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Post by Lancers on Jun 10, 2010 0:07:36 GMT -5
1) WFNI in Indianapolis reported that Notre Dame, Syracuse, Rutgers, and Maryland are also joining the Big Ten. I like the Maryland choice better than Missouri because there's more TV sets in that region than in Missouri. And let's face it. That's what this is really all about for the Big Ten. Getting their network in as many homes as possible. How funny would this be? The whole blinking contest between Nebraska and Texas over splitting up the Big XII and then they wind up together in the Big Ten? WITH NOTRE DAME? It's like something out of a wrestling angle.
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Post by sunwukong on Jun 10, 2010 0:30:40 GMT -5
If that second option comes about, Notre Dame will never be competitive ever again. FOR THE REST OF ETERNITY.
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Post by THE Baldy Kendrick on Jun 10, 2010 0:34:54 GMT -5
I don't know how much stock to put in those. There's a Big 10 Bylaw that requires schools to be in contiguous states, which means that Texas and TAMU wouldn't be in unless Oklahoma (or some other OK school) comes in. And I don't see Maryland going anywhere that Duke doesn't go, so...
Of course, I know jack, so I could be flat out wrong.
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Post by Gus Richlen Was Wrong on Jun 10, 2010 0:37:15 GMT -5
If that second option comes about, Wisconsin will never be competitive ever again. FOR THE REST OF ETERNITY. fixed, sad to say. boy, things are sure as hell gonna look different around these big ten parts.
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Post by Bravo Echo November on Jun 10, 2010 0:43:39 GMT -5
Update from Lawrence KS, we're not happy with Nebraska's choice. Everyone here is down in the dumps.
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Post by Drillbit Taylor on Jun 10, 2010 0:48:54 GMT -5
I don't know how much stock to put in those. There's a Big 10 Bylaw that requires schools to be in contiguous states, which means that Texas and TAMU wouldn't be in unless Oklahoma (or some other OK school) comes in. And I don't see Maryland going anywhere that Duke doesn't go, so... Of course, I know jack, so I could be flat out wrong. Nah, your right. At this point Tech is tied to UT. UT is also tied to TAMU and OU is tied to UT and OSU. No conference besides PAC 10 can take both OSU and Tech. I do not know much on the OU side of things, but with Baylor screaming about being left out, Tech, being a public institue going for Tier one status will not let UT and TAMU go without them
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Post by sunwukong on Jun 10, 2010 1:02:14 GMT -5
This whole thing could very likely get very messy, especially now that you've got politicians getting involved. When word broke that A&M could possibly go to the SEC, Rick Perry said there was no way he'd let UT and A&M get broken up. And this morning Sen. Pat Roberts of Kansas was talking about anti-trust concerns and telling Ben Nelson of Nebraska basically "You'd better not let this happen or we'll get involved."
Now obviously in that case it's because Kansas would get double screwed by a Big XII implosion, but this I really don't see this whole thing happening as readily and easily as some think it will. There's going to be a LOT of EXTREMELY pissed off people, especially in smaller programs that will either be choked by expansion or left out in the cold.
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Post by Drillbit Taylor on Jun 10, 2010 1:11:21 GMT -5
This whole thing could very likely get very messy, especially now that you've got politicians getting involved. When word broke that A&M could possibly go to the SEC, Rick Perry said there was no way he'd let UT and A&M get broken up. And this morning Sen. Pat Roberts of Kansas was talking about anti-trust concerns and telling Ben Nelson of Nebraska basically "You'd better not let this happen or we'll get involved." Now obviously in that case it's because Kansas would get double screwed by a Big XII implosion, but this I really don't see this whole thing happening as readily and easily as some think it will. There's going to be a LOT of EXTREMELY pissed off people, especially in smaller programs that will either be choked by expansion or left out in the cold. Honestly, I think the Aggies are going to go with the rest of the group, they are just talking it up so that they seem important again.
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Post by ICBM on Jun 10, 2010 9:34:07 GMT -5
For those who doubt the drawing power of Notre Dame consider these few items:
Would a major network (NBC) keep them on for tradition only? NBC has canceled many legendary TV shows and specials after ratings or interest wained. Interest and ratings for ND football have done niether...ever
Notre Dame would lose revenue from it's apparel sales because they'd have to kick up to the Big 10. Pull a Ohio St hat off the shelf @ the nearest footlocker store and you will find a Big Ten logo. This indicates money they get for selling OSU gear(OSU draws the interest, makes a little money off the hat, but the Big Ten gets a cut too). Pull a Notre Dame cap off the shelf and you will see the University logo. ND rakes all proceeds for thier apparell and it is still alot of cash so yep still relevent there too
Yes the landscape of college football will change but ND has a legitimate reason to be pacified by the Big Ten and believe me the Big Ten wants ND way more than ND wants the Big Ten. They are a draw. Crappy teams of late or not they are and always will be a draw. You may not like John Cea either but he makes money and so does Notre Dame
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2010 9:36:46 GMT -5
Nebraska to the Big Ten...
...while the 'Huskers aren't what they used to be, I actually enjoy it. Now, if we can bring in a team for the Hoosiers football team to beat every year, I'll be happy.
