feature last season, relief pitching. Problem with relief pitching, however, is that there is no such thing as consistency, it's almost always 1 season good, a few seasons bad. There are few exceptions to the rule (Rafael Perez, for example ) Cleveland will do VERY well next season, if not for the aquisitions of DeRosa, Joe Smith (shut up, I like sidearm guys!) and Wood, but Asdrubal is due for another late season streak, Barfield needs to prove his mettle (and, unlike Marte, I truly believe he will), and the low-risk-high-reward for Pavano. Plus, being an "odd" season, Cleveland's pitching will be simply unhittable. Plus, I think Ben Francisco is due a breakout season. With an outfield of that, Sizemore (overall the best CF in the game today) and Shin Soo Chu (with a name that awesome, he has to be good), Cleveland has a great outfield... and all without Franklyn Gutierrez to suck it up. If Cliff Lee can keep up, Pavano being a potentially great investment, and Westbrook due back midseason sometime, Cleveland will have a very good rotation, and I think Fausto Carmona is due his Cy Young season.... so we can have a three-peat. The only question marks are how will DeRosa do back in the AL, can Kobayashi wind up proving himself in his contract year, and how many "The Indians name is racist and hateful" people will show up to opening game this year? All in all, the AL Central and AL East will remain the hottest divisions in the league (Moreso for Tampa's follow-up, Boston gaining nothing but losing almost less, New York with the new stadium and look, and Cleveland, Chicago, and Minnesota fighting for dominance). The other divisions are the real question marks... Oh little Indians fan. So optimistic.  |
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Post by ani on Feb 2, 2009 20:27:46 GMT -5
Oh little Indians fan. So optimistic. Hey, the Cubs are the NL Central version of the Indians. I wouldn't talk. |
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Post by KStrick on Feb 2, 2009 20:29:32 GMT -5
Oh little Indians fan. So optimistic. Hey, the Cubs are the NL Central version of the Indians. I wouldn't talk. HEY! We won the World Series 61 years ago, thank you very much... |
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Post by ani on Feb 2, 2009 20:32:30 GMT -5
Hey, the Cubs are the NL Central version of the Indians. I wouldn't talk. HEY! We won the World Series 61 years ago, thank you very much... Indians=Someone's grandpa who kind's and patient. Cubs=Someone's deranged Great-Grandfather who keeps asking about "when the squirrels are coming to take over the Earth" |
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