So why does no one talk about Rock burying people?

[Bub (BLM)]

Rock always buried people on the mic, that's what he did. He would then go into the match and put that person over like crazy. He once verbally buried the bejeezus out of Eddie Guerrero, then had a competitive 20 minute match where he sold like crazy for Eddie's offense.

[celticjobber]

Triple H buries people on the mic, then usually buries them in the ring too. The Rock was always humorous in his approach as well. While Trips is usually very serious when he's dismissing an opponent on the mic.

[lez 3:16]

we should ask jericho,angle,brock,hurricane,goldberg,cena cause rock is gonna put him over and rvd went over him clean once. (i've got no idea why no one talks about him burying guys)

[alabastergrim]

Seriously?

I'm not even the biggest Rock fan in the world or anything but he definitely didn't bury people. If Billy Gunn had anything resembling promo ability he could've recovered from that comment and Rikishi's heel turn could've easily worked if it didn't ridiculously come out of left field. At that point Rock was right, Kishi's motivation was nuts and the week before he was a thong wearing fatty. What really buried Rikishi there was WWE having Triple H come out and bascically say "I told him to do it"

[MrBRulzOK]

Because the guy really didn't "bury" anyone. Heck, as people mentioned the guy put over The Hurricane of all people.

[Jedi-El of Tomorrow]

Nov 5, 2011 21:27:35 GMT -5 Cronant said:

Nov 5, 2011 21:24:05 GMT -5 @sigmax said:

The Rock did not berrie Booker-T.

It always goes back to it but booker got berried by HHH when he feuded and lost to him at WM19...it took a whole new gimmick and a heel turn to get booker back to legit main eventer status , what The Rock did was nothing different than what he usually does to any other superstar....hell Stephanie got it worse from The Rock numerous times and she was never worse for wear.

Booker was one of the top heels at the beginning of the Invasion. Hell, other than the authority figures, he WAS the big heel until Austin turned.

Then The Rock comes back and says "who the blue hell are you?", negating everything. Beats him twice on PPV, once in a handicap match, and Booker is never on that level for a while.

It was so bad Sting pointed out that promo is a reason why he never went to WWE.

Rock said "Who in the blue hell are you?" to everybody.

And Booker wasn't going to beat Rock at SummerSlam. That was The Rock's return, he had to win. And like has been said Booker still was a big part of the show, it wasn't a burial. It was one guy winning the feud, and really for as over as Booker was, the fans demanded Rock go over Booker.

[Snaptastic]

Nov 6, 2011 0:06:46 GMT -5 Mozenrath said:

Tunnel vision and rosey retrospective.

Or the fact he didn't bury anybody.

[Dean-o]

I never understood the whole burial argument when it came to promos. These guys are fighting each other, of course they're going to insult the hell out of each other. If I was fighting Rikishi, you damn sure I would make fun of his stupid outfit.

Look at what boxers say to each other. No one on ESPN says "oh no, Manny really made his opponent look weak. No one will take him seriously again"

[Totorob101]

He put over more people then other main eventers.I cant understand the mentality of main event talent always buries other talent,i mean people always complain about Taker,Triple H,Cena,Hogan,Stone Cold and such,these guys who drew money and were key guys to the company,its as if people just constantley expect them to lose to midcarders and all.Heck Triple H put Shelton Benjamin over several times clean didnt he? But people forget that,Hogan put warrior over clean,Stone Cold did job to Triple H,Cenas been pinned clean by Justin Gabriel before,Rock has been pinned clean numerous times..

[Jimmy]

Nov 5, 2011 22:32:12 GMT -5 Bob Schlapowitz said:

Probably for the same reason people don't talk about Steve Austin playing politics just as much as Hogan and the Kliq.

I wouldn't say it was just as much, far from it really. He didn't want to work with Owen in any form after their feud blowoff, which sucks but I can understand it. Besides that at the height of his popularity in 99 he didn't want to work with Jeff Jarrett and Billy Gunn. And while yeah model employees do what is asked of them, Austin realized that these two were not main event material. Gunn's feud with the Rock then proved that.

And I know it's popular folklore but everything I've heard since disproves the 'Austin didn't want to job to HHH at SummerSlam' theory, as Austin was dealing with his injury issues (he proceeded to talk the next several weeks off, not even competing at the next PPV) and they wanted a babyface to have his hand raised by Ventura. Plus he did then proceed to put HHH over at No Mercy.

