Russo Accussed of Plagiarizing Crimson's Gimmick

[Celgress]

Interesting claim, though such a thing would be hard to prove in a court of law I'd suspect. What does everyone think about the below story:

Vince Russo Accused Of Ripping Off A Gimmick

by TNAWrestlingNews.com Staff on 07/03/2011 - 04:40 PM

1PW's Danny Rodd sent the following along:

Just wanted to let you know that an indy wrestler friend of mine is being SEVERELY ripped off by Vince Russo. His name is Justin Carnes and he IS on Facebook. He is very good friends with Rhyno and some others, has had tryouts/dark matches with TNA and also wrestled in Japan. He has wrestled with us in Toledo for Powerbomb Championship Wrestling, Pro Wrestling Ohio and many others and is VERY good. He developed the character "Krimson" (with face paint and all) nearly two years ago. Not only has Russo used the name, now Sting looks just like him! It's ridiculous. Justin is on my friends list and you can see his pics. He also has a lot of matches on YouTube. You can see THE Real Krimson here.. see if you notice anything www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvVPvlQuaoI and www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5PPr-YmkMU


Source:

www.tnawrestlingnews.com/headlines/311732392.shtml

[Mozenrath]

I love the emphasis.

"He IS on Facebook, Russo, so don't deny his being on Facebook, now!"

[Sajoa Moe]

I saw him on PWO once and dismissed him as another boring "badass goth" character that tries to be like TDK Joker. And it's not like Crimson is ripping off anyone by using the name.

By the way, I AM on Facebook, too. Does that mean I'm ripping him off?

[Michael Coello]

There's another guy on the indy scene who's big and undefeated, or is billed as Amazing Red's little brother?

Also, will he then go after this board cause of OUR Krimson?

[Yami Daimao]

And Krimson is a direct ripoff of Ledger's Joker, what's his point?

[Full of IT.]

Yeah getting tired of everyone trying to channel Heath Ledgers Joker, and this is the worst case to date. He's stolen EVERYTHING from Heath's character... and I mean, EVERYTHING.

[Deleted]

I like how he says Sting is ripping off his look. No kiddo. He's ripping off the movie The Dark Knight.

And seriously? Nobody else can be called "Crimson" because you're "Krimson"? The University of Alabama Crimson Tide better watch their asses.

[Deleted]

This is one of the things that I hate about Ledger's Joker, you get all these goofs imitating the character instead of coming up with something original, and then getting angry when someone else rips off Ledger's Joker. You didn't do it first, Ledger did. Creativity is lacking.

[Krimzon]

Russo ripping something off?

[smokey1980]

I'm the first to criticize Russo on anything...but um, no.

Lemme get this straight. Crimson is ripping off the name while Sting is ripping off the gimmick? Crimson is another name for "Red". Crimson is Amazing Red's storyline brother. Hence Crimson. If anything, TNA is ripping off itself. And it's not like that is a super unique name.

As to the gimmick, this Krimson fellow is certainly not the first person to rip off the joker. I would guess there are dozens of lesser known Joker-wannabes on the Indy scene. You can't copyright a part of pop culture that you didn't even create.

[Crusty Ruffles]

It's one big "meh" that turned into another big "meh."

[Apricots And A Pear Tree]

Sting reminds me more of Jim Carry in The Mask,but I have not seen The Dark Knight so I maybe missing something.

[Krimzon]

Jul 3, 2011 16:33:02 GMT -5 Apricots And A Pear Tree said:

Sting reminds me more of Jim Carry in The Mask,but I have not seen The Dark Knight so I maybe missing something.

How is this even possible? How has anybody NOT seen the Dark Knight!? Go see that movie! NOW!

[SHAKEMASTER TV9 is Don Knotts]

Yeah, Sting seems more Jim Carrey than Joker. Maybe he's Riddler then.

[smokey1980]

Jul 3, 2011 16:33:02 GMT -5 Apricots And A Pear Tree said:

Sting reminds me more of Jim Carry in The Mask,but I have not seen The Dark Knight so I maybe missing something.

You must see it, more because it's awesome than because you'll see the basis of Sting's latest character. I'm not a comic book movie guy, but this one is good all around and stands on it's own, even if you've never seen any Batman films at all.

Interesting that you see some Jim Carry in there. I never would've thought of that. I think that may be due to Sting not being that great of an actor, and not being able to pull off Ledger's joker.

[Apricots And A Pear Tree]

Jul 3, 2011 16:35:18 GMT -5 Krimzon said:

Jul 3, 2011 16:33:02 GMT -5 Apricots And A Pear Tree said:

Sting reminds me more of Jim Carry in The Mask,but I have not seen The Dark Knight so I maybe missing something.

How is this even possible? How has anybody NOT seen the Dark Knight!? Go see that movie! NOW!

No.

[Deleted]

This more seems like the guys trying to get press

[Jim Stansel]

Jul 3, 2011 16:35:18 GMT -5 Krimzon said:

Jul 3, 2011 16:33:02 GMT -5 Apricots And A Pear Tree said:

Sting reminds me more of Jim Carry in The Mask,but I have not seen The Dark Knight so I maybe missing something.

How is this even possible? How has anybody NOT seen the Dark Knight!? Go see that movie! NOW!

at least it didnt remind you of the mask 2

[Krimzon]

Jul 3, 2011 16:39:12 GMT -5 Apricots And A Pear Tree said:

Jul 3, 2011 16:35:18 GMT -5 Krimzon said:

How is this even possible? How has anybody NOT seen the Dark Knight!? Go see that movie! NOW!

No.

Why? You said you may be missing something. If you see the Dark Knight, you won't be missing anything. You'll get it.

[Deleted]

Jul 3, 2011 16:39:12 GMT -5 Apricots And A Pear Tree said:

Jul 3, 2011 16:35:18 GMT -5 Krimzon said:

How is this even possible? How has anybody NOT seen the Dark Knight!? Go see that movie! NOW!

No.

Only watch it if you've got about a half day to kill. I swear that movie felt like it would never end. (Still good though. Just a little long for my taste).