Why not Baylor, who's new president was hoping that "conference armageddon" wouldn't happen?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2010 9:39:21 GMT -5
Unconfirmed Rumors abound on Big Ten expansion(Source: twitter.com/NCAAsports: 1) WFNI in Indianapolis reported that Notre Dame, Syracuse, Rutgers, and Maryland are also joining the Big Ten. 2) Another rumor has the Big Ten getting Texas, Texas A&M, Notre Dame, and Missouri(Missouri only if Notre Dame accepts joining Big Ten). As a listener to 1070 the Fan (WFNI), that first report is pretty much true. Those schools (with the exception of Notre Dame) are members of a group of colleges that are part of some academic dealie (I forgot the title), so that might've played a small part. Personally, Missouri and Kansas should head to the SEC, since there isn't going to be much use of a conference with what's left of the Big XII, and that'll help keep the "Border War" alive.
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Post by Red Impact on Jun 10, 2010 9:41:39 GMT -5
Nebraska to the Big Ten... ...while the 'Huskers aren't what they used to be, I actually enjoy it. Now, if we can bring in a team for the Hoosiers football team to beat every year, I'll be happy. Why not Baylor, who's new president was hoping that "conference armageddon" wouldn't happen? Big 10 has a bylaw that said schools have to be in adjoining states, right? They'd have to change that, as they aren't anywhere near Texas. They'd have to get a Kansas or Missouri school, then an Arkansas or Oklahoma School, then they could get a Texas school.
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Post by Dr. Bunsen Honeydew on Jun 10, 2010 10:28:56 GMT -5
ESPN now reporting that Colorado will announce that they are joining the Pac-10 and that Texas, Texas Tech, and TAMU, are to likely follow with annoucments later.
R.I.P. Big 12.
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Post by BearDogg-X on Jun 10, 2010 10:30:00 GMT -5
For those who doubt the drawing power of Notre Dame consider these few items: Would a major network (NBC) keep them on for tradition only? NBC has canceled many legendary TV shows and specials after ratings or interest wained. Interest and ratings for ND football have done niether...ever Notre Dame would lose revenue from it's apparel sales because they'd have to kick up to the Big 10. Pull a Ohio St hat off the shelf @ the nearest footlocker store and you will find a Big Ten logo. This indicates money they get for selling OSU gear(OSU draws the interest, makes a little money off the hat, but the Big Ten gets a cut too). Pull a Notre Dame cap off the shelf and you will see the University logo. ND rakes all proceeds for thier apparell and it is still alot of cash so yep still relevent there too Yes the landscape of college football will change but ND has a legitimate reason to be pacified by the Big Ten and believe me the Big Ten wants ND way more than ND wants the Big Ten. They are a draw. Crappy teams of late or not they are and always will be a draw. You may not like John Cea either but he makes money and so does Notre Dame True, but ND's AD Swarbrick has said that ND would only join a conference if their hand was forced. I think that their hand may be getting forced in as their BCS Bowl berth(If ND finishes in the Top 10 or 12 in the BCS, they're guaranteed a BCS berth, IIRC) may end up on the chopping block if the landspace changes too much. Anyway, more news: Chip Brown on his Twitter is reporting that Baylor and Texas Tech officials will also be in that meeting of Texas and Texas A&M officials. Colorado will officially announce Friday that they're accepting the invitation to join the Pac-10. Source: www.dailycamera.com/news/ci_15268160
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Post by Diddly on Jun 10, 2010 12:21:06 GMT -5
ESPN now reporting that Colorado will announce that they are joining the Pac-10 and that Texas, Texas Tech, and TAMU, are to likely follow with annoucments later. R.I.P. Big 12. I'm holding out for A&M to the SEC. The new rumor is that there have been talks between the two for months now. Anything can still happen.
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Post by lucaspunkari on Jun 10, 2010 12:38:17 GMT -5
As a USC fan, I look forward to our suspension from the bowls, if only because we can mess up other Pac-10 teams chances of making the Sun Bowl.
Also, everything I've known about the Conferences is blowing up before my very eyes, and it's fantastic to watch.
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Post by Diddly on Jun 10, 2010 12:42:57 GMT -5
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Post by Lancers on Jun 10, 2010 13:04:11 GMT -5
Smart move by Colorado to accept their invitation before everyone else because who knows what would've happened if Texas politics forced the PAC-10 to take Baylor along with them.
I'm starting to think that if Missouri doesn't wind up in the Big 10, perhaps the SEC would make sense. The state borders Arkansas, Tennessee and Kentucky. Not sure if the SEC would want to stretch further west to Kansas though. And I don't think they're interested in Baylor either.
I wonder with the new NCAA sanctions levied against USC if we'll see some of their players bolt to other programs.
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Post by Curt Hawkins Fan on Jun 10, 2010 13:08:18 GMT -5
Where is Iowa State going in this? I know its a really really really longshot but if the Big Ten wants to match the Pac 10 they can always make Iowa and all Big 10 state.
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Post by MGH on Jun 10, 2010 13:09:53 GMT -5
My most vested interests in all this, regardless of the SEC movements, is watching what becomes of Kansas and Louisville. Two schools rich in basketball history, recent and past, but no real football to speak of. By all accounts, neither are exactly wanted by any of the major conferences that would be formed. Could Louisville end up sulking back to C-USA, and Kansas end up forming an epic rivalry with ... Air Force? Yikes.
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