[________ has left the building]

Because he's not Triple H.

[TGM]

Cutting a promo on how much you think your opponent sucks is what pro wrestling is.

People are far too quick to use the term buried.

[Citizen Snips]

Roddy Piper viciously insulted every opponent he ever faced with only Hogan and Andre being allowed to come back on him and didn't lose a match a clean for like a decade. Let's string him up too!

Again, it boils down to Triple H burying his opponents' ability, not their gimmick/personality.

[diegorivera]

Rock could be pretty harsh with his promos, but it forced his opponents to up their game. Even a guy like Cena, who's no match for Rocky on the stick can at least hold his own and not look like a total fool. Gunn couldn't do that and with the way the match was booked, (Gunn loosing and getting his head shoved into some fat chick's ass,) he looked like every bit the loser Rock said he was, but that's on the bookers, not Rock.

All top stars play politics. Some like Rock, Angle or Cena aren't too detrimental, (Cena's politics aren't detrimental anyway; he's gone to bat for guys like Ryder and Bryan. It's just the writers still book him in a detrimental way.) Some like Austin have really used their powers to get their way and in Austin's case, walked out when they didn't get it. But Stone Cold also put over in one way or another the likes of Rock, Angle, Foley, Jericho and even HHH himself.

In HHH's case he's put over buddies of his and lost at a decent number of Wrestlemanias, but he tends to just drain the heat off of anyone he deals with, even unintentionally at times. Only guys like Austin, Rock and Cena have come off a feud with HHH better for it and even when he's beat, HHH never allows himself to come off as conquered or utterly beaten. Even Cena has done that, (it never lasts long enough for anyone to appreciate it, but he's done it.)

[Ben Wyatt]

It was Gunn's first one-on-one feud post KOTR. The Rock's usual spiel on the mic would have been fine, except Gunn was NEVER presented as a legit threat.

Rock beat him pretty convincingly in their ONE PPV match. The end

["Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay]

That promo against Rikishi was the same promo in which he accused Kurt Angle, the champion and eventual winner of the match he was cutting the promo about, of taking two viagra before his matches.

Really hurt Kurt's chances.

God knows Mick Foley never recovered from The Rock's insults either.

[Sephiroth]

The Rock did bury some people, no doubt. But by all account he was not the sort of schemer who INTENTIONALLY buried people to keep his spot at the top of the card. He even had feuds with a few mid-carders and raised no protest about it. Some other names throughout history *coughHOGANcough* are notorious for going out of their way to shove other stars out of the spotlight just so they could stay at the top of the card. Frankly, compare Hogan's WCW time to The Rock feuding with Hurricane.

[mjolnir]

Yeah, there's a difference between burying traits of a character or flat out making stuff up, like the Rock does. And burying the person, like others have done.

Most of the negative stuff can be chalked up to either the booking team or the fact that the person in question just never had it in them to be a star.

Pretty much any of his negative impact is easily out shadowed by all the positive impact he had. Like others have mentioned, Rock was always willing to put others over, and even had to argue his case a few times. He put tag teams over, he put lower card guys over.

That's really the big difference between Cena's overcoming the odds spiel and Rock's overcoming the odds spiel. I can't tell you how many times a RAW or Smackdown ended with the Rock laid out, staring/glaring up at his foe or looking like he's lost everything already. There was a sense that Rock was screwed, this was helped by JR's announcing putting it over too admittedly. Point is, Rock didn't always wins, so it seemed far more likely he'd get overwhelmed by the odds stacked against him.

They're so afraid of damaging Cena as goods he pretty much dominates everything, and so there's little doubt he'll overcome the odds. When's the last time Cena really got beaten down & made to look inferior? Last time I can really remember a sense of doubt being put into his booking was the Nexus beatdown and that was eight guys attacking him.

[Cyno]

Another week, another thread that grossly misuses the term "buried."

[baerrtt]

Contrary to what some are saying the Rock did make fun of some of his opponents wrestling shortcomings. The punchlines of both the Billy Gunn and Big Slow promos are that they both sucked in the ring and when those aired I recall them grabbing my attention because it was the first time I heard a WWF main eventer using a guy's lack of ring skills as an insult.