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Post by Monty Dawson on Apr 21, 2011 14:25:18 GMT -5
Or even TNA for that matter.
I know that the obvious answer is the travel and that's fair, but I feel like the money and TV exposure somewhat makes up for that.
The reason I hear most often from Indy fans about why a guy isn't in WWE is because they don't want to be because WWE isn't their style or the booking is bad. I think this is a total joke. No one wants to wrestle in front of 200 people when they could wrestle in front of 20,000 because it's "not their style"
The "They don't like how they would be booked" is so ridiculous I can't even begin to talk about it.
Some people say that the money is about the same over the course of the year, but I have a real hard time believing this. And even if you only have a short run in WWE your asking price from Indy promoters later on has to, I don't know, double, now that you have "former WWE Superstar who fans recognize" on your resume
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Post by BigJerichool222 on Apr 21, 2011 14:27:14 GMT -5
They do. They're just acting like they don't because it makes them look like they don't need it which makes them look like they're bigger than they actually are.
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Apr 21, 2011 14:29:32 GMT -5
I'm sure there are some wrestlers who treat their wrestling as their craft, and put artistic control over any paycheck.
As said before, you can make as much on the Indy scene if you aren't a top guy. Japan pays well too, I think, and is a much more natural fit for a guy like Low Ki.
With that said, I don't know how anyone, even given that, could resist the possibility of wrestling at Wrestlemania, or in Madison Square Garden, at least once.
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Post by keezy on Apr 21, 2011 14:30:22 GMT -5
Scotty Goldman
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Post by chunkylover53 on Apr 21, 2011 14:30:50 GMT -5
I think its all of a matter of pride and they are more comfortable having freedom with their character in the indies.
If they wrestled in the 1980s or even the 1990s, they would probably think different because WWF only hired guys with experience and felt they can use them to enhance their roster(Piper, Savage, Ted Dibiase, etc etc). Nowadays, all you have to do is be related to an already established wrestler or go to FCW and get trained and you're in. There's just no journey anymore.
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Post by Wolf Hurricane on Apr 21, 2011 14:31:01 GMT -5
Well, for women, they'd have a genuine point. Between the Beautiful People's division in TNA and the LayCool division in WWE, it would be pretty much impossible for a woman's wrestler to go anywhere but back out the door, or languish in limbo. Ask Serena and Roxxi.
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Post by Monty Dawson on Apr 21, 2011 14:31:44 GMT -5
Can Eugene be booked anywhere without being recognized as "that retarded guy from WWE"? He wrestles as Eugene (not sure if he uses the name, but the character is the same) around here all the time, and I'm sure he gets paid handsomely for it |
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Post by Vice honcho room temperature on Apr 21, 2011 14:34:16 GMT -5
Maybe they don't feel ready for it. In a few years they go to the WWE and set it on fire but you go in now get a red rooster gimmick and be miserable and burn bridges ruing their chances. Of course you could get injured and miss out on it but that's life.
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Apr 21, 2011 14:35:10 GMT -5
The ~300 days a year schedule, the constant wear and tear on their bodies, and the need to maintain the sort of exagerated physique that WWE expects from its performers..
Indy wrestlers can wrestle a few times a month while working a "real" job on the side. It's a lot less glamorous and a lot less profitable, but it's also a lot healthier in the long run.
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Post by Hit Girl on Apr 21, 2011 14:35:24 GMT -5
1- Recognition that they may not have the required look, ring style or personality
2- Fear of WWE's eccentric management and the WWE "machine"
3- Unwillingness to put themselves through the WWE travel schedule
4- May be perfectly happy on the indie/international scene.
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Post by derickyuki on Apr 21, 2011 14:40:02 GMT -5
Some people can't actually learn the WWE style. It takes a lot to go from 30 minute epics to 5 minute segments that make sense and tell a story.
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Post by Raja Lion on Apr 21, 2011 14:45:32 GMT -5
I think the schedule and demand is enough alone to turn some people away. Its why Angle left. Its why Sting has mostly refused to come. Its arguably why Low Ki left. If you've got a young family, it has to be extremely tough being on the road so much.
Look at guys like Carlito and MVP. Mostly midcarders with brief tastes of main event, yet still asked out. Carlito was eventually released by the company, but rumors are he wanted out of his contract sooner.
I also think the booking plays into it. There are guys who work their butts off, but still find themselves only working Superstars or dark matches and can never seem to get ahead. I agree that is partially the performer's own fault, but WWE are known to spit guys out of the system without giving them much of a chance prior.
Also backstage politics. Face facts, politics come into things in every facet of life. You play politics digging ditches or as the CEO of the biggest company on the planet. Some people will not compromise or do this.
Frankly, there's a multitude of reasons why someone may not want to be in the WWE. Each case is probably very different but with similar reasons at the end of the day.
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Post by The Ichi on Apr 21, 2011 14:52:35 GMT -5
The ~300 days a year schedule, the constant wear and tear on their bodies, and the need to maintain the sort of exagerated physique that WWE expects from its performers.. Indy wrestlers can wrestle a few times a month while working a "real" job on the side. It's a lot less glamorous and a lot less profitable, but it's also a lot healthier in the long run. You nailed it. |
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Post by Alex Shelley on Apr 21, 2011 14:58:24 GMT -5
Because they don't care about money or fame and just love to wrestle...?
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Post by Citizen Zero on Apr 21, 2011 15:00:56 GMT -5
Because they don't care about money or fame and just love to wrestle...? And don't want to be stuck with the stigma of a wretch-inducing gimmick ala Eugene or Red Rooster. |
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Post by Boomaga on Apr 21, 2011 15:01:51 GMT -5
Scotty Goldman would return to WWE in a heartbeat if given the opportunity. |
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Apr 21, 2011 15:07:04 GMT -5
Because they're not Tough Enough (TM)?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2011 15:08:24 GMT -5
Scotty Goldman would return to WWE in a heartbeat if given the opportunity. I think the comment was more on what happened to Scotty in WWE. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2011 15:12:41 GMT -5
Being a WWE wrestler is a huge pain in the ass, it has to be your whole life with the way they travel around.
If you're just a local wrestler...you can wrestle, then probably just go home.
Easy to see why some wrestlers would like to have a life outside the company.
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Post by SAJ Forth on Apr 21, 2011 15:18:17 GMT -5
I think it's more the creative freedom that they get in smaller promotions that they don't get in WWE or TNA.
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