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Post by TK The Friendly Robot on Mar 8, 2013 17:55:26 GMT -5
What are some opinions that you have on the wrestling business that you think might be unpopular among other fans? It can be anything from not liking a certain fan favorite to thinking that someone should be champion, come on FAN, spill your guts!
I'll start with:
1) CM Punk is terrible and he has no credibility left to make it seem feasible that he can beat The Undertaker and end the streak.
2) Ken Shamrock should have been WWF champion, they really shouldn't have given up on him as he would have worked at the top of the card.
3) TNA is the best wrestling promotion overall at the moment.
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Post by dlg3000 on Mar 8, 2013 18:30:32 GMT -5
1) TNA is fun to watch but boring at times, yet I have always liked TNA/IW. 2) Aces and 8s may go the way of the NWO, and not in a good way. 3) I am still holding out hope for Velvet Sky to improve her wrestling. 4) I am still holiding out hope for the WWE to extend the Divas' Time past five minutes per 3 hour show.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2013 19:08:49 GMT -5
1) I wish Tensai had a Mark Henry-esque push. Oh and a better name.
2) Puroresu is more enjoyable to watch over than the WWE, TNA, Indies ATM, IMO.
3) The new WWE belt looks great.
4) Really like Cena ATM. Even when he's cutting ludicrous promos. Oh and that Sheamus fella.
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Post by Starshine on Mar 8, 2013 19:16:08 GMT -5
- I liked the Lord Tensai gimmick. But I hated how it was presented.
- The Miz being a former WWE Champion and main eventing Wrestlemania was a real low point for WWE.
- When I watch WWE, I want wrestling. No crappy dialogues, shitty backstage skits, or "comedy." Keep the stories outside the ring simple and give me quality in the ring.
- 3 hour RAW's are impossible to watch.
- Cena needs to go away. Turning heel won't change the fact I don't want to see him anymore. I want him gone.
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Post by hitch on Mar 8, 2013 19:34:48 GMT -5
Jim Ross was biased 'homer' that put over his boys at the expense of others and should have been yanked from television announcing years before he was.
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Post by Wolf Hurricane on Mar 8, 2013 19:46:28 GMT -5
- Ted DiBiase does not get anywhere near as much play as he should. Charisma vacuum he may be, he's easily one of the sharpest workers in the WWE.
- The WWE seriously dropped the ball not giving Jamie Keys or Aloisia a serious shot. Keys worked pretty well (certainly better than "I am sexy foreigner that not speak English" Aksana), even if she wasn't the most exciting chick. She could've easily been given a powerhouse gimmick. Aloisia wasn't even given a first chance; with some proper training, she could have probably been an awesome asset to the division.
- I just don't plain care for the Rock. Never have, never will.
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Post by Jimichiro Likes Erick Rowan on Mar 8, 2013 20:00:18 GMT -5
This'll ruffle some feathers - I don't buy CM Punk at all having a chance against The Undertaker because he doesn't pose a physical threat to The Undertaker. You could absolutely make the arguement "well in a shoot Punk could probably kick Taker's old ass" or talk about little guys KO'ing big guys all the time. The difference is kayfabe. I buy Phil Brooks snapping Mark Calaway's knees or hips in a shoot fight, but no way in hell does CM Punk do that to The Undertaker.
I really don't think ratings mean what they used to, especially when thre's so many other ways to watch shows. WWE & TNA should be more concerned with house show & TV taping attendance than ratings IMO.
I hate that the brand split has pretty much died. Even worse is that WWE does what they always do when they want something gone - they half-ass phasing it out rather than try to make an angle (and maybe some money) off ot it.
The Ruthless Aggression era (specifically, the start of the brand split until the passing of Eddie Guerrero) was probably my favorite time to be a fan of WWE.
I get really annoyed when people react to the WWF logo blurring like it's the end of the world. Sure, on one hand I wouldn't give up my unblurred, undoctored DVD's of WM 17 & 18. And I'd certainly prefer to have footage that doesn't have blurred logos. But if you're watching a truly memorable moment that took place from 1997-2002 and ALL you think about is "damn I hate that the logos are blurred out," then that memorable moment didn't mean that much to you in the first place. Like I said, it's annoying, but I don't even notice it anymore.
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Post by slappy on Mar 8, 2013 20:01:11 GMT -5
Gigantic Kevin Nash and HHH fan and would put them in my top 3 all time (Number 1 goes to Ric Flair).
I enjoyed the "reign of terror."
Will always be a Miz fan no matter how bad his character gets.
2011 was one of my favorite years in wrestling (WWE wise).
(Not that I see any opposition to this or really anyone talking about it at all) Ernie Ladd should have held the WWWF title and Paul Orndorff should have beat Hogan for the WWF title.
