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Post by Krimzon on Feb 27, 2012 17:06:32 GMT -5
No I get that part...although wasn't he lead in the latest Journey to the Center of the Earth or whatever movie? I was more what about the rest...not just a b-list actor. Ahh, sorry, I read that wrong. Yeah he was in the latest Journey movie but that seems more driven on the story and effects than actors. The Rock has been the leading man in whatever movie at least 10 times out of 19 movies. That sounds pretty good to me. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2012 17:10:50 GMT -5
Ah, the Rock's not really a pro-wrestler anymore. He's just a Hollywood Celeb to me now. Another one of the many B-List actors they try and feature to get a few more of the hoopleheads to watch WWE in the post-Attitude Era. They should make it a tag team match if you ask me. John Cena & D.J. Cotrona vs The Rock & RZA. The more "star power" the better. If you're not interested in the Rock vs Cena match, the invented the FFW button just for you. So, in one sentence, you say that you have no interest in seeing Rock because he's a "B-list actor." In another, you tell people to press fast forward if they're not interested in the Rock/Cena match. If you want people to listen to what you have to say, try not talking down to them. "Oh look, I used a term from an HBO show, aren't I the smartest person on this board". I don't get HBO, so I'm not sure what you're talking about. Also - I'm not sure how the two are related and I never said I didn't want to see the Rock wrestle, but that its best not to think of him as a wrestler. He's just a B-list actor (at best) who is being featured at Wrestlemania. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2012 17:11:54 GMT -5
Ah, the Rock's not really a pro-wrestler anymore. He's just a Hollywood Celeb to me now. Another one of the many B-List actors they try and feature to get a few more of the hoopleheads to watch WWE in the post-Attitude Era. They should make it a tag team match if you ask me. John Cena & D.J. Cotrona vs The Rock & RZA. The more "star power" the better. If you're not interested in the Rock vs Cena match, the invented the FFW button just for you. What? IC Champ, Tag Champ, 7-time WWE champ...just a B-list actor? Okay then..... I never said he was never a wrestler, but that he's not one NOW. He's an actor - he's said it himself plenty of times. People need to stop thinking of him as a wrestler. |
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Post by Cam on Feb 27, 2012 17:13:02 GMT -5
So, in one sentence, you say that you have no interest in seeing Rock because he's a "B-list actor." In another, you tell people to press fast forward if they're not interested in the Rock/Cena match. If you want people to listen to what you have to say, try not talking down to them. "Oh look, I used a term from an HBO show, aren't I the smartest person on this board". I don't get HBO, so I'm not sure what you're talking about. Also - I'm not sure how the two are related and I never said I didn't want to see the Rock wrestle, but that its best not to think of him as a wrestler. He's just a B-list actor (at best) who is being featured at Wrestlemania. But he is a wrestler. His career from 1995-2002 was wrestler. It's not like David Arquette "wrestling" two matches and winning the WCW World title, Rock wrestled week in week out for 7 years. He was a wrestler. In some ways, he still is a wrestler. He's not getting paid to act at WrestleMania, he's getting paid to wrestle. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2012 17:13:57 GMT -5
What? IC Champ, Tag Champ, 7-time WWE champ...just a B-list actor? Okay then..... Don't see him getting many if any leading man roles, he always seems to be in a movie where it's a great cast or more about the story than the actors. No, I'd agree that the Rock's the leading man most of the time, but "B-List" means that he usually does sci-fi, actiony stuff. Like he's not an A-lister like...Pitt or DiCaprio etc etc. |
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Post by Krimzon on Feb 27, 2012 17:14:38 GMT -5
He was a wrestler. In some ways, he still is a wrestler. He's not getting paid to act at WrestleMania, he's getting paid to wrestle. What's the difference?  |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2012 17:17:43 GMT -5
I don't get HBO, so I'm not sure what you're talking about. Also - I'm not sure how the two are related and I never said I didn't want to see the Rock wrestle, but that its best not to think of him as a wrestler. He's just a B-list actor (at best) who is being featured at Wrestlemania. But he is a wrestler. His career from 1995-2002 was wrestler. It's not like David Arquette "wrestling" two matches and winning the WCW World title, Rock wrestled week in week out for 7 years. He was a wrestler. In some ways, he still is a wrestler. He's not getting paid to act at WrestleMania, he's getting paid to wrestle. It seems like he's been getting paid to act more than wrestle. He was a wrestler at one time, he's not anymore. He's a special attraction who happens to be wrestling at this one show. I don't understand why everyone gets so tore up about this. The Rock himself would probably say that he's an actor now. He's doing this one-time special appearance to promote his movies and re-establish his adult audience for GI Joe Retaliation. Smart marketing move that any actor would kill for. |
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Post by Cam on Feb 27, 2012 17:20:56 GMT -5
