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Post by noleafclover1980 on Apr 11, 2011 2:06:57 GMT -5
Back on subject.... he doesn't look drunk there, looks sick... and if he's on the hospital w/ cardiac issues and Nash has been there to see him since that video, we shouldn't be so quick to judge. I'm just glad he didn't freaking die out there.
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Post by The Dude Abides on Apr 11, 2011 4:36:56 GMT -5
He looks pished out his mind to me.
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Post by defdave on Apr 11, 2011 7:22:58 GMT -5
Yeah I'm sorry but he definitely looks blitzed out of his freaking gourd. God bless him and help him get his life together.
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Post by derrtaysouth95 on Apr 11, 2011 8:16:58 GMT -5
Me too. Granted TNA did the same thing with Jeff Hardy. Hopefully Hall gets help.
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Post by R-Duke on Apr 11, 2011 8:34:51 GMT -5
This is just my personal opinion, but I honestly think he looks drugged out of his mind. I won't claim to know exactly what he's on but he moves around and acts like he's on a crap load of benzodiazepines and alcohol. He's totally out of it, can't function properly and does not seem to know where he is.
Let me just say that I'm in now way assuming anything, or even judging him, but I have personally been that messed up on pills, and at one time nearly died because of it... difference is that I was young and not nearly as beat ut physically or mentally as Hall is, and if he keeps doing this s*** to himself this won't end well. I really don't want to see him added to the ever growing list of wrestlers no longer with us anytime soon :/
Of course, he could very well be just ill. Either way, he should not have been out performing at a wrestling show. And either way, he obviously needs professional help. Doesn't really matter in the end, because no matter what was wrong with him, he was in no condition to even take care of himself and should have received medical attention.
Everyone's at fault here. Hall for ... well... either being to ill to perform and not realizing it or getting himself that messed up before the show. The promoters for pushing him out there, and his "friends" for letting it happen. Any way you look at it, this is just horrible.
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Post by probable on Apr 11, 2011 8:52:37 GMT -5
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Post by Citizen Zero on Apr 11, 2011 8:56:34 GMT -5
What a scumbag promotion.
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Post by defdave on Apr 11, 2011 9:02:59 GMT -5
This is just my personal opinion, but I honestly think he looks drugged out of his mind. I won't claim to know exactly what he's on but he moves around and acts like he's crap load of benzodiazepines and alcohol. He's totally out of it, can't function properly and does not seem to know where he is. I think you're probably right. Looks like pills or a combination of pills and alcohol. Very sad situation either way.
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Post by repomanfan on Apr 11, 2011 9:17:41 GMT -5
"because he is broke and desperately needs the cash"----Meltzer
Is this true. I always thought that he was doing okay financially?
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Post by defdave on Apr 11, 2011 9:45:38 GMT -5
Meltzer. Ughhh. Sorry, not a fan of his at all. I side with guys like Roddy Piper who basically say he's a scumbag smark. But anyway, that's my personal opinion on Meltzer.
The thing really is though, how do any of us really truly know Hall's financial situation other than internet rumors and innuendo? Yaknow? The fact is, no matter what Meltzer or any internet talking heads say, we really don't know the facts of his financial situation.
The heart of the matter is that Scott Hall is a sick man who needs help...desperately. And these promoters didn't do him any favors by allowing him to go out like that.
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Post by repomanfan on Apr 11, 2011 9:54:46 GMT -5
Meltzer. Ughhh. Sorry, not a fan of his at all. I side with guys like Roddy Piper who basically say he's a scumbag smark. But anyway, that's my personal opinion on Meltzer. The thing really is though, how do any of us really truly know Hall's financial situation other than internet rumors and innuendo? Yaknow? The fact is, no matter what Meltzer or any internet talking heads say, we really don't know the facts of his financial situation. The heart of the matter is that Scott Hall is a sick man who needs help...desperately. And these promoters didn't do him any favors by allowing him to go out like that. That quote was really bizarre. I don't read Meltzer, but you would think he would be doing a little more than simply pulling info out of his ass. I don't think Hall needs the money, he's just a dude that loves wrestling, and likes doing a few independent gigs once in a while.
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Post by defdave on Apr 11, 2011 9:57:18 GMT -5
Yeah I think you're right, brother. Just like Flair, wrestling is a really addictive drug for Hall.
Thing is, the promoters never should have let him go out there in that condition. A promoter with integrity wouldn't have allowed Hall's self-destructive behavior to be displayed to the public. Instead they should have sent him back, told him to get help, apologized to their audience and given refunds if need be.
But hey, then again..maybe this will turn out to be a positive thing and Hall will finally...finally get the help he really needs. I'm not holding my breath but I hope and pray for the best for him.
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Post by hoganhallnash on Apr 11, 2011 10:45:43 GMT -5
I think a lot of you are giving Scott Hall way too much credit.
There's absolutely no doubt in my mind Meltzer is 100% correct on this one.
When I heard he went to the hospital, my first thought was "I wonder if he'll be able to afford it with what they paid him at the show."
And he doesn't look sick. He looks completely drugged out of his mind.
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Post by hoganhallnash on Apr 11, 2011 10:48:46 GMT -5
People need to stop booking Hall. Thank you.
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Post by repomanfan on Apr 11, 2011 10:50:29 GMT -5
I think a lot of you are giving Scott Hall way too much credit. There's absolutely no doubt in my mind Meltzer is 100% correct on this one. When I heard he went to the hospital, my first thought was "I wonder if he'll be able to afford it with what they paid him at the show." You think so? He still lives in a pretty nice house. I don't know much about Meltzer, so I really don't have an opinion. Maybe he is telling the truth.
