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Post by Disaster Report on Apr 9, 2011 16:37:50 GMT -5
I really wish he had a way to go take as much time to recover as he needs. Whether it's a heart thing or a substance thing. Just get out of the public eye and mend the body. I think his statement about skipping the HoF because it would be a potentially bad situation may show that his heart's in the right place, but maybe he's just surrounded by the wrong people.
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Post by normcoleman on Apr 9, 2011 16:43:32 GMT -5
Time is no longer on his side. sad but true.
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Post by hoganhallnash on Apr 9, 2011 18:12:50 GMT -5
Pretty amazing that TMZ has picked this up.
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Post by celticjobber on Apr 9, 2011 18:33:15 GMT -5
Not to make like of the situation, but it's ironic that this happened in Fall River. The hometown of late Howard Stern wackpacker Hank The Angry Drunken Dwarf.
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Apr 9, 2011 18:42:08 GMT -5
Not to make like of the situation, but it's ironic that this happened in Fall River. The hometown of late Howard Stern wackpacker Hank The Angry Drunken Dwarf. Hank died? Weird, I feel like I would have heard about that.
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Apr 9, 2011 18:42:20 GMT -5
Ok this is the FIRST TIME. Hall showed up in this bad of shape. Never before did he show up so bad he couldn't do anything. When you book a guy it normally months in advance. Even with his track record, they is no telling that Hall would be in this condition. Because as many problems he has had before. Never was he so bad that he couldn't do the job at all. The promotor should have tooken action when he showed up in that matter. Not send him out there with the embarassment that "whole look, my big guest showed up screwed up. Lets all look at him. And lets all see how careless I am for his well being." You still didn't explain my point. Why book him in the first place? It's simple why? greed. Regardless of his personal issues. Hall is still a big star. Indy promoters will put those personal issues aside if it means drawing a bigger crowd. If people are willing to pay and see him. They will contiune to take that chance. As sick as that sounds it how a lot of wrestling is, even TNA. But the promoters should have drawn the line and said no you not going out there. In this case with Hall.
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Post by celticjobber on Apr 9, 2011 18:56:06 GMT -5
Not to make like of the situation, but it's ironic that this happened in Fall River. The hometown of late Howard Stern wackpacker Hank The Angry Drunken Dwarf. Hank died? Weird, I feel like I would have heard about that. Yeah, he died right before September 11, 2001. So it didn't get alot of coverage (understandably).
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Post by Hypnotix on Apr 9, 2011 19:09:37 GMT -5
I don't think Hall has much longer. Its a shame to see someone who had so many highlights in his career is finishing it off like this. So few wrestlers ride off into the sunset anymore. They just beat their bodies to death.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2011 19:20:26 GMT -5
Everyone around here knows im a huge Hall fan and this literally makes me cry...He reminds me of my older brother drunk like this all the time so much...
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Post by Greer on Apr 9, 2011 19:22:54 GMT -5
What if it was a heart condition or something medication related?
He could have seriously passed out or died in that ring.
Unreal.
To see someone who is just at the 50 year mark I believe, literally being CARRIED into the ring and being held up to do a few spots is beyond sad. It's grotesque.
This, along with the fact that people have to work with him and act like NOTHING is wrong, selling and cutting promos, is a disgrace.
When taking the bump he had to take, he literally just collapsed. Lifeless. There was no soul left in his body.
Where Jake Roberts was sad, however a bit comedic...this is tragic. I'm at a loss for words of how genuinely disturbed I am watching this.
HHH, HBK, ANYBODY. Help this man.
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Post by 01010010 01101001 01100011 on Apr 9, 2011 19:42:55 GMT -5
Don't know if its been mentioned but, Hall's people are claiming he is having issues with the medication he was given for his high blood pressure a few nights ago.
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Apr 9, 2011 19:44:53 GMT -5
What if it was a heart condition or something medication related? He could have seriously passed out or died in that ring. Unreal. To see someone who is just at the 50 year mark I believe, literally being CARRIED into the ring and being held up to do a few spots is beyond sad. It's grotesque. This, along with the fact that people have to work with him and act like NOTHING is wrong, selling and cutting promos, is a disgrace. When taking the bump he had to take, he literally just collapsed. Lifeless. There was no soul left in his body. Where Jake Roberts was sad, however a bit comedic...this is tragic. I'm at a loss for words of how genuinely disturbed I am watching this. HHH, HBK, ANYBODY. Help this man. That's the bit that's weird to me. Dude's got friends in HIGH places. If he wanted help, he could get help. But for some reason, you never hear them even mention Hall.
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Post by Bob Schlapowitz on Apr 9, 2011 19:54:34 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure that I've read that HHH, HBK, and Nash have all tried to help Hall numerous times. As awful as it probably sounds, you can't help someone who doesn't want to help themselves. The rest of his Kliq buddies have probably tried their damnedest to help the man, but washed their hands of the situation because he doesn't want to help himself. I've seen it happen to people I know.
