CJ
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Post by CJ on Feb 22, 2011 1:49:52 GMT -5
Also what was the point of that s***!?! The Promos too, who is the Undertaker's secret cameraman who dares to film this scary man cut promos in grave yards, and watch his boots walk up the stairs of a cabin in the rain.
So, apparently Undertaker did not expect Triple H judging by the look on his face... yet if Hunter didn't come out Taker was just gonna stand in the middle of the ring and stare at us?
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Post by flatsdomino on Feb 22, 2011 2:14:22 GMT -5
Also what was the point of that s***!?! The Promos too, who is the Undertaker's secret cameraman who dares to film this scary man cut promos in grave yards, and watch his boots walk up the stairs of a cabin in the rain. So, apparently Undertaker did not expect Triple H judging by the look on his face... yet if Hunter didn't come out Taker was just gonna stand in the middle of the ring and stare at us? 'Taker just came to show everyone his new big-ass light-up sign. HHH will rue the day he interrupted the unveiling of the big-ass light-up sign.
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Post by kingbookermark on Feb 22, 2011 2:49:02 GMT -5
It is smart booking for Mania in my opinion because Taker vs. hhh is a better match then either hhh vs. sheamus II and Taker vs. Barrett. Since the streak is what is important to this match: hhh is a good threat with a cause: revenge. Taker's streak at this point is reserved for top tier stars like hhh.
The returns tonite were good, because I did not see hhh interrupting taker the day of his return. I expected the match but I did not expect that. A no words needed promo fit the situation: they have 4 weeks to push it with promos. hhh should take heed of what became of hbk: don't risk big against taker or you will lose big.
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Post by Citizen Zero on Feb 22, 2011 2:59:15 GMT -5
It is smart booking for Mania in my opinion because Taker vs. hhh is a better match then either hhh vs. sheamus II and Taker vs. Barrett. Since the streak is what is important to this match: hhh is a good threat with a cause: revenge. Taker's streak at this point is reserved for top tier stars like hhh. The returns tonite were good, because I did not see hhh interrupting taker the day of his return. I expected the match but I did not expect that. A no words needed promo fit the situation: they have 4 weeks to push it with promos. hhh should take heed of what became of hbk: don't risk big against taker or you will lose big. You're joking, right? Have the greatest accolade in the WWE won by Triple H, who'll probably retiring right on the heels of the Undertaker's own departure from wrestling? That's like WCW levels of stupid.
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Post by kingbookermark on Feb 22, 2011 3:21:55 GMT -5
Triple h is not going to win! Obviously. If you think i mean that. You are mistaken.
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Post by mikey_editor on Feb 22, 2011 3:40:11 GMT -5
If 'Taker goes out with a win and HHH retires, it's all good
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Feb 22, 2011 3:44:55 GMT -5
If 'Taker goes out with a win and HHH retires, it's all good Yeah, except for that whole "make some young guy's career in an instant" thing that gets tossed down the drain when Taker leaves for good.
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Post by kingbookermark on Feb 22, 2011 3:58:22 GMT -5
Taker hasn't exactly been known as the guy who put over young talent.. Ken Kennedy as an example.
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Post by Rorschach on Feb 22, 2011 4:00:28 GMT -5
If 'Taker goes out with a win and HHH retires, it's all good Yeah, except for that whole "make some young guy's career in an instant" thing that gets tossed down the drain when Taker leaves for good. Well, Hunter, should he lose (and I am thinking right now he's going over) would be victim #19 of the streak, right? Making next year's mania potentially 20-0 for Undertaker. There is only ONE man who could possibly be a bigger threat to the Streak than Hunter Hearst McMahon-Helmsley: John Cena. They HAVE to do Taker/Cena at Mania. I mean, if Taker can gut out one more year with sporadic appearances, or even just take from Mania to next February off....THIS would be the match of matches. Face it, Cena winning the WWE Title at Mania can only be done so many times before it becomes time to let the fresher faces on the roster have that honor...so HE moves up to the next thing he's never done. But if Hunter DOES pull a Kevin Nash and end the Streak because he himself calls the shots and he himself thinks he's the best candidate....it truly is BEYOND WCW levels of bugf*****ry.
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Post by hornshigh on Feb 22, 2011 4:05:58 GMT -5
To answer the OP... HHH is one of the biggest names in the industry. And there's the rub - in the industry. Outside of wrestling, he's virtually unknown.
Undertaker, on the other hand, is one of the first names people think of when wrestling is mentioned - just a hair below Hogan, Austin and Rock.
