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Post by Drillbit Taylor on Nov 21, 2013 2:37:39 GMT -5
Three pages in, and no one has mentioned the New Coke/Coke Classic thing? I believe more that it was a convenient diversion to switch from cane sugar to HFC. Dont think they planed for New Coke to tank, but I do think they intended to bring the original "formula" back after a certain time by the late 80s with HFC. But not as fast as they did.
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Post by kamero00 on Nov 21, 2013 2:38:23 GMT -5
-The aforementioned Sacramento/Lakers playoff debacle. Is that even a conspiracy? Objectively, there is enough proof to call it true on some level. The Bret Hull Stanley Cup winning goal in '99. His foot was in the crease for the game winning goal. The NHL said it changed the rule in January, in a press release that had never been seen, and there had been to instance of ANY goals being allowed to count while an opposition player was in the crease.
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Post by kamero00 on Nov 21, 2013 2:44:29 GMT -5
Working in PR, I have it on good authority that, The Gap's logo change was just a marketing stunt. No signs were ever printed, and not merchandise was ever distributed with this logo.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2013 8:46:29 GMT -5
I doubt this one. Someone finds a cure for a major illness and can then dole it out at an incredible price (before bootleg versions come into existence), and retire rich or use the money in a huge number of investment schemes. That seems way too good to pass up. Unless there's more money to be made by developing a treatment which must be administered on a regular basis, thus preventing their deaths, but not curing the underlying condition. Why do you need to treat them for life? A giant lumpsum in a market that nobody else can control. That sounds like an incredible investment opportunity if there ever was one. Like the Italian Job minus the lawbreaking.
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Post by Red Impact on Nov 21, 2013 9:13:43 GMT -5
Supression of the electric car (by car and petrol companies) Is this one still conspiracy at this point? I thought it was pretty well documented.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Nov 21, 2013 9:28:38 GMT -5
There have been a couple times in recent years I've felt that the draft lottery in the NBA was fixed.
You have Blake Griffin coming out as the consensus number 1 pick, and the Clippers (an LA team) win the draft lotto.
LeBron leaves Cleveland, Kyrie Irving enters the draft seen as a franchise player, Cleveland wins the lotto.
Derrick Rose is considered either the first or 2nd pick in the draft and is a Chicago born kid, the Bulls win the lotto.
The NBA is forced to buy the Hornets, trade off Chris Paul, and are looking for new owners, they win the lotto when Anthony Davis is considered the consensus number 1 pick.
I mean the only one that doesn't seem that fishy is Griffin, but the circumstances for the others is kind of suspicious.
At the same time, while I'm not a Celtics fan, I think the Celtics were punished in 2007 for making it extremely evident that they were tanking for either Durant or Oden. Granted it all worked out cause they got Ray Allen and KG that offseason, but I do think the NBA punished them.
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Post by "Gentleman" AJ Powell on Nov 21, 2013 10:14:13 GMT -5
Anderson Silva took a dive in the Wiedman fight so he could get a huge payoff in a rematch You think he allowed himself to be K.O. punched in the face and hammer-shot on the mat immediately thereafter to throw the fight for money? If so, it was the most potentially dangerous, career-threatening dive ever. He could have been concussed and never fought again. There would be no way to gauge what would happen after he fell. Unlike boxing, MMA allows you a window to go for another blow after you fall. If he was going to throw it, the safe bet would have been tapping quickly. I now want to see someone pull a Chavo and blatantly tap out to a pre-match handshake. Also, on your post on progressiveness, the vast majority are people who think that believing and defending these various things are just following trends, most of them being what my friend calls "tumbltards". My sister pretty much fits the exact archetype, for years she'd call me faggot and other slurs because it was so hilarious, but now if you use the word gay jokingly, she'll jump down your throat because if all these tumblr idols believe it, shouldn't she? Sorry for the minor rant, just pisses me off. I mean, I like to think I have kind of progressive views in regards to homosexuality and racism etc, but the fact that the majority of these people have to shout it from the rooftops and harp on about it to get adulation and acceptance from the like-minded imbeciles around them that can't form their own views is annoying as hell.
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Post by EvenBaldobombHasAJob on Nov 21, 2013 16:22:38 GMT -5
-The aforementioned Sacramento/Lakers playoff debacle. Is that even a conspiracy? Objectively, there is enough proof to call it true on some level. The Bret Hull Stanley Cup winning goal in '99. His foot was in the crease for the game winning goal. The NHL said it changed the rule in January, in a press release that had never been seen, and there had been to instance of ANY goals being allowed to count while an opposition player was in the crease. I think the NHL DID f*** up there, but I don't think it was on purpose. the Stars were up 3-1 in the series, the game was 4 periods into overtime and everyone was tired. and in all honesty, it was a stupid rule to begin with that did nothing to protect goalies' safety and it was repealed the following year anyway.
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Post by Drillbit Taylor on Nov 21, 2013 16:55:43 GMT -5
The NBA is forced to buy the Hornets, trade off Chris Paul, and are looking for new owners, they win the lotto when Anthony Davis is considered the consensus number 1 pick. . "Basketball reasons"
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2013 17:31:24 GMT -5
Boxing is rigged.
Most NBA games are rigged, mainly during the playoffs. I think as rigged as they can be.
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Post by Feyrhausen on Nov 21, 2013 18:25:16 GMT -5
Three pages in, and no one has mentioned the New Coke/Coke Classic thing? I believe more that it was a convenient diversion to switch from cane sugar to HFC. Dont think they planed for New Coke to tank, but I do think they intended to bring the original "formula" back after a certain time by the late 80s with HFC. But not as fast as they did. Coke Bottlers have a choice on whether to use HFCS or Sugar. Most bottlers had already switched before New Coke. Only after Coke Classic came back did all of the switch over. Maybe you can say that Coca Cola used New Coke to force the issue, but really without New Coke most bottlers would have eventually switched anyway due to the cost. New Coke was coke trying to make a tastier Pepsi style product (Diet Coke which tasted sweeter like Pepsi was outselling Classic Coke in many markets) without splitting the market share (allowing Pepsi to say they outsold Coke). Which is what happened when they brought back Classic Coke. Many consumers loved New Coke, the market was split, and for awhile Pepsi could say they outsold Coke (Classic and New, not both combined). See Snopes.com
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2013 19:43:42 GMT -5
Isn't there a video of stern looking for the folded envelope in one draft lottery that NY won? Didn't he also imply he can control outