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Post by Mushroomhead on Jun 17, 2013 12:49:53 GMT -5
I posted a moderately controversial thread a few months ago about how I felt that Ryback was being booked like a "bitch." In this thread, some of y'all agreed with me, others disagreed (some quite vocally), and others were in the middle. Two months later, let's take another look at Ryback's shortcomings: - Despite being "above the midcard", Ryback's biggest wins are against Kane and D-Bry, Ziggler, and heel ADR. After eight months in the uppercard, he's yet to beat a main-eventer in one-on-one competition.
- Ryback wound up looking like a chump against the Shield, being bitched out to no end. He spent months being their primary adversary only to turn tail when Roman Showers speared him through the fourth dimension.
- Even though all three losses were shady, he never beat CM Punk or get revenge on Punk. Additionally, he failed to get revenge against the Shield-- the reason why he lost two of the three bouts against Punk.
- Despite tough talk and an impressive showing, Ryback failed to win the Royal Rumble.
- After a month of build, Ryback lost in quick, clean fashion to an ailing Mark Henry. The Shellshock post match isn't enough to make up for that loss.
- Despite getting a massive "European" pop for turning on Cena on the post-Mania show, WWE pushed him as a meathead heel instead of as an intense tweener.
- Once Ryback turned, he lost most of what made him... him. Instead of taking the tough guy road and facing Cena as a "formidable foe", he was made out to be a pussy by complaining about no one defending him from the Shield. He did have a valid point, but this was a total 180 from "I lack a frontal lobe! FIGHT! FIGHT! FEED ME" Ryback. To top off the shit sundae, he turned into a chickenshit heel who'd back away from any fight that didn't look like a squash.
- As a heel, he couldn't put away Chris Jericho (an upper mid carder who weighs 60+ pounds less).
- In the same vein, he couldn't put down Daniel Bryan AFTER Bryan had fought in a tag match against the Shield. He had to resort to getting DQ'd.
- His feud with Cena went nowhere. Cena wound up making relatively quick work of Ryback at Payback last night, which leaves Ryback without a reason to demand a rematch.
- After all of this, he hasn't earned a single title in WWE as either Ryback or Skip Sheffield.
- The mean ol' WWE Universe nearly drove him to tears with their "Cryback" taunts.
- HE JUST TAPPED OUT TO MIZ'S THIGH KICKS
- For whatever reason, he resorted to the wimpy heel tactic of faking/exaggerating a knee injury to fool Chris Jericho, who is 60 pounds lighter than him.
- Despite having the physical and psychological edges over Jericho, Ryback couldn't beat him decisively (roll-up). Bear in mind, Chris Jericho got put down for the count by Crispy Hexagons a week after Money in the Bank
- After Vickie Guerrero was fired as RAW GM, Ryback revealed a soft spot of his by hugging it out with her.
- Ryback could not manage to put away Daniel Bryan (who, I admit, should be made to look good going into Summerslam) on RAW yesterday evening after Daniel Bryan had had two grueling matches. Instead, he resorted to getting himself disqualified and then got his metaphorical wigsplit by John Cena
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Post by Sparkybob on Jun 17, 2013 12:56:14 GMT -5
Didn't he pinned D-bryan a couple of times?
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Post by Mushroomhead on Jun 17, 2013 12:59:52 GMT -5
Didn't he pinned D-bryan a couple of times? Whoops! That he did! |
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Post by mrjl on Jun 17, 2013 13:10:49 GMT -5
He also decisively beat Meiz while Miz was IC champ and kicked Antonio Cesaro's during the top of his push
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Post by MGH on Jun 17, 2013 13:13:08 GMT -5
Can he possibly go even FURTHER downhill? I'd quite enjoy that.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Jun 17, 2013 13:14:11 GMT -5
He also pinned Cena last night. Yeah he didn't win the match but he does hold a pitfall over Cena officially.
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Post by They Killed the Giggler on Jun 17, 2013 13:15:36 GMT -5
He also decisively beat MEIZ while Miz was IC champ and kicked Antonio Cesaro's during the top of his push Handicap match against Meiz and Rice Flair. |
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Post by The Ichi on Jun 17, 2013 13:17:42 GMT -5
Honestly, with Punk back, Bryan on the rise and The Shield members edging closer to a main event run, I think a Ryback title run is in jeopardy anyway.
