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Post by Mr PONYMANIA Mr Jenzie on Sept 6, 2013 17:01:31 GMT -5
he used a powerdrill to take out the two LONG skull screws and revealed his features, leaving his helmet off for the rest of the movie! being a massive fan of the original (four times in the cinema, pirated the home video release, BOUGHT the home video release, BOUGHT the home video widescreen version ..... BOUGHT the making of video ..... and have the dvd boxset AND tv movies ) this was always going to be an intriguing prospect, and given the initial reports i WASN'T that excited for it to actually happen! and given the prepensity for the modern remake/reboot/reimiging of movies ..... THEY ALL LOOK SO BLOODY CLEAN AND CORPORATE!!!! (given what i've actually seen though, not seen the new dredd or total recall) but it's made for the times, the eighties was a mass of excess, with big bold statements ..... now it's almost the opposite! keeping the main character sleek may have been the best thing they've done with this, being able to move quick like, and have his face more visible should present a more "human" face ..... and to the audience ..... as for the trailer, they've took a mix of the three movies, and rejigged his "death" (bob morton's demise), and they've made detroit like a warzone, like a few other things relating to the real world goings on ..... but watching the trailer made me realise the STORY might be the most interesting factor in this! love the initial colouring of him, a injoke to the original ..... and keaten's joke on him going black as well, and hope they also have one for that MASSIVE desert eagle he had ..... keaton being handed it and he goes NAH HE NEEDS A BIGGER ONE!!! obviously this is going for the "safe market" in it's apparent lack of supergore, but i'm sure they'll be some ..... and yes the effects are looking good (him landing and standing up looks very smooth) ..... lest we remember ronny cox's mannaquin i'm giving this one a chance ..... it'll will probably get a "indistinct" review in empire magazine!
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Post by Mr PONYMANIA Mr Jenzie on Sept 6, 2013 17:04:01 GMT -5
oh and i almost forgot .....
the ED-209 instantly reminded of ..... METAL GEAR SOLID!
testing out how THAT cgi works might be a big marker point for that!
but hopefully made by someone with a bit more clout in hollywoooooooooooooood!
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Post by Mozenrath on Sept 6, 2013 17:26:29 GMT -5
In the original, he removed his mask a number of times. Didnt he use a screwdriver and the end of the film to do it and looked at himself? Yeah, the mask doesn't come off easily, but he has removed it a number of times, is what I am saying. I figure the visor is a natural extension of that, just in that letting him keep his face was probably a PR point, anyway, when they didn't really bother to explain it in the original.
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Post by Hit Girl on Sept 6, 2013 17:46:17 GMT -5
This isn't RoboCop
It looks like that action figure knock-off "RobertCop"
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2013 18:31:16 GMT -5
Didnt he use a screwdriver and the end of the film to do it and looked at himself? Yeah, the mask doesn't come off easily, but he has removed it a number of times, is what I am saying. I figure the visor is a natural extension of that, just in that letting him keep his face was probably a PR point, anyway, when they didn't really bother to explain it in the original. I don't remember him taking off the helmet before the lead up to the factory fight.
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Post by FinalGwen on Sept 6, 2013 18:31:48 GMT -5
I bet the people making this movie work for Dick Jones.
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Post by mysterydriver on Sept 6, 2013 18:58:54 GMT -5
I...kind of want to see the scenes where Michael Keaton and Jay Baruchel act together.
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Post by Sparvid on Sept 6, 2013 21:54:20 GMT -5
The silver suit looks great, except for that easily removable visor-thingie (which is probably going to be used constantly) revealing his face incased in the helmet, as opposed to the other way around. Not sure if the line about it not being a suit is supposed to be sarcasm or something, since the filmmakers seem to have gone out of their way to make it look like a human in a suit. The hand doesn't exactly help things either. Compare:
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2013 22:00:29 GMT -5
I would not buy that for a dollar
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Post by Glitch on Sept 6, 2013 22:02:11 GMT -5
The silver suit looks great, except for that easily removable visor-thingie (which is probably going to be used constantly) revealing his face incased in the helmet, as opposed to the other way around. Not sure if the line about it not being a suit is supposed to be sarcasm or something, since the filmmakers seem to have gone out of their way to make it look like a human in a suit. The hand doesn't exactly help things either. Compare: I can't stop laughing at the Megaman cosplayer below the original Robocop.
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Post by Sparvid on Sept 6, 2013 22:05:40 GMT -5
Ah, found the quote it reminded me of.
"Alex Murphy is dead. Take away the metal and wires, and you're just a couple of chunks on a coroner's table. You're not even a corpse."
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Post by Chip on Sept 6, 2013 23:16:00 GMT -5
Didnt he use a screwdriver and the end of the film to do it and looked at himself? Yeah, the mask doesn't come off easily, but he has removed it a number of times, is what I am saying. I figure the visor is a natural extension of that, just in that letting him keep his face was probably a PR point, anyway, when they didn't really bother to explain it in the original. Robocop having the face of Alex Murphy was simply to make him appear friendlier and approchable to the general public. A gun-toting robot needed something to make him look human, nothing works better then a face. The visor is weird in that almost everything he's appeared in has used camera tricks to hide the removal of it, so nobody really knows how it works. I found something, someone posted on another forum that HE found on another forum that gives me a little glimmer of what they could be doing. Of course, my glass is still half full. That's... not a lie though. Robocop IS a robot, he just has a human mind somehow. Robocop has no human organs to speak of, never did. Closest to it was just Alex Murphys face stretched over a bunch of metal.