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Post by TK The Friendly Robot on Mar 8, 2013 20:02:21 GMT -5
I really don't think ratings mean what they used to, especially when thre's so many other ways to watch shows. WWE & TNA should be more concerned with house show & TV taping attendance than ratings IMO. I hate that the brand split has pretty much died. Even worse is that WWE does what they always do when they want something gone - they half-ass phasing it out rather than try to make an angle (and maybe some money) off ot it. The Ruthless Aggression era (specifically, the start of the brand split until the passing of Eddie Guerrero) was probably my favorite time to be a fan of WWE. I'd like to add all of these to my list as well, 100% agree.
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Post by YiHammer on Mar 8, 2013 20:04:31 GMT -5
ITT: People don't know what unpopular means
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Post by TK The Friendly Robot on Mar 8, 2013 20:08:56 GMT -5
ITT: People don't know what unpopular means What are some opinions that you have on the wrestling business that you think might be unpopular among other fans? It's subjective.
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Post by dlg3000 on Mar 8, 2013 20:09:36 GMT -5
-I hate the Zeb Coulter/Jack Swagger v Alberto del Rio feud. There are a lot of great feud elements such as heat and what not, but I don't like where the feud is headed, yet. The whole thing makes me cringe.
-Sakimoto should have never been introduced along with Tensai. He was the weak link that brought down the Tensai gimmick in the first place.
- JBL was the last great heel the WWE's had in a long time.
- I like Vampiro though I have learned more and more that he is or was truly a jerk.
-I also like Hulk Hogan and the Ultimate Warrior, but I am starting to like Ric Flair less and less.
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Post by celticjobber on Mar 8, 2013 20:21:20 GMT -5
I'm looking forward to Rock/Cena 2, and I thought their segment on RAW was the best they've ever had since their feud began.
RAW sucks a bit more since AJ is no longer a big focus of the show. I miss her as the RAW GM.
Even though Velvet Sky sucks at wrestling, and couldn't cut a good promo if her life depended on it -- she's usually the highlight of TNA Impact for me. Mostly because of her ass. ;D
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2013 20:22:47 GMT -5
- I think that Jim Ross sucks, and always has sucked.
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Mar 8, 2013 20:28:31 GMT -5
Terry Taylor isn't someone I like that much but he did get one thing right, it doesn't matter what you do in the middle of the match, the only pop that means anything is the pop for the ending.
If you burn the crowd out in a match with spots and moves to the point where there's no pop for the ending, then the match isn't actually that good.
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Post by Cesaro Smirk on Mar 8, 2013 20:37:45 GMT -5
1. I enjoyed WSX because I got to see non-mainstream wrestlers for the first time ever like Vampiro, Jack Evans, Matt Sydal, etc. Sure it was gimmicky but I thought the action was great.
2. I never liked the Rock though I appreciated that he may have been the reason WWE has gotten to be a tad more edgy since he's been back. I was in the Rocky Sucks camp in his heyday.
3. I like all the dancing on my wrestling shows. We don't need more, I just wouldn't want to lose it altogether.
4. Orlando Jordan was under-appreciated and his bi gimmick could have succeeded if not for them making him into a freakshow instead.
5. I cannot stand the barbie/model search type "wrestlers". If they want to use these types of females, them make them valets. I don't care to see them flop around hopelessly.
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Mar 8, 2013 20:39:29 GMT -5
I'm looking forward to Rock/Cena 2, and I thought their segment on RAW was the best they've ever had since their feud began. Have to agree with this. That segment they had on Raw was easily their best one-on-one by a country mile.
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Post by Sam Punk on Mar 8, 2013 20:40:06 GMT -5
John Cena is the greatest pro wrestler of all time. Paul Bearer belongs in the hall of fame. AJ needs to be featured more on Raw. Regal was best during his "real man's man" gimmick.
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Post by dlg3000 on Mar 8, 2013 21:07:47 GMT -5
-Ric Flair is who I grew up with, but he is actually overrated. -Sting is one of the most underrated wrestlers ever. -Dusty Rhodes is a great performer and legend no doubt, but a horrible and limited wrestler. -AJ Lee needs to wrestle more. She is becoming more and more useless as DZ's "Girlfriend/girl in his corner." -I still like the Straight Edge CM Punk Heel. This CM Punk heel seems a bit contrived. -I like Jerry the King Lawler and think that he can still be entertaining even as a face commentator. -Taz and Tenay aren't that horrible, but Tazz could tone it down and quit making jokes. Taz and Tenay just have little chemistry but the third guy (don't know his name right off) is what TNA needed for commentary. -I liked Jeff Jarrett in the USA in TNA and in the WWE in 1996, but in Mexico he and Karen are awesome and Karen is far less annoying there.
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Post by Brian Suntan on Mar 8, 2013 21:13:15 GMT -5
Wrestling, in and of itself and for its own sake, is boring and pointless. Context is everything, and it's the storylines that make it worth watching.
I'd be perfectly content if I never saw another women's wrestling match in my life.
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