It sounds weird to type that, but it's true. I think we're finally past the era of people getting pushed just due to their size. And I like Ryback, but he doesn't bring anything to the table like the above guys can. I think he'll be fine in the Kane/Big Show "occasional main eventer" role.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2013 13:21:37 GMT -5
It sounds weird to type that, but it's true. I think we're finally past the era of people getting pushed just due to their size. And I like Ryback, but he doesn't bring anything to the table like the above guys can. Ie. the Vince era. Thinking about it, if Ryback had come about 8 years earlier, he might have been a huge star. He's in the wrong place doing the wrong thing at the wrong time. |
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Post by Chip on Jun 17, 2013 13:26:05 GMT -5
To think this is all started because Cena got injured and Ryback was the only face that was anywhere near credible for a WWE title match. Talk about a butterfly effect.
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Post by kidkamikaze10 on Jun 17, 2013 13:29:41 GMT -5
The only people I'd say Ryback was a "Rybitch" to was The Shield.
I don't know if that can be even argued. The only person that was more dominated by The Shield than him was Brad Maddox. And that's only because he didn't put up a fight.
EDIT: Oh, and maybe the collective NXT roster with few exceptions (Big E)
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Post by Metalheadbanger Man on Jun 17, 2013 13:35:55 GMT -5
When did he last win on PPV? The good old jobber handicap squash days?
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Post by molson5 on Jun 17, 2013 14:21:21 GMT -5
He really hasn't been around that long as this character, and he's really not that good. Not everybody on the roster has to be world champion, more than enough get that chance as is. It's OK for some guys to try to get the gold but fail.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Jun 17, 2013 14:25:25 GMT -5
He really hasn't been around that long as this character, and he's really not that good. Not everybody on the roster has to be world champion, more than enough get that chance as is. It's OK for some guys to try to get the gold but fail. Imo that's a better way of building up a new star. Just have them go after the WWE Title a few times so that the fans can get used to the prospect of them being a main eventer. It's a lot better than slapping the World Heavyweight Title on them and expecting us to care. |
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Post by molson5 on Jun 17, 2013 14:34:19 GMT -5
He really hasn't been around that long as this character, and he's really not that good. Not everybody on the roster has to be world champion, more than enough get that chance as is. It's OK for some guys to try to get the gold but fail. Imo that's a better way of building up a new star. Just have them go after the WWE Title a few times so that the fans can get used to the prospect of them being a main eventer. It's a lot better than slapping the World Heavyweight Title on them and expecting us to care. I think it's also better than having inconclusive feuds with other guys below the main event. I'm pretty sure Kofi Kingston has won more often on PPV than Ryback. Ryback is still a bigger star and comes off as way more important. |
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Post by Savage Gambino on Jun 17, 2013 15:39:55 GMT -5
When did he last win on PPV? The good old jobber handicap squash days? Hunico, if I recall correctly. I think it's terrible. We were this close to having someone in the main event who hasn't been there for five years, and WWE decided it would be a better investment to just make him a f***ing choke artist (oh, and expect someone to actually call him a choke artist on RAW tonight). Just goes to show WWE doesn't give a f*** if you're over if you're not John Cena. |
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Jun 17, 2013 15:42:32 GMT -5
When did he last win on PPV? The good old jobber handicap squash days? Hunico, if I recall correctly. I think it's terrible. We were this close to having someone in the main event who hasn't been there for five years, and WWE decided it would be a better investment to just make him a f***ing choke artist (oh, and expect someone to actually call him a choke artist on RAW tonight). Just goes to show WWE doesn't give a f*** if you're over if you're not John Cena. Last time he won on PPV was a handicap match against Curt Hawkins and Tyler Reks at last years MiTB. |
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Post by BorneAgain on Jun 17, 2013 15:45:27 GMT -5
I just find it amusing they kept putting Ryback in situations where in terms of the reality of the booking he couldn't logically win. Against Punk, the Shield, Cena.
In hindsight the fact they couldn't even bother putting him over Henry at Wrestlemania spoke volumes.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Jun 17, 2013 15:57:10 GMT -5
I just find it amusing they kept putting Ryback in situations where in terms of the reality of the booking he couldn't logically win. Against Punk, the Shield, Cena. In hindsight the fact they couldn't even bother putting him over Henry at Wrestlemania spoke volumes. In the case of the Shield, I think it was just a matter of the Shield getting more over than they were expected to. Ambrose, Rollins, and Reigns were just supposed to be a trio of mooks, but ended up getting big reactions, and thus Ryback was sacrificed to put THEM over. |
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Post by Hit Girl on Jun 17, 2013 15:57:55 GMT -5
Everything about this guy was done wrong. Name, attire, catchphrase, gestures, booking etc...All of it.
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