theryno665
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Post by theryno665 on Jul 21, 2011 19:37:25 GMT -5
Okay, we get it. Just because young people have the time, money, and effort to express themselves like such, doesn't mean that you have to go rah-rah about how conformity is better and how they should just be forced to be wage slaves and experience the REAL WORLD as you put it. You forget that a good chunk of hipsters and/or scenesters are actually just as conformist, if not moreso, than the garden-variety of conformity that they're "rebelling" against. Only their conformity has a shelf life of a few years, when they'll find a new fad to latch onto.
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Post by Sektor on Jul 21, 2011 19:39:30 GMT -5
I think most people's idea of what a hipster is is what I call "Indier than thou" people.
I get it, its cool to know of a band/artist/wrestler/whatever before they're famous. But obnoxiously bashing them and hating them once they become well known and mainstream is ridiculous.
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Jul 21, 2011 19:59:51 GMT -5
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Post by Alex Shelley on Jul 21, 2011 20:11:36 GMT -5
I agree that hipster backlash is annoying, and that most backlash against anything is generally more annoying than the thing in question. But hipsters ARE obnoxious. It's not like I go around bashing hipsters every second of the day and I certainly have my own hipstery qualities, but hipsters really can make me want to scream sometimes.
I probably encounter them a lot more often than a lot of people here because I go to a California university in which most of the students are spoiled rich white kids...
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Post by Alexander The So-so on Jul 21, 2011 20:21:12 GMT -5
I still don't believe in the term, or that these people exist. Worst "label" ever. Oh, they exist. A town two hours north of me called Bellingham is frigging full of them. And for those saying they don't know what they are, they are people who seem to be trying so hard not to conform that they are basically playing a role rather than being themselves. They only like indy music and indy movies, they wear T-shirts that support products they've never watched/used, and they scoff at "normal" and "commercial" people and ideas. I don't care what anyone says, they're douches. Exactly. It's not so much what these kids do or wear that bothers people; it's their attitude. I understand completely that young people are going through phases where they're exploring their identity, rebelling against their parents' ideas, and trying to be unique so that they feel they have an identity. But the attitude that some of them take when they do this is absolutely horrible. It's an arrogance that treats anyone who does something that's popular, likes any mainstream entertainment, or who works a standard job as some mindless, unenlightened, conformist lower life form. Meanwhile, though, they're own "uniqueness" and "freedom of thought" tends to be completely false, because they're only listening to obscure music or shopping at particular niche places precisely to be different, not out of any real love of the products. So on top of being arrogant towards the "conformist normal people," they have no right to be so in the first place, because they're not thinking for themselves and being true to themselves either. If people simply followed whatever cultural things that made them happy, whether they be mainstream or niche, and didn't flaunt it like any of it made them better than other people, it wouldn't be a problem. But as it stands, a lot of people go way too far to seperate themselves, and in a disingenuous way. Those are hipsters. I agree that sometimes people on the Internet are to quick to apply that label, but they are real, and they are really annoying.
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Post by Cyno on Jul 21, 2011 20:29:29 GMT -5
The thing with hipsters is that a lot of them are obnoxious douchebags. It's almost inherent in the description of what a hipster IS.
Don't have anything against the look or scene or whatever. It's not for me, but not offended by it or anything. I just hate the attitude a lot of hipsters have.
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Post by jagilki on Jul 21, 2011 20:44:29 GMT -5
So how long till the Backlash against people against backlashes?
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Post by metylerca on Jul 21, 2011 20:46:15 GMT -5
Go to Echo Park, then talk about hipster backlash being unreasonable.
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Post by triplethreatmark on Jul 21, 2011 20:47:45 GMT -5
Go to Echo Park and Silver Lake, then talk about hipster backlash being unreasonable. Fixed for accuracy.
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Post by Mattification on Jul 21, 2011 20:48:40 GMT -5
I know a guy that will like a band until they get popular. Then he hates them. I dunno if that makes him a hipster but it annoys the hell out of me.
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Post by General Adam on Jul 21, 2011 20:50:11 GMT -5
So how long till the Backlash against people against backlashes? I hate people that hate things that they hate. Then soon there will be someone that hates me because I hate people that hate the things that they hate. Then someone would hate that person because they hate me because I hate people that hate the things that they hate. Then someone one would hate him because he hates the guy who hates me because I hate people that hate the things that they hate. It keeps going and going and going and going.
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Post by Burst on Jul 21, 2011 21:01:50 GMT -5
I'm not saying hipsters aren't obnoxious; working at a bookstore, I've dealt with certainly more than my fair share, and now living just north of Manhattan, they're pretty prevalent in the right spots around here too.
In a way it's not too different from any other sort of fashion/attitude trends... Except that compared to say, an 80's punk rocker with a mohawk, the attitude is a bit... less... flattering. Which makes it much easier to attack them really.
I'm just worried about the label being applied to me even though what I like probably automatically negates it, though I'm sure there's some hipsters out there that 'ironically' like wrestling.
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theryno665
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Post by theryno665 on Jul 21, 2011 21:32:27 GMT -5
So how long till the Backlash against people against backlashes? I'm not good enough to call Backlash?
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Post by Citizen Snips on Jul 21, 2011 21:48:45 GMT -5
As a hipster, I find this "backlash" just the jealous prattlings of people who wish they had my iPod and Criterion Collection DVDs. Now excuse me while I drink this Pabst...
No, seriously, it's...ok? Yes, I'm sure we drive people up the wall when we throw a little scorn into our reviews of any and every thing we've seen, read or listened to directed at those who haven't seen, read or listened to them or, God forbid, didn't like or, as we like to say, "get" them. But such is life.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Jul 21, 2011 22:04:54 GMT -5
Mostly, I just get annoyed with the superiority complex they seem to have.
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Post by noleafclover1980 on Jul 21, 2011 22:28:15 GMT -5
The problem is the overuse of the term so it looses it's meaning, like emo. Lately people seem to toss the "hipster" label onto anyone that's into indy rock. To me, a hipster is an overbearing douchebag that happens to listen to indy stuff. It is an insane amount of effort put in to looking like they don't care, and liking things "ironically".. like stupid looking mustaches, and drinking PBR, since often they are privileged white kids, so they "ironically" drink crappy beer that poor white people often drink. They spend insane amounts of money on "vintage" clothes... so basically pay out the ass to appear as if they are wearing hand me downs. The hipster mentality is to also be in a constant pissing contest with other hipsters, to be the most "underground", and LOVE to finish sentences with a very smug "but you probably haven't heard of them" to show how superior they are in their knowledge of crappy bands no one wants to sign to a major label.
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Post by Non Banjoble Tokens on Jul 21, 2011 22:32:20 GMT -5
All I know about hipsters is that I'm not one of them. Unless...maybe I am one. Have I been one this whole time? No, wait...maybe you're all hipsters too. Is there some kind of test we could do to decipher this like what they did in "The Thing?"
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Post by Fauxberg on Jul 21, 2011 22:35:17 GMT -5
So how long till the Backlash against people against backlashes? I'm not good enough to call Backlash? Dear God I love tha video.
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Post by The Line on Jul 21, 2011 22:36:14 GMT -5
hey......PBR is like, the tastiest of the cheap beers . Real hipsters drink shit like Genesee
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Post by erisi236 on Jul 21, 2011 22:38:31 GMT -5
Damn, all this talk of PBR...
I drink this stuff all the time, I didn't know there was some symbolism to it.
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