Allie Kitsune
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Jul 22, 2011 9:24:42 GMT -5
The thing is, you often know a hipster type when you see one. It's about the clothes, the choices made in style of living (i.e. choice in what part of the city to live in, what kinds of apartments to rent, etc.), and seemingly leading an artist's lifestyle while...not actually being an artist. I also have no stomach for hipster-style acoustic songs. I love acoustic guitar, but I'm getting tired of all these commercials that have hipster covers of older, better songs done in these wimpy, whiney styles. I'm glad that AT and T commercial where they cover the nation with orange cloth is gone, since that song nearly led me to throwing my TV out the window. This all being said, I tend to group hipsters under the general umbrella of poseurs. It just feels like people who are trying to hard to exude a certain style and personality. I have nothing against style, I have nothing against liking a certain look; in fact, I take pride in appearing well groomed when I go out, wearing decent clothes, etc. It's when you're doing it just for the sake of a passing fad that you come off as a poseur. You mae a good point, and I think we can spot a "hipster" or the stereotypical one anyway with a few simple questions. "Would you do what you do if all of your friends stopped doing it?" and "Do you understand the meaning and origin behind your latest hobby or did you just latch on to it?" To use this board as an example, we all love wrestling, that's what drew us here originally (for the most part, and yes I'm assuming) so even when everyone says "man, that's stupid" we still watch. A "hipster" to me would be the individual who "loves" it, buys the merch for the top guys or whoever is popular at the moment, but no virtually nothing of the product itself. Not meaning bacstage stuff, but can be easily thrown off. My nephew, I lvoe him, but he's that way with MMA. He wears tap-out clothes all the time because his friends think it's awesome, and will occasioanlly watch a fight with me, but if I throw a name out there or talk about a fight (doesn't have to be from UFC 1 during the tournament days, it could be someone fighting on the undercard) he gives me the deer in the headlights look. Take the scene from PCU where Gutter is getting ready for the concert and Droz says "oh, that's the band with the guy from The Clash, right?" and Gutter just stares blankly at him. This leads to the line "You are aware that they did make music before 1989, right?" I'd say now a "wrestling hipster" would be the sort of fan whose favorite is whoever the most obscure guy in RoH or PWG is right now. If he watches TNA, he likes Gunner and Murphy, but only ironically, and will hate them as soon as someone starts legitimately enjoying them. He's trying to take simple wrestling angles, and explain them as allegories for socioeconomic conditions in the world. And so it goes.
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Post by angryfan on Jul 22, 2011 9:35:38 GMT -5
OK, good point. I realized my definition may be more fore the poser than for the hipster.
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Post by HMARK Center on Jul 22, 2011 10:01:56 GMT -5
Hah, yeah, that's another thing that's easily associated with hipsters: poor attempts at "irony" when talking about what they like or what they laugh at. Too much of that makes a person cynical. Again, I tie that to the (admittedly overly-simplistic) example of willingly drinking PBR: it's an awful tasting beer, but it's cheap, and it makes a hipster come off as "I'm actually drinking this beer by choice! How IRONIC."
The first exposure a lot of people who live around here got to the whole movement was when we all went off to college. It seemed like a lot of guys I knew had girlfriends who went to school in NYC, not very far away, obviously, but it felt like, for the majority of them, the instant their girlfriends got there they suddenly became different people, "city chic" for lack of a better term.
I'm sure it plays the other way around, as well; the guy who suddenly takes to wearing scarves even when it's 75 degrees outside and what have you.
I also find smoking to be huge among that crowd. Odd, since part of the hipster culture is having no money, yet they can afford stoges...in New York City?!? That's like $10+ a pop right there.
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Post by Red Impact on Jul 22, 2011 10:04:16 GMT -5
The way I always felt described it took two distinct aspects.
1: Rejection of anything mainstream to the point where, if someone or something you like enters the mainstream, they're rejected.
