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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Mar 9, 2013 14:13:57 GMT -5
* I'm glad there is no wrestlers union. I have no interest in $100 PPV's and the likes of Bob Holly holding the world title based simply on seniority. . Do we even know if that's what would've happened? Bob Holly isn't World Title material, but I do think he's underrated and should've at least been an IC, US, or European Champion
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Post by Andrew is Good on Mar 9, 2013 14:21:02 GMT -5
Daniel Bryan is the most overrated wrestler of all time. I want him off my TV and I especially want the fanboys to stop praising every little f***ing thing he has done or ever will do. Good to see we can remain civil here Stuff like this always seems to be uncivil, at times anyway. Anyway, here's mine, haha. Sometimes opinions don't matter when it comes to the bottom line. Take the dislike of John Cena vs The Rock at Wrestlemania. It's the best match, not because of my opinion, but one could make a logical argument that it would be the best match, no matter what. What is the best for drawing money is the best route to go. Triple threat matches aren't the same as a one on one match, due to the attention that is taken away by having that one extra guy. This is why it's bad to have Cena vs Rock vs Punk, because it takes away from the main story of Cena finally facing off against the Rock. That as well I want to get to. The match really was a Once in a Lifetime type of match, because you can only see the first epic match between two stars like Cena once in a lifetime. But yes, lastly, and most importantly. Sometimes opinions can be wrong. You can feel a certain way, but you have to look at how the crowd reacts to that person, whether they're bringing in money, etc.
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Post by Dave the Dave on Mar 9, 2013 14:30:38 GMT -5
I don't like ric flair and never have
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Post by slappy on Mar 9, 2013 14:35:20 GMT -5
Here is another one. Indy women should have a separate pic thread just like the WWE and TNA women have separate threads. Sorry but I don't want to see 20 different pictures of Portia Perez on the same page while looking through the indy pic thread.
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Post by dlg3000 on Mar 9, 2013 14:58:57 GMT -5
- Fandango is getting on my nerves. Why doesn't he just wrestle already? - I find Sin Cara boring. He was so much more exciting as Mistico . - I like the "What?" chants and I don't find them irritating. - I used to find Kane a total bore, but he has finally found his niche with Daniel Bryan. - Eric Young is one of if not the greatest actor and overall entertainer in wrestling right now. Plus he is truly underrated. - Buddy Roberts (RIP) was one of the most underrated heels ever. - I thought AJ skipping to the ring when she was GM was actually quite funny. - Wade Barrett is an okay wrestler, but still needs some work. - I don't mind a little T&A in wrestling, but the shameless shots and how the women are sometimes used can be pretty degrading and cringeworthy. - There are times when the men are too degraded. The Kiss My A*@ Club for starters.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Mar 9, 2013 15:37:26 GMT -5
* I'm glad there is no wrestlers union. I have no interest in $100 PPV's and the likes of Bob Holly holding the world title based simply on seniority. . Bob Holly got a main event push no-one wanted already and the way the WWE are raising prices, Wrestlemania will be $100 within the next 5 years, all without a wrestler's union.
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Post by Glitch on Mar 9, 2013 16:47:18 GMT -5
Triple H is a glorified jobber. I don't just mean the Reign of Terror, I mean his career in general. Him being in DX was his career being on borrowed time. If he hadn't married steph, he'd probably would have been in the same place as Tatanka and Doink,selling his autograph at conventions, and probably a short lived contract on tna(as some backstage guy).
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Post by bones88 on Mar 9, 2013 16:52:54 GMT -5
the only opinion of mine that I know is unpopular is I would have liked a austin/jarrett fued although its mostly because I've always asumed it would involve debra somehow and even though im a big jarrett fan I love the idea of austin beating the crap out of him and taking debra
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Mar 9, 2013 18:26:29 GMT -5
- Ziggler's extremely talented, but he's long overdue for a face turn because he plays a piss poor heel. And I don't even think it's the booking's fault, his matches are way too babyface-like with him selling everything like a gunshot and his desperation moves.
- I like Cena's mugging and goofball promos. He just looks like he's having tons of fun out there.
- James Storm should drop the superkick. Even HHH's looked better.
- I love Roderick Strong's matches, but he'd be a more complete package if he could work on his body language and expressions. He (and maybe some other guys) should study Hogan in his prime, he was a master.
- CM Punk's a legend and deservedly so. That doesn't necesarily mean he HAS to be the face of WWE- he's been treated pretty well by them, all things considered.
- WWF blew a huge opportunity not giving Bam Bam Bigelow a main event run in 1993. Yoko wasn't bad, but you can't tell me the Beast From The East wouldn't have torn the house down.