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Post by SHAKEMASTER TV9 is Don Knotts on Sept 6, 2013 23:18:23 GMT -5
Yeah, the mask doesn't come off easily, but he has removed it a number of times, is what I am saying. I figure the visor is a natural extension of that, just in that letting him keep his face was probably a PR point, anyway, when they didn't really bother to explain it in the original. I don't remember him taking off the helmet before the lead up to the factory fight. I can't either. I just watched it a few weeks ago and I remember when Lewis shows him his reflection that's the first time. There might be a moment when the helmet is removed in his part of the Police Station but we're not shown. But I also remember those scenes have his helmet on. Even when he sleeps he has his helmet. And it wouldn't make sense to remove it every night if it wasn't damaged. It's the same in the screenplay, going into detail how he looks in that scene without the helmet. It's not going to be on Starz/Encore again so I can't be sure but all unmasked Robocop is either after the factory or in Robocop 2.
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Post by Evilution E5150 on Sept 6, 2013 23:19:46 GMT -5
still needs Red Forman to blow his arm of with a shot gun
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Post by Goldenbane on Sept 7, 2013 6:28:15 GMT -5
I'm fine with this, I guess, but I really don't understand why they didn't go with a slightly more original idea. For example, you could do this sort of idea with the old 80's super group "Silverhawks." They never had their own movie, are pretty much completely forgotten, and at least you'd seem a bit more original than remaking Robocop and getting fans up in arms about it.
(Yea yea, "Silverhawks is just a ripoff of Thundercats and aren't original either, blah blah blah" Again though, at least you wouldn't be remaking a movie, and I think the less remakes there are, the better.)
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Post by James Fabiano on Sept 7, 2013 8:39:49 GMT -5
I hope TNA does cross-promotion and he can hook back up with Sting next year. This, oh, a thousand times this. Robo for the Main Event Mafia! But since Robocop is not an MMA fighter, TNA probably wouldn't be interested. Can WWE come up with an Are You Serious? compilation as an excuse to show the original clip, then they can have the new Robo save John Cena or something? (kind of like the Shockmaster callback when the WCW DVD came out) Moviewise, the only thing I'll say is the costume doesn't look as bad as some of the still pics. I actually think the red laser light visor is kind of cool. But we know it is now black because everything has to be like The Goddamn Batman now.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2013 11:14:42 GMT -5
It feels boring and cliche, and shit like the fact that he has his memories from the get go annoy me. One of the best bits from the original Robocop was how he slowly regained his memories of his family and his near death at the hands of Clarence Boddicker. It's why "Murphy, it's you." is such a strong line. In the original it was about the man freeing himself from the machine. Here he's just essentially a guy in a metal suit. Also, Murphy's family still being there also bugs me. It seems like another soulless remake without any of the fun from the original. No thank you. Took the words right out of my mouth word for word. Thank goodness his helmet flips up so we can see the actors face, his contract must have called for that or it was a studio mandate. I will not watch this with euphoric bliss. In the original, he removed his mask a number of times. His face was disfigured and horrifying. I found something, someone posted on another forum that HE found on another forum that gives me a little glimmer of what they could be doing. Of course, my glass is still half full. Well this gives me some hope for this movie
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Post by Mr PONYMANIA Mr Jenzie on Sept 7, 2013 11:47:33 GMT -5
hmmm he WASN'T sold to the public "as a robot", that was never mentioned (i think) he is a cyborg ..... with total body prosthesis (NOW LOSE THE ARM OK!!!) as THE FUTURE OF LAW ENFORCEMENT!!! then ed-209 slapsticked his way into our hearts
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Post by tigermaskxxxvii on Sept 7, 2013 13:27:56 GMT -5
Ok...first the good - Michael Keaton AND Gary Oldman in the same movie. That's pretty a pretty strong selling point for me. coughsBatman&Gordoncoughs Now, the bad - everything else. Its not even the costume re-design, which I like, its just....it looks more Total Rekall than Dredd. First Robocop voices Batman in the animated adaption of The Dark Knight Returns and then Batman plays OCP's CEO! If this film does well in the box office then I hope the sequel (like Robocop 2) has a story that incorporates the fictional designer drug Nuke. Not that I want an exact remake of Robocop, but I feel like if this movie leads to others that they would be remiss if they didn't bring back Nuke seeing has how it seems like designer drug use (Crystal Meth, Ecstacy, etc) have become a lot more common. Also any and all Robocop movies need commercials for OCP products interspersed throughout the movie.
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Post by Mozenrath on Sept 7, 2013 16:44:29 GMT -5
hmmm he WASN'T sold to the public "as a robot", that was never mentioned (i think) he is a cyborg ..... with total body prosthesis (NOW LOSE THE ARM OK!!!) as THE FUTURE OF LAW ENFORCEMENT!!! then ed-209 slapsticked his way into our hearts My brother brought up an interesting point. Outside of the story reason he lost the arm, he also reminded me that in Robocop, they were able to save one of his arms, or even just the hand. An OCP guy basically said "we don't need that, though. Toss it." Besides, I wouldn't be surprised if part of why he has it is so he can dramatically lose the hand, anyway.
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