2: Spending a large amount of time, money and energy to look poor. Not actually being poor, mind you, but putting time into obtaining that look.
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Post by Urethra Franklin on Jul 22, 2011 10:05:32 GMT -5
Q: How many hipsters does it take to screw in a lightbulb?
A: It doesn't really matter. You probably have never heard of that number anyway.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2011 10:21:59 GMT -5
Backlash against Hipster Backlash = more annoying than Hipster backlash
I hope you see the inherent hypocracy of attempting to needlessly demonize a group of people demonizing another group of people.
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Post by Alexander The So-so on Jul 22, 2011 10:28:20 GMT -5
Q: How many hipsters does it take to screw in a lightbulb? A: It doesn't really matter. You probably have never heard of that number anyway. Ha ha, was wondering when that joke was going to be mentioned.
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Post by rapidfire187 on Jul 22, 2011 10:42:22 GMT -5
I don't know if "hipsters" are the people I don't like, but if they're the ones that where really stupid looking clothes and bang all the hot chicks then yea...I hate those guys.
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Post by nate5054 on Jul 22, 2011 11:10:54 GMT -5
Given I loved tons of indie-ish bands (and hundreds of others) the amount of times someone like this has said "Oh, so you don't know about Ginger from the Wildhearts?!" (or something similar when I talk about music), how they've acted offended when I've mentioned I'm a fan and ask them what their favourite album happens to be is glorious. Everyone's a conformist in some way if they're wearing shirts to say out loud "I AM A FAN OF THIS BAND/FILM/CHE GUEVERA!" or whatever it's annoying (particularly people who know nothing of Guevera and think he's like Ghandi!) Haha, THANK YOU for pointing out the whole Che thing (Can't take it any farther than that for obvious reasons). Speaking of which, I need to own this shirt:
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2011 11:22:55 GMT -5
The way I always felt described it took two distinct aspects. 1: Rejection of anything mainstream to the point where, if someone or something you like enters the mainstream, they're rejected. 2: Spending a large amount of time, money and energy to look poor. Not actually being poor, mind you, but putting time into obtaining that look. Both of which are largely untrue.
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Post by Baixo Astral on Jul 22, 2011 11:29:24 GMT -5
My old intern lost her job and had to move to Brooklyn - suddenly, it's the best place ever, she's sitting on the fire-escape, drinking PBR and smoking all night. She invited us to her birthday party, but it had a bottle beer bar, a swimming pool in a dumpster (that you can hire for that purpose) and it's own food truck - I had notions of turning up in my Old Navy clothing, seizing a taco and rubbing it in some douchebag's face, and then tipping the beer bar into the dumpster.
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Post by Red Lion on Jul 22, 2011 11:32:41 GMT -5
Hipster backlash backlash is more annoying than Hipster backlash!
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Post by Baixo Astral on Jul 22, 2011 11:38:05 GMT -5
'course, I was listening to Hipster Backlash Backlash back when they were playing parties in tenement stairwells in Bushwick.
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Post by Fauxberg on Jul 22, 2011 11:39:46 GMT -5
I hated hipster backlash backlash before everyone else did.