- Savage was a great face commentator.
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Mar 9, 2013 18:38:33 GMT -5
To add to the Jim Cornette point from earlier, most of the "feuds" he's in are only as bad as they are because he doesn't know how to settle anything like an adult. Even if he's right(which he is in most cases) he ends up making things much worse than they need to be with his childish, obnoxious behavior.
You can't blame Terry Taylor for reporting your e-mail when you personally threatened members of the TNA staff. You shouldn't respond to a business problem with Kevin Dunn with "F*** you and your beaver f****** teeth".
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Mar 9, 2013 18:53:09 GMT -5
-X-Pac heat is most certainly a real thing, but I don't think it applies to Sean Waltman anymore. in fact it's a shame that it's all most people remember him for. -WWE does a lot already to help its older workers, and they have every right to not help those who they feel snake-bitten by in that regard (e.g. Janetty, Sunny). you can only try to help someone so many times before you have to throw in the towel and give up on them. -I could go my whole life never seeing Roddy Piper again, and he's one of my all time favorites. -while WWE has booked Cody Rhodes terribly since Wrestlemania, he hasn't exactly given them a reason to renew his push, either. -WWE needs to shit or get off the pot about Randy Orton. if they don't feel comfortable pushing him anymore, then just fire him and give his spot to someone else. otherwise, for the love of god push him because the fans still love him regardless of his misdeeds. as is he's just taking up space. -Eric Bischoff's a very under-rated heel. the only guy who did "evil authority figure" better was Vince, and unless someone can top at least Eric the concept should just be benched. -Vince Russo has a certifiably insane definition of "entertaining" but I always thought at the very least he comes off as a much nicer person than most people in the industry. -it's a crying shame that most people's perception of Tony Schiavone is based entirely on his last 3 years in WCW because in his prime he was every bit as good as JR. -speaking of JR, much like Piper I have no desire to hear his voice ever again, and I say this as a guy who loved good ole' JR back in the day.
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Post by azrael502 on Mar 9, 2013 18:54:40 GMT -5
I liked the Reign of Terror. i dont think this is an unpopular opinion a lot of ppl share it
Scott Steiner Rules and needs to be on TV
Cm Punk meh
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Post by dlg3000 on Mar 9, 2013 19:00:37 GMT -5
-X-Pac heat is most certainly a real thing, but I don't think it applies to Sean Waltman anymore. in fact it's a shame that it's all most people remember him for. -WWE does a lot already to help its older workers, and they have every right to not help those who they feel snake-bitten by in that regard (e.g. Janetty, Sunny). you can only try to help someone so many times before you have to throw in the towel and give up on them. -I could go my whole life never seeing Roddy Piper again, and he's one of my all time favorites. -while WWE has booked Cody Rhodes terribly since Wrestlemania, he hasn't exactly given them a reason to renew his push, either. -WWE needs to s*** or get off the pot about Randy Orton. if they don't feel comfortable pushing him anymore, then just fire him and give his spot to someone else. otherwise, for the love of god push him because the fans still love him regardless of his misdeeds. as is he's just taking up space. -Eric Bischoff's a very under-rated heel. the only guy who did "evil authority figure" better was Vince, and unless someone can top at least Eric the concept should just be benched. -Vince Russo has a certifiably insane definition of "entertaining" but I always thought at the very least he comes off as a much nicer person than most people in the industry. -it's a crying shame that most people's perception of Tony Schiavone is based entirely on his last 3 years in WCW because in his prime he was every bit as good as JR. -speaking of JR, much like Piper I have no desire to hear his voice ever again, and I say this as a guy who loved good ole' JR back in the day. JR is good, but Tony Schiavone was awesome back in the day. So, I agree with you. -I for one liked David Crockett and he wasn't really that bad. The team consisted of guys like Bob Caudle, Tony Schiavone, and Johnny Weaver over the years. So I can understand why there are people who think he isn't good.
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Post by TK The Friendly Robot on Mar 9, 2013 19:07:03 GMT -5
- Scott Norton was a beast of a man and should have found himself further up the card, in a Ryback-esque sometimes title contender position. WWE should have picked him up when they bought WCW.
- Same as above but with Mike Awesome, however I feel like Awesome could and should have been a fully fledged main eventer and world champion. He should have had his moment on top.
- Todd Grisham and Matt Striker were the best commentary team the WWE ever had since JR/King (at their peak) and they should be at the booth still today. Sadly they aren't.
- I think Raw/Smackdown should be consolidated unless they are going to end the supershows at some point. If not then Smackdown's TV time should go to NXT.
