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Post by JMA on Feb 19, 2010 1:01:53 GMT -5
Matt ruled it during his V1 days... And he cut good promos then too. Despite the "derp Matt has never cut good promos derp" meme. In addition to the deterministic thinking (i.e. "if Wrestler A doesn't seem good now at something he'll NEVER be good at it"), the either/or thinking of fans really bothers me.
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Post by Greer on Feb 19, 2010 1:50:53 GMT -5
So I guess it's safe to assume that Smackdown vs Raw 2010 was innacurate with their character model...
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Post by skiller on Feb 19, 2010 1:54:29 GMT -5
On SmackDown this week, Matt's wearing his old pants.
That's one step in the right direction.
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Post by Janitor From Mars on Feb 19, 2010 2:13:56 GMT -5
[Vince] MATT SCREWED MATT! MWHAHAHAHA! [/Vince] In all seriousness, he is just not going to cut it as a world champ. Who said he had to be world champ? Seriously, if he were utilized as an underdog contender to a world title and given a couple of PPV title shots it would be pretty nice anyways. Do you negatively judge Rick Rude, Mr. Perfect, and Ted DiBiase because they never won the big one? If Jake Roberts hadn't become a punchline, do you think that people would think little of him because he never won a title in the WWE? Matt Hardy couldn't shine the boots of Rick Rude, Mr.Perfect and Ted DiBiase. He couldn't hold his liquor like Jake Roberts and doesn't have the killer psychology that Roberts had.
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Post by Janitor From Mars on Feb 19, 2010 2:15:28 GMT -5
Because he has the charisma of a brick and will continue to be the Marty Jannetty to Jeff's Shawn Michaels. Terrible comparison. Shawn didn't blow all of his chances like Jeff. The Rockers comparison is really just lazy. Shawn did however win the strap and so did Jeff. Would you like another comparison? Would a Lanny/Randy Poffo comparison be better? If so, at least Matt is fat like the Genius was.
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Post by JMA on Feb 19, 2010 2:21:31 GMT -5
Shawn did however win the strap and so did Jeff. As I said, a terrible comparison. Really, the only reason the Rockers are compared to the Hardys is because both were high-flyers with teenie-bopper fans. It's a pretty shallow example. You could easily compare Shawn with Matt, as Matt STILL has a job while Marty, like Jeff, blew numerous chances. And Matt, like Shawn, was better worker. More importantly, Matt, like Shawn, still as a job. Again, it's a BAD comparison. That example is slightly less terrible. But only slightly.
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Feb 19, 2010 2:54:10 GMT -5
On SmackDown this week, Matt's wearing his old pants. That's one step in the right direction. Oh, thank god.
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Post by sonicreducer on Feb 19, 2010 3:23:35 GMT -5
His ring music is much more over than he is.
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Post by Greer on Feb 19, 2010 3:54:45 GMT -5
His ring music is much more over than he is. Am I the only one hearing the monster pops he gets every week? At the Royal Rumble you would have thought it was HHH or HBK coming out. The pop was that big. He's quite over with the fans.
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Post by The Corporate Strudel on Feb 19, 2010 4:00:19 GMT -5
His ring music is much more over than he is. Am I the only one hearing the monster pops he gets every week? At the Royal Rumble you would have thought it was HHH or HBK coming out. The pop was that big. He's quite over with the fans. I think what he was saying is his ring entrance gets a pop, but he meets indifference from the fans in the ring. I would agree with that. Dude's not a credible upper carder.
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Post by Display Name on Feb 19, 2010 4:12:18 GMT -5
he deserves to be in the spot he's in.he's so damn boring and has wrestled the same match for years,IMO.
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Post by xxshoyuweeniexx on Feb 19, 2010 11:46:35 GMT -5
On SmackDown this week, Matt's wearing his old pants. That's one step in the right direction. The ones he worse before the heel turn? Nice, hope he works out and gets better.
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Post by bradtherad on Feb 19, 2010 13:00:25 GMT -5
What Matt needs is a haircut.
Girly hair was cool in the 1980's, now it just makes u look like the biggest jobber (Drew Mctyre has the same problem) and it doesn't help when ur girly hair is balding.
Shave him or give him a haircut and Matt can actually become something!!!
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Post by Tapout on Feb 19, 2010 13:06:09 GMT -5
Despite occasionally doing stupid stuff like this:
Matt's generally been very loyal and has been a steady hand to help greener guys get over.
I think (hope) the E has finally figured out the best role for Matt as a working man's babyface midcarder who sells offense well and gets the up-and-coming heel over.
His brother has screwed the company over repeatedly but they seem to be in a holding pattern with Matt which is where they should be with him, unless Jeff goes off and screws over the company hard, or Helms gets him into trouble. Otherwise, he's midcard-4-life and there's nothing wrong with that.
In other news, water is still wet, guys.
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Post by Catherine Perez on Feb 19, 2010 13:30:31 GMT -5
What Matt needs is a haircut.
Girly hair was cool in the 1980's, now it just makes u look like the biggest jobber (Drew Mctyre has the same problem) and it doesn't help when ur girly hair is balding.
Shave him or give him a haircut and Matt can actually become something!!!
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Post by corndog on Feb 19, 2010 17:33:36 GMT -5
Terrible comparison. Shawn didn't blow all of his chances like Jeff. The Rockers comparison is really just lazy. Shawn did however win the strap and so did Jeff. Would you like another comparison? Would a Lanny/Randy Poffo comparison be better? If so, at least Matt is fat like the Genius was. Whoa man, did you just compare Lanny Poffo to Matt Hardy, that is uncalled for. Lanny> Matt Hardy, he is my favorite lower card wrestler of all time, you sir are wrong! Lanny just didn't have the look and physique to be a top star, but he was gold on the mic, pretty good in the ring and when he was the Genius he played his character perfectly. Hardy is held back because of his own mistakes, mainly being a whiny bitch and getting fat.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Feb 19, 2010 21:20:27 GMT -5
On SmackDown this week, Matt's wearing his old pants. That's one step in the right direction. Nice. I just mentioned a couple pages back that he needed to go back to being the version of Matt Hardy that got him over. That includes his look.
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Post by The Ichi on Feb 19, 2010 21:23:22 GMT -5
So I guess it's safe to assume that Smackdown vs Raw 2010 was innacurate with their character model... That looks more like Cenas torso, did they get them mixed up or something? I hope Cena looks tubby in the game. ;D
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Post by H-Fist on Feb 20, 2010 0:35:39 GMT -5
I'm not going to argue anything else in your post. But I will argue this. In an inguinal hernia, a portion of the intestines pushes through a tear in the lower abdominal wall. Imagine an unsliced slab of bacon. Okay. Now take a knife and cut a hole in it. Now start shoving uncleaned chitterlings through said hole. Now bend, squeeze, push and pull on the bacon to simulate breathing or coughing or sneezing, sitting or standing, or doing a sit up. Now imagine throwing that slab of back flat on the ground to take a bump. You don't take time off in wrestling unless you need to, and Matt toughed that out until he went beyond basic hernia into serious abdominal tear. And he has another tear on the other side that likely will need surgery at some other time. Inguinal hernias aren't pretty even when they are in the early untreated stages. It looks like a giant testicle is protruding from the pubic area above the genitals. Seriously. That's not something you can work out with. That's not something you can easily rehab from. Even laparoscopic abdominal surgery leaves scars that don't like to allow regular and healthy ranges of motion.
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Post by Professor Chaos on Feb 20, 2010 1:02:08 GMT -5
I'm still mind boggled at this Khali/Hardy tag team. They don't fit together at all.
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