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Post by sunwukong on Jul 24, 2009 23:44:53 GMT -5
For anyone so upset that being "The Nice Guy" isn't getting you anywhere, maybe you should follow a different example...
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Post by Mozenrath on Jul 25, 2009 0:33:46 GMT -5
Because you're going after the wrong kind of girl, probably.
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Post by Johnny Danger (Godz) on Jul 25, 2009 1:17:17 GMT -5
For anyone so upset that being "The Nice Guy" isn't getting you anywhere, maybe you should follow a different example... Bonus points if during a potential sexual encounter, you point down at your junk and say "Ey yo, chica. If something happen to dis....something happen....to you."
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Post by Nacho STAYS Hyped on Jul 25, 2009 1:19:25 GMT -5
Nice guys always finish last.
But bad asses always kick assholes ass.
Keep that in mind, lad.
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Post by Johnny Danger (Godz) on Jul 25, 2009 1:20:31 GMT -5
Nice guys always finish last. But bad asses always kick assholes ass. Keep that in mind, lad. .......where have I heard that before?
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Post by Mozenrath on Jul 25, 2009 1:20:35 GMT -5
Nice guys finish last because assholes finish, and call it a night.
Thank you, I'll be here all week.
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Post by mrwednesdaynight on Jul 25, 2009 1:23:11 GMT -5
I really don't get some of these arguments for why girls don't like nice guys. "There's no challenge, there's no mystery, their predictable." Ok, I don't EVER want to hear from a woman complaining that they got cheated on. Bet that wasn't predictable. Lot's of mystery there, like you keep wondering why he ran around on you with your sister! Where all that mystery and unpredictablity gets you is bailing him out of jail in the middle of the night. It gets you stuck as a single mother while he goes into hiding or worse, prison. As for nice guys being doormats, then I don't want to hear women complain that their men don't respect them or do anything for them. If you get beaten up or just walked all over by some jerk, don't whine. You didn't want a guy who would think highly of you or hold you up on high or show you too much respect. I swear, I think women today just like having something to complain about and thats why they pick the absolute worst out of the bunch. They watch Oprah and see how glamourous it is to be a victim and they want to be a victim too. No one feels sorry for a happy person. No one give undivided attention and sympathy to someone who is well adjusted and in a stable situation.
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Jul 25, 2009 1:25:47 GMT -5
What I noticed over time is girls want to date and f*** douches or guys with a little wit/sarcastic edge to them, but when they want to marry, that is when they settle for the nice guys, cause, let's be honest, not many marriages with a douche last that long. Neither does ones with nice guys, but they tend to last maybe a year or so longer.
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Post by sunwukong on Jul 25, 2009 1:29:10 GMT -5
I really don't get some of these arguments for why girls don't like nice guys. "There's no challenge, there's no mystery, their predictable." Ok, I don't EVER want to hear from a woman complaining that they got cheated on. Bet that wasn't predictable. Lot's of mystery there, like you keep wondering why he ran around on you with your sister! Where all that mystery and unpredictablity gets you is bailing him out of jail in the middle of the night. It gets you stuck as a single mother while he goes into hiding or worse, prison. As for nice guys being doormats, then I don't want to hear women complain that their men don't respect them or do anything for them. If you get beaten up or just walked all over by some jerk, don't whine. You didn't want a guy who would think highly of you or hold you up on high or show you too much respect. I swear, I think women today just like having something to complain about and thats why they pick the absolute worst out of the bunch. They watch Oprah and see how glamourous it is to be a victim and they want to be a victim too. No one feels sorry for a happy person. No one give undivided attention and sympathy to someone who is well adjusted and in a stable situation. The "blame the women, it's all their fault that I can't get a date!" approach. A time tested classic. Sigh. I honestly think a lot of the problem is a total lack of emotional maturity. Look in the mirror, guys. It could help.
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Post by AriadosMan on Jul 25, 2009 1:34:04 GMT -5
The "blame the women, it's all their fault that I can't get a date!" approach. A time tested classic. Sigh. I honestly think a lot of the problem is a total lack of emotional maturity. Look in the mirror, guys. It could help. Because today's women are somehow vastly emotionally superior to us? The emotional maturity argument cuts both ways.