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Post by MichaelMartini on Feb 22, 2011 4:09:15 GMT -5
Yeah, except for that whole "make some young guy's career in an instant" thing that gets tossed down the drain when Taker leaves for good. There is only ONE man who could possibly be a bigger threat to the Streak than Hunter Hearst McMahon-Helmsley: John Cena. They HAVE to do Taker/Cena at Mania. I mean, if Taker can gut out one more year with sporadic appearances, or even just take from Mania to next February off....THIS would be the match of matches. I don't think it needs to happen. The streak, (kayfabe speaking of course) isn't as impressive when you look at it. Taker never faced Andre, Hogan, Warrior, Savage, Piper, Bret Hart, Austin, Rock, Vader, Lesnar, Angle, Goldberg, Jericho not even Foley at Mania. All guys who could've beat him. Add in washed up guys like Bossman and Bundy and facing guys he's already beat - Kane and HBK and now HHH it's not the feat it's made out to be.
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Post by celticjobber on Feb 22, 2011 4:13:05 GMT -5
Taker hasn't exactly been known as the guy who put over young talent.. Ken Kennedy as an example. Kennedy had heat with just about everyone in WWE aside from the Hardyz. And IMO, he didn't deserve to be put over by Taker anyway because he's just not that good.
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Post by Rorschach on Feb 22, 2011 4:15:15 GMT -5
There is only ONE man who could possibly be a bigger threat to the Streak than Hunter Hearst McMahon-Helmsley: John Cena. They HAVE to do Taker/Cena at Mania. I mean, if Taker can gut out one more year with sporadic appearances, or even just take from Mania to next February off....THIS would be the match of matches. I don't think it needs to happen. The streak, (kayfabe speaking of course) isn't as impressive when you look at it. Taker never faced Andre, Hogan, Warrior, Savage, Piper, Bret Hart, Austin, Rock, Vader, Lesnar, Angle, Goldberg, Jericho not even Foley at Mania. All guys who could've beat him. Add in washed up guys like Bossman and Bundy and facing guys he's already beat - Kane and HBK and now HHH it's not the feat it's made out to be. I strongly disagree. They've never billed him as a "legend killer" anyway, so your point there is moot. The Streak right now is hyped up moreso than EITHER World title, and I dare say that for the right newcomer, it would mean LOADS more to end the mythical undefeated Streak of the Deadman than to win a World Title at Mania. If you doubt how much more important than the titles it is, consider this: THE premiere spotlight hog in all of wrestling isn't gunning for EITHER belt upon his return. He's going after the Streak. That should tell you all you need to know about how important and how impressive the Streak is. ;D
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Post by Citizen Zero on Feb 22, 2011 4:39:48 GMT -5
Triple h is not going to win! Obviously. If you think i mean that. You are mistaken. Must've misunderstood. My apologies.
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Post by kingbookermark on Feb 22, 2011 4:41:18 GMT -5
No problem
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Post by The_Torture on Feb 22, 2011 4:52:25 GMT -5
I was there live and we never saw the Taker cross in hte rafters.. it was folded up.. however, the titan tron had Takers cross on it for like thirty minutes when we sat inside.. THEN superstars began and the cross on the bottom part of the titan tron was gone..
We all figured it was Taker though once during commercial the cross lowered, and about forty people set up the carpet and trays to catch on fire.. it was HOT inside that building, I'll tell ya that much!
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Post by MichaelMartini on Feb 22, 2011 5:13:52 GMT -5
I don't think it needs to happen. The streak, (kayfabe speaking of course) isn't as impressive when you look at it. Taker never faced Andre, Hogan, Warrior, Savage, Piper, Bret Hart, Austin, Rock, Vader, Lesnar, Angle, Goldberg, Jericho not even Foley at Mania. All guys who could've beat him. Add in washed up guys like Bossman and Bundy and facing guys he's already beat - Kane and HBK and now HHH it's not the feat it's made out to be. I strongly disagree. They've never billed him as a "legend killer" anyway, so your point there is moot. The Streak right now is hyped up moreso than EITHER World title, and I dare say that for the right newcomer, it would mean LOADS more to end the mythical undefeated Streak of the Deadman than to win a World Title at Mania. If you doubt how much more important than the titles it is, consider this: THE premiere spotlight hog in all of wrestling isn't gunning for EITHER belt upon his return. He's going after the Streak. That should tell you all you need to know about how important and how impressive the Streak is. ;D Hey, I'm all for a new guy ending the streak, but Cena isn't new and if it's just to make Taker go to 20, then like I said, not that impressive.
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Feb 22, 2011 5:29:00 GMT -5
My thoughts
1. Here comes Taker........ 2. Oh, here's Triple H. 3. Man, that was disappointing.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Feb 22, 2011 6:19:24 GMT -5
Taker hasn't exactly been known as the guy who put over young talent.. Ken Kennedy as an example. And John Cena in 2003. And Randy Orton in 2005. And CM Punk in 2009. Let's face it, the majority of the time when a young guy on a hot streak crosses Undertaker's path, they end up jobbing in short order. Granted, it didn't hurt those guys in the long run, but it still was detrimental to them at the time.
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Post by ANTLOL on Feb 22, 2011 6:45:36 GMT -5
My thoughts? LOLWWE! They better have Cena wrestle The Rock if they want to have any selling point for that event.
Oh and HHH coming out in a shirt? Probably because...
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