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Post by The Ichi on Jul 22, 2011 11:43:38 GMT -5
You mae a good point, and I think we can spot a "hipster" or the stereotypical one anyway with a few simple questions. "Would you do what you do if all of your friends stopped doing it?" and "Do you understand the meaning and origin behind your latest hobby or did you just latch on to it?" To use this board as an example, we all love wrestling, that's what drew us here originally (for the most part, and yes I'm assuming) so even when everyone says "man, that's stupid" we still watch. A "hipster" to me would be the individual who "loves" it, buys the merch for the top guys or whoever is popular at the moment, but no virtually nothing of the product itself. Not meaning bacstage stuff, but can be easily thrown off. My nephew, I lvoe him, but he's that way with MMA. He wears tap-out clothes all the time because his friends think it's awesome, and will occasioanlly watch a fight with me, but if I throw a name out there or talk about a fight (doesn't have to be from UFC 1 during the tournament days, it could be someone fighting on the undercard) he gives me the deer in the headlights look. Take the scene from PCU where Gutter is getting ready for the concert and Droz says "oh, that's the band with the guy from The Clash, right?" and Gutter just stares blankly at him. This leads to the line "You are aware that they did make music before 1989, right?" I'd say now a "wrestling hipster" would be the sort of fan whose favorite is whoever the most obscure guy in RoH or PWG is right now. If he watches TNA, he likes Gunner and Murphy, but only ironically, and will hate them as soon as someone starts legitimately enjoying them. He's trying to take simple wrestling angles, and explain them as allegories for socioeconomic conditions in the world. And so it goes. So pretty much every Zack Ryder fan is a hipster?
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Post by Baixo Astral on Jul 22, 2011 11:46:47 GMT -5
I hated hipster backlash backlash before everyone else did. I was there when Hipster Backlash Backlash found their instruments in The Dumpster. That's a boutique vintage music store on Bedford Av.
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Post by Urethra Franklin on Jul 22, 2011 11:48:35 GMT -5
I hated hipster backlash backlash before everyone else did. I was there when Hipster Backlash Backlash found their instruments in The Dumpster. That's a boutique vintage music store on Bedford Av. That place is cheaper than the Garbage Bin over on Grand.
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Post by "Playboy" Don Douglas on Jul 22, 2011 12:04:02 GMT -5
So how long till the Backlash against people against backlashes? I hate people that hate things that they hate. Then soon there will be someone that hates me because I hate people that hate the things that they hate. Then someone would hate that person because they hate me because I hate people that hate the things that they hate. Then someone one would hate him because he hates the guy who hates me because I hate people that hate the things that they hate. It keeps going and going and going and going. I hate the Boy Scouts, I hate Christmas, I hate little fluffy ducks. Part of me loathes Harriet Beecher Stowe. To actually contribute something to the discussion aside from the little rant that pops into my head whenever someone says "I hate" more than twice, I was shocked to learn PBR was some kind of trendy thing, because around here, it's a blue collar beer and is always among the cheapest you'll find.
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Post by HMARK Center on Jul 22, 2011 12:48:53 GMT -5
I hate people that hate things that they hate. Then soon there will be someone that hates me because I hate people that hate the things that they hate. Then someone would hate that person because they hate me because I hate people that hate the things that they hate. Then someone one would hate him because he hates the guy who hates me because I hate people that hate the things that they hate. It keeps going and going and going and going. I hate the Boy Scouts, I hate Christmas, I hate little fluffy ducks. Part of me loathes Harriet Beecher Stowe. To actually contribute something to the discussion aside from the little rant that pops into my head whenever someone says "I hate" more than twice, I was shocked to learn PBR was some kind of trendy thing, because around here, it's a blue collar beer and is always among the cheapest you'll find. Which is exactly why the hipster crowd likes to drink it. Again, weird sense of irony. I'll say it again...why do so many of them bother to drink cheap beer when they grossly overspend on coffee and cigarettes? And why am I even trying to figure this out?
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Allie Kitsune
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Jul 22, 2011 13:01:11 GMT -5
I hate the Boy Scouts, I hate Christmas, I hate little fluffy ducks. Part of me loathes Harriet Beecher Stowe. To actually contribute something to the discussion aside from the little rant that pops into my head whenever someone says "I hate" more than twice, I was shocked to learn PBR was some kind of trendy thing, because around here, it's a blue collar beer and is always among the cheapest you'll find. Which is exactly why the hipster crowd likes to drink it. Again, weird sense of irony. I'll say it again...why do so many of them bother to drink cheap beer when they grossly overspend on coffee and cigarettes? And why am I even trying to figure this out? Because Coffee is Serious Business. No room for irony.
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