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Jul 25, 2009 1:34:06 GMT -5
Or maybe you're just not as nice as you think you are.
It's good to consider all sides.
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Post by Cyno on Jul 25, 2009 1:50:46 GMT -5
It's not that girls beyond a high school level don't go for nice guys. Ultimately, they want someone that will treat them with respect. The thing is that girls want a man with confidence, assertiveness, a personality, and most importantly, someone that will treat them like an equal. Many "nice guys" are passive, gelatinous blobs and parasites </jericho> who go out of their way to put the girl of their desires on a pedestal. Whether they're aware of it or not (most of the time they're not doing it intentionally), they're objectifying the woman of their dreams into some kind of goddess. That shows zero respect towards the woman, and let's face it: if the girl in question actually likes this s***, she probably isn't worth the effort anyway.
It's far too common a mistake that "nice guys" think that women only go for complete douchebags when they're right there. Because they really don't.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2009 1:55:56 GMT -5
'You see, what your problem is is that you're putting the pussy on a pedestal"
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Post by Dirty Hazy on Jul 25, 2009 2:05:51 GMT -5
girls like nice guys, but only after being with a dink.
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Post by Jon The Joker on Jul 25, 2009 2:06:54 GMT -5
You need to listen to this pimp. Warning language for the kiddies
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Post by Mozenrath on Jul 25, 2009 2:10:23 GMT -5
I think it's not so much being nice as being eager. If you are not out on the prowl, it helps. I think that's part of why women are attracted to men who are already committed.
Focus on having a rewarding life already, and then they will be more interested. If you're miserable, misery loves company, but failure has no friends.
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Post by Brandon Walsh is Insane. on Jul 25, 2009 2:25:07 GMT -5
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Post by HMARK Center on Jul 25, 2009 2:35:09 GMT -5
Guys have to learn that women are our equals in so many ways, including our flaws.
You know what? Guys get a lot of flack for being "superficial" and caring too much about looks. Guess what, fellas? Women are exactly the same, and don't let anyone try to tell you differently. It's not that they don't care about anything else, but they're human, and humans first have to be physically attracted to somebody before they'll want to do anything with them.
Now some girls, sadly, have very low self esteem, and those girls sometimes tie themselves down with a jerk or whatever because they're convinced they don't deserve any better or something (guys are not immune to this, either, on the other side), or feel they CAN'T do any better. That's a different story, and a dangerous one, at that, but it's not the majority of cases, not by a long shot.
A lot of the good pointers have already been given out, but to reiterate: don't be a friggin' doormat who bends over backwards for the girl and listens to her EVERY time she "needs a shoulder to lean on". Don't be afraid to joke around with a girl or bust her chops, it makes her feel like you're actually talking to her as a friend and peer, not as some ideal.
Do be polite, do be a good listener, but do also BE YOURSELF. Every guy, no matter how successful with the ladies, has gone through a phase at some point where he's done the wrong thing in these regards (I know I sometimes still fall into the trap when I'm not thinking enough), but it doesn't help to treat a lady as overly-special and outstanding, when mostly what she wants is to just hang with everybody and feel comfortable.
Now that doesn't mean the ladies are 100% innocent, either; every guy has known his share of girls who string guys along, overly flirting or whatever, yet they have no intention of doing anything about it. And there are plenty of girls out there who go crazy for the "mystery" and "excitement" of a bad boy, knowing full well it essentially NEVER ends well...or starts well...or has a good middle in between...
But yeah, there's plenty of stuff self proclaimed good guys could be doing to improve their situations.
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Post by Brandon Walsh is Insane. on Jul 25, 2009 2:37:06 GMT -5
Low self esteem girls are the easiest to get out with you though....
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Post by Ultimo Chocula on Jul 25, 2009 2:39:18 GMT -5
Low self esteem girls are the easiest to get out with you though.... But who wants to?
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