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Post by Greer on Apr 9, 2011 20:33:12 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure that I've read that HHH, HBK, and Nash have all tried to help Hall numerous times. As awful as it probably sounds, you can't help someone who doesn't want to help themselves. The rest of his Kliq buddies have probably tried their damnedest to help the man, but washed their hands of the situation because he doesn't want to help himself. I've seen it happen to people I know. I know its probably frustrating but you have got to keep trying. Use force if needed. Help this man. He is a walking obituary.
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Post by dabossftw on Apr 9, 2011 20:36:22 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure that I've read that HHH, HBK, and Nash have all tried to help Hall numerous times. As awful as it probably sounds, you can't help someone who doesn't want to help themselves. The rest of his Kliq buddies have probably tried their damnedest to help the man, but washed their hands of the situation because he doesn't want to help himself. I've seen it happen to people I know. As have I, Schlapowitz. I've personally had to "abandon" friends and even family members after giving it my all to be supportive and understanding in their recovery. I think you hit the nail on the head- Shawn, HHH, and Nash have all tried to stick with Scott and help him get on the right track. However, as the saying goes, "you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink." The only person who can help Scott is Scott himself. I feel for his children, who must be at least teenagers now, as I've been in the exact situation they probably find themselves in- standing by watching a parent throw away their lives.
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Apr 9, 2011 23:30:02 GMT -5
What if it was a heart condition or something medication related? He could have seriously passed out or died in that ring. Unreal. To see someone who is just at the 50 year mark I believe, literally being CARRIED into the ring and being held up to do a few spots is beyond sad. It's grotesque. This, along with the fact that people have to work with him and act like NOTHING is wrong, selling and cutting promos, is a disgrace. When taking the bump he had to take, he literally just collapsed. Lifeless. There was no soul left in his body. Where Jake Roberts was sad, however a bit comedic...this is tragic. I'm at a loss for words of how genuinely disturbed I am watching this. HHH, HBK, ANYBODY. Help this man. That's the bit that's weird to me. Dude's got friends in HIGH places. If he wanted help, he could get help. But for some reason, you never hear them even mention Hall. They all tried to help him. They can only do so much when someone is not responding. The WWE had him in rehab. Who I'm sure his friends in the WWE HHH and HBK. Got him there. Nash has several times tried to help him with his problems. Hall just at times refused the help. At that point there not much you can do when they don't except. Which is really said. Waltman is the only guy who hasn't done a lot because he has his own problems. But Waltman is on a much lighter deal. As in he can still work.
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Post by Malcolm Tucker for PM on Apr 10, 2011 0:04:46 GMT -5
I hope WWE gives him and/or Nash an induction into the HOF next year to give him a reason to stay clean. You've got to believe that missing out on the Kliq reunion a couple weeks back hurt him. The irony is, it seems like it was during the time of the Kliq's mid-nineties heyday where he picked up these terrible habits. This was the guy who was taught the rights & wrongs of the wrestling business by Curt Hennig when he was in the AWA. I doubt he approved of Hall's antics years later in the WWF. While HBK & Nash have moved on from those days, Hall is still hopelessly stuck in the past. My own theory is that the man is still riddled with guilt over some of the shitty things he & his friends did back in the day (Waltman is exactly the same). I found it interesting when Hall was asked in an interview if he & the Kliq went too far in their shabby treatment of Chris Candido and after a long pause he admitted he did. Around the same time, Nash was asked a similar question and just laughed it off like Candido didn't matter. I'm not sure about HBK, but I'm sure he will be more diplomatic nowadays compared to the 'old Shawn' who clearly had no respect for 'little Candido'.
Rambling a bit here, but I genuinely think that Scott Hall is someone who just can't face up to some of the things he done in the past and needs the escape that drugs & alcohol brings. For him, rehab is somewhere you go to lay low for a while rather than a place where you change your life. Hall was one of my favourite wrestlers ever. I watched a couple of minutes of that video before I could stomach it no more. Sad.
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Post by stormwrestling on Apr 10, 2011 4:30:23 GMT -5
Really hard to watch
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Post by Corporate H on Apr 10, 2011 4:45:39 GMT -5
Some friends they are, letting him go out like that. Was he really that hard to restrain? At this point it's like he's vying to outdo Hardy at his own game. What an embarrassment and this coming from a HY-UGE Razor mark. Scott Hall however can be forgotten at this point...
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Post by Snowman on Apr 10, 2011 8:59:25 GMT -5
That was really sad, he was like an old man with Parkinsons. When they realised that they had to carry him to the ring that should have raised alarm bells.
I don't think he was drunk or high on recreational narcotics, I think he is just very very ill, and probably having a bad reaction to prescription medication. He should have been no where near a wrestling event, they guy thought he was in the UK for f***s sake.
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