But he is a wrestler. His career from 1995-2002 was wrestler. It's not like David Arquette "wrestling" two matches and winning the WCW World title, Rock wrestled week in week out for 7 years. He was a wrestler. In some ways, he still is a wrestler. He's not getting paid to act at WrestleMania, he's getting paid to wrestle. It seems like he's been getting paid to act more than wrestle. He was a wrestler at one time, he's not anymore. He's a special attraction who happens to be wrestling at this one show. I don't understand why everyone gets so tore up about this. The Rock himself would probably say that he's an actor now. He's doing this one-time special appearance to promote his movies and re-establish his adult audience for GI Joe Retaliation. Smart marketing move that any actor would kill for. So when Stone Cold Steve Austin appears, all you think about is that it's some D-list actor appearing on Raw? You don't think about the fact he's a multiple time WWF Champion, main evented several WrestleManias, won the Royal Rumble 3-time, busted his ass for 20 years. You just see him as some D-list actor on the same lines as Cedric the Entertainer and Verne Troyer? That sir, is ludicrous. |
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Post by Mayonnaise on Feb 27, 2012 17:21:28 GMT -5
Ahh, sorry, I read that wrong. Yeah he was in the latest Journey movie but that seems more driven on the story and effects than actors. The Rock has been the leading man in whatever movie at least 10 times out of 19 movies. That sounds pretty good to me. Really? Doesn't seem that way. Scorpion King, Rundown, Walking Tall, Tooth Fairy, Gridiron Gang and what else has been sold on his name alone? Seems like everything else he's been a part of has been in as a part of an ensemble, especially recently. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2012 17:23:45 GMT -5
It seems like he's been getting paid to act more than wrestle. He was a wrestler at one time, he's not anymore. He's a special attraction who happens to be wrestling at this one show. I don't understand why everyone gets so tore up about this. The Rock himself would probably say that he's an actor now. He's doing this one-time special appearance to promote his movies and re-establish his adult audience for GI Joe Retaliation. Smart marketing move that any actor would kill for. So when Stone Cold Steve Austin appears, all you think about is that it's some D-list actor appearing on Raw? You don't think about the fact he's a multiple time WWF Champion, main evented several WrestleManias, won the Royal Rumble 3-time, busted his ass for 20 years. You just see him as some D-list actor on the same lines as Cedric the Entertainer and Verne Troyer? That sir, is ludicrous. Austin has been much more involved with WWE so I see him as the host of Tough Enough right now, not so much a wrestler, but feel free to continue to put words in my mouth as I had a light lunch. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2012 17:25:31 GMT -5
But he is a wrestler. His career from 1995-2002 was wrestler. It's not like David Arquette "wrestling" two matches and winning the WCW World title, Rock wrestled week in week out for 7 years. He was a wrestler. In some ways, he still is a wrestler. He's not getting paid to act at WrestleMania, he's getting paid to wrestle. It seems like he's been getting paid to act more than wrestle. He was a wrestler at one time, he's not anymore. He's a special attraction who happens to be wrestling at this one show. I don't understand why everyone gets so tore up about this. The Rock himself would probably say that he's an actor now. He's doing this one-time special appearance to promote his movies and re-establish his adult audience for GI Joe Retaliation. Smart marketing move that any actor would kill for. Personally I think that considering the Rock will be wrestling that night then yeah, he's a wrestler. He's also an actor in the same time period. People can do more than one thing at a time in their lives, some people have two jobs, no one said I wasn't a sound engineer when I happened to be working in an office during my day job, his just happen to be bad-ass jobs to have. *shrug* I don't even know where this discussion came from but it's silly to say someone isn't x when they're currently reconditioning to do it again and did it a few months ago anyhow. I'm not sore about it, and I doubt most people are but it's such a 2D mindset to have and one that's prevalent in the wrestling community; you can't do more than one thing with your life or you give up your qualifications for past work/experiences. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2012 17:25:40 GMT -5
The Rock has been the leading man in whatever movie at least 10 times out of 19 movies. That sounds pretty good to me. Really? Doesn't seem that way. Scorpion King, Rundown, Walking Tall, Tooth Fairy, Gridiron Gang and what else has been sold on his name alone? Seems like everything else he's been a part of has been in as a part of an ensemble, especially recently. I'd say he was the leading man in Rundown and Walking Tall...probably the Tooth Fairy too, never saw that one. More recently though with Fast Five and GI Joe he's more of an ensemble guy. Big dude like that though, there's only so many roles he's going to get. |
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Post by Cam on Feb 27, 2012 17:25:56 GMT -5
So when Stone Cold Steve Austin appears, all you think about is that it's some D-list actor appearing on Raw? You don't think about the fact he's a multiple time WWF Champion, main evented several WrestleManias, won the Royal Rumble 3-time, busted his ass for 20 years. You just see him as some D-list actor on the same lines as Cedric the Entertainer and Verne Troyer? That sir, is ludicrous. Austin has been much more involved with WWE so I see him as the host of Tough Enough right now, not so much a wrestler, but feel free to continue to put words in my mouth as I had a light lunch. The Rock has wrestled more times than Steve Austin in the last 8 years. He's also appeared more times on Raw than Austin has in the past 3 years. The Rock is not a wrestler though. However, I'm sure Steve Austin is classified as so in your opinion. |
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Post by Krimzon on Feb 27, 2012 17:26:28 GMT -5