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Post by The Doctor on Mar 9, 2013 19:36:33 GMT -5
- World Championships changing hands often, being put on the 'wrong' people, not main eventing shows and even opening shows does NOT devalue them. So long as people want to win them they are valuable. And, by and large, WWE get this right.
- John Cena is the best professional wrestler in the world and in the top 5 of all time.
- Randy Orton is one of the most talented in ring performers in the world.
- I like PG. When it is good it is awesome and allows for things that were commonplace(blood and suchlike) to feel shocking and exciting again. Also when it is bad it is merely boring rather than cringe-inducingly horrible as was the case pre-PG (ie Katie Vick)
- I like Divas wrestling and think the current division has the basis to be very successful if WWE marketed it right.
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Post by Savage Gambino on Mar 9, 2013 19:47:39 GMT -5
Christian was a better wrestler, a better mic worker, and had better gravitas than Edge ever did. The only reason Edge beat him into the big time is because Matt Hardy completely f***ed himself and Vince McMahon likes to benefit off of other people's misery. Never mind that Lita's one-of-a-kind, close to groundbreaking career ended on a low note due to 13-year-old marks who can't tell the difference between fact and fiction; when Vince saw the buzz Matt/Edge caused, the sound of cash registers cha-chinging in his head gave him a Pavlovian erection for about a year.
To that note, Edge only made it into the Hall of Fame when he did due to the circumstances of his retirement. He lucked into the Hall of Fame just like he lucked into the main event. And I say all of this as an Edge fan who actually enjoyed the feud with John Cena.
Also, I'm completely meh on Maryse Ouellet. She's hot, I'll say that much, but people talk about her like she's HOF-worthy. She's a tanned hot blonde with fake breasts from a whole class of tanned hot blondes with fake breasts. If you tried describing her without referencing her nationality, the description would probably fit about a quarter of all of WWE's female alumni.
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Post by britstap on Mar 9, 2013 19:55:09 GMT -5
-Sunny in her prime was nothing more than a more vocal, annoying, blonde-haired version of Miss Elizabeth, without the class. She had no memorable iconic moments (unless you count her getting 'slopped' by the Godwins),and her only real claim to fame is being the most downloaded woman on the Internet. 17 years ago. Terribly overrated IMO. -Hated Undertaker's Biker gimmick from start to finish. -I actually REALLY like WrestleMania 9. -Never have, and never will get the obsession with AJ. -Didn't have a problem with Orton beating Christian for the title, I've always been "Meh" on Christian, anyway.
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Post by TK The Friendly Robot on Mar 9, 2013 20:06:52 GMT -5
-Sunny in her prime was nothing more than a more vocal, annoying, blonde-haired version of Miss Elizabeth, without the class. She had no memorable iconic moments (unless you count her getting 'slopped' by the Godwins),and her only real claim to fame is being the most downloaded woman on the Internet. 17 years ago. Terribly overrated IMO. -Never have, and never will get the obsession with AJ. I completely agree with these two, 100%.
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Post by drjayphd (feat. Pitbull) on Mar 9, 2013 22:08:06 GMT -5
* We need to give DDP the benefit of the doubt as a life coach. Do we have any reason to believe he won't spend the money from the Scott Hall fundraiser to pay for his surgeries, etc.? * Jack Swagger doesn't deserve to be depushed for his arrest, and far too many of the people calling for him to get dropped from the Wrestlemania title match said so because they just don't like him as a performer. * My dick goes to yoga. Yo dick? Fruit roll-up. * Even though I haven't seen them in action (no cable), people crap on Aces and Eights way too much. Blame TNA's execution, timing, whatever, but there's nothing wrong with the gimmick or the membership.
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Post by Malcolm on Mar 10, 2013 1:02:47 GMT -5
*Just because you're not in WWE doesn't mean that you don't matter.
*In fact, just because you're not WWE doesn't mean you don't matter. It's almost as if people WANT WWE to have a monopoly.
*Women's wrestling shouldn't die. I say that because I like making female caws in my games(and they aren't eye candy, either)
*Never cared much for CM Punk. In fact I find nearly everything about him obnoxious(the way he looks, the way he sounds, the way he acts, the way he wrestles...). Almost to the point where I want to kick him square in the balls if I had the chance. He annoys me that much.
*I miss cartoony gimmicks such as IRS, Doink the Clown, Ultimate Warrior, etc. I grow weary of guy in trunks with generic name # 1, Guy in trunks with generic name # 2, Guy in trunks with generic name and tattoos, guy with generics trunks with generic names and a moustache, etc and so forth.
*In spite of being pushed like Superman I still find John Cena entertaining in a "so bad he's good" kind of way.
*I don't hate Sheamus either for the same reason.
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