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Post by hoganhallnash on Apr 11, 2011 11:40:55 GMT -5
I think a lot of you are giving Scott Hall way too much credit. There's absolutely no doubt in my mind Meltzer is 100% correct on this one. When I heard he went to the hospital, my first thought was "I wonder if he'll be able to afford it with what they paid him at the show." You think so? He still lives in a pretty nice house. I don't know much about Meltzer, so I really don't have an opinion. Maybe he is telling the truth. Why else would he have shown up? Everyone all of a sudden is making Hall out to be this tragic figure just trying to be a grit veteran and show up after coming out of the hospital...it's because he got paid a lot of money to be at this show and he needed it. Everyone does remember that this is the same guy who has constantly no showed wrestling events, probably more than anyone else in the past decade.
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Apr 11, 2011 12:06:28 GMT -5
Here what I think about why he even showed up. Is it because he needs the money? Maybe. But I doubt it's the main reason because if he was in that bad of need of money. I'm sure Nash, HHH, or HBK could helped him no problem.
Maybe he still loves the business and loves the fans. It was Roddy Piper himself that did say wrestling is a sickness. That it is very hard to get away from it and leave it. Hell look at the Rock, why did he comeback? Money? Hell no. Because the Rock makes more money doing a movie then he could ever make in Wrestling. It's because he still loves it.
I think some of that is in Hall. Because you watch Last Call with Scott Hall on You Tube. You find him watching old matches with his friends like Larry Z. That shows me he still likes it and is a fan. At this event I'm willing to believe that he was drug out and he was not thinking straight. basicly in no condition to make that choose of going or staying home. Hell he could been ok when he showed up to the town. But then taken the pills just before the show.
I agree that he needs new people around him taking care of his business. People who look after him and not book him in wrestling angled bookings. He should if anything stick with Autograph signings or fanfest like events.
I say what needs to happen is he takes no more bookings and if he has any in the next couple months. Cancel them. I think what where dealling with is a side effect of mixing his meds with liquar. Which is a known to be a bad thing. He needs to stay away from and wrestling event for a few months. Rest up health wise from all these Hospital visits.
Get all his health stuff stablize. After a couple of this. Then MAYBE take a booking that is ONLY Autograph signings. He got a pass Maker. That alone should have stopped any bookings that has him doing more then signing. No taking bumps or anything that will put him at risk.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Apr 11, 2011 12:43:35 GMT -5
"because he is broke and desperately needs the cash"----Meltzer Is this true. I always thought that he was doing okay financially? I think he was, but things change. I vaguely remember when he first tried to come back to TNA a few years ago (when he no showed a ppv main event) reports were coming out he was depressed because he didn't see his kids a lot. It's sad to see him like that, but his demons are catching up to him.
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Post by lovingway on Apr 11, 2011 17:19:41 GMT -5
Top of the Line Bookings, who books Hall sometimes posted this to their Facebook URGENT MEDIA PRESS RELEASE - REGARDING (Scott Hall) !!!
It has been brought to our attention and we have received many e-mails regarding (Scott Hall) and his recent event at (Top Rope Promotions) this past weekend in (Fall River, MA) from several people. We here at (Top Of The Line Talent Bookings) are fully aware of the situation that... transpired, and this is what we have to say regarding this matter......
(Scott Hall) is clean now and he has a bad heart condition. He was "NOT" under the influence of illegal narcotics or alcohol. This was "NOT" his fault at all and this was merely a case of too much prescribed medicine from his doctor and the medication did not mix well. We do "NOT" blame (Scott Hall) for any wrong doing in this case and we will continue to book for him as soon as he is 100% well again. We also support (Scott Hall) 100% and we wish him a speedy recovery and we hope he gets well soon.
FOR THE RECORD...... (Top Of The Line Talent Bookings) had nothing to do with this booking and this is a booking (Scott Hall) took on his own.
Please pray for him, as we are praying for him now ourselves.....thank you.www.facebook.com/TopOfTheLineTalentBookings
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Post by Citizen Zero on Apr 11, 2011 17:37:56 GMT -5
Top of the Line Bookings, who books Hall sometimes posted this to their Facebook URGENT MEDIA PRESS RELEASE - REGARDING (Scott Hall) !!!
It has been brought to our attention and we have received many e-mails regarding (Scott Hall) and his recent event at (Top Rope Promotions) this past weekend in (Fall River, MA) from several people. We here at (Top Of The Line Talent Bookings) are fully aware of the situation that... transpired, and this is what we have to say regarding this matter......
(Scott Hall) is clean now and he has a bad heart condition. He was "NOT" under the influence of illegal narcotics or alcohol. This was "NOT" his fault at all and this was merely a case of too much prescribed medicine from his doctor and the medication did not mix well. We do "NOT" blame (Scott Hall) for any wrong doing in this case and we will continue to book for him as soon as he is 100% well again. We also support (Scott Hall) 100% and we wish him a speedy recovery and we hope he gets well soon.
FOR THE RECORD...... (Top Of The Line Talent Bookings) had nothing to do with this booking and this is a booking (Scott Hall) took on his own.
Please pray for him, as we are praying for him now ourselves.....thank you.www.facebook.com/TopOfTheLineTalentBookings...Out of all of that the one thing that jumps out at me is them putting 'not' in quotation marks for some reason.
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