The Rock has been the leading man in whatever movie at least 10 times out of 19 movies. That sounds pretty good to me. Really? Doesn't seem that way. Scorpion King, Rundown, Walking Tall, Tooth Fairy, Gridiron Gang and what else has been sold on his name alone? Seems like everything else he's been a part of has been in as a part of an ensemble, especially recently. The Game Plan, Southland Tales, Race to Witch Mountain, Doom, & Faster. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2012 17:29:21 GMT -5
It seems like he's been getting paid to act more than wrestle. He was a wrestler at one time, he's not anymore. He's a special attraction who happens to be wrestling at this one show. I don't understand why everyone gets so tore up about this. The Rock himself would probably say that he's an actor now. He's doing this one-time special appearance to promote his movies and re-establish his adult audience for GI Joe Retaliation. Smart marketing move that any actor would kill for. Personally I think that considering the Rock will be wrestling that night then yeah, he's a wrestler. He's also an actor in the same time period. People can do more than one thing at a time in their lives, some people have two jobs, no one said I wasn't a sound engineer when I happened to be working in an office during my day job, his just happen to be bad-ass jobs to have. *shrug* I don't even know where this discussion came from but it's silly to say someone isn't x when they're currently reconditioning to do it again and did it a few months ago anyhow. I'm not sore about it, and I doubt most people are but it's such a 2D mindset to have and one that's prevalent in the wrestling community; you can't do more than one thing with your life. Hey I agree and if the Rock actually did both then I'd say he were a wrestler. What are we talking here, 95% acting/5% wrestling. He's an actor, come on. If I dug ditches 95% of my life and wrote 5% (even after writing successfully for a decade) - I'm a ditch digger, not a writer. If it were 50%/50%, heck even 70/30 in favor of wrestling could be debateable, but it is so blantantly obvious this is just a marketing move for the Rock as an actor. Not knocking the guy - I'd do the same thing to pull a bigger audience for a movie, but to think of him as a wrestler in this instance is just strange to me. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2012 17:31:08 GMT -5
Austin has been much more involved with WWE so I see him as the host of Tough Enough right now, not so much a wrestler, but feel free to continue to put words in my mouth as I had a light lunch. The Rock has wrestled more times than Steve Austin in the last 8 years. He's also appeared more times on Raw than Austin has in the past 3 years. The Rock is not a wrestler though. However, I'm sure Steve Austin is classified as so in your opinion. Hahaha, yes, you've summed it up perfectly even though I said in my previous post I don't consider him a wrestler right now. Come on man....if we're going to discuss something, actually try and engage in conversation. |
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Post by Mayonnaise on Feb 27, 2012 17:33:50 GMT -5
Really? Doesn't seem that way. Scorpion King, Rundown, Walking Tall, Tooth Fairy, Gridiron Gang and what else has been sold on his name alone? Seems like everything else he's been a part of has been in as a part of an ensemble, especially recently. The Game Plan, Southland Tales, Race to Witch Mountain, Doom, & Faster. Wow, haven't even heard of three of those. Forgot Doom and Race though. And I should say, I am not saying he's had a bad career or anything like that, just when I think of a Hollywood A Lister, I think of guys who movies are sold on. Like "Come see Brad Pitt or Leo DiCaprio" and everything else after that doesn't matter. Maybe it's just me but he doesn't seem like he's on that level yet. |
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Post by Cam on Feb 27, 2012 17:34:16 GMT -5
The Rock has wrestled more times than Steve Austin in the last 8 years. He's also appeared more times on Raw than Austin has in the past 3 years. The Rock is not a wrestler though. However, I'm sure Steve Austin is classified as so in your opinion. Hahaha, yes, you've summed it up perfectly even though I said in my previous post I don't consider him a wrestler right now. Come on man....if we're going to discuss something, actually try and engage in conversation. We're talking back and forth, on the same subject. That is a conversation. You clearly said that Austin and I quote "isn't so much a wrestler", which implies you think in some way he's still a wrestler. While The Rock you categorically defined as a B-list actor. Maybe this is just me "putting words in your mouth", but you seem to be classifying The Rock as such because he was successful at it and didn't appear in WWE for years while Steve Austin isn't classified as such because he is much less successful in his acting career and appeared quite a few times between 2005-2008. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2012 17:36:13 GMT -5
Hahaha, yes, you've summed it up perfectly even though I said in my previous post I don't consider him a wrestler right now. Come on man....if we're going to discuss something, actually try and engage in conversation. We're talking back and forth, on the same subject. That is a conversation. You clearly said that Austin and I quote "isn't so much a wrestler", which implies you think in some way he's still a wrestler. While The Rock you categorically defined as a B-list actor. Yeah, well "Not so much" means NOT A WRESTLER. Sorry if that idiom wasn't clear before, but I don't consider him a wrestler. |
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Post by Red Impact on Feb 27, 2012 17:36:51 GMT -5
I don't think there's any real definition of A-List or B-List. C and D you get more concrete, but the first two it's hard to really distinguish because, for the most part, you're talking about guys who are widely known and easily recognizable. I don't think it's unfair to call Rock a B-list actor, but I also don't think it's unfair to consider him an A-list actor depending on who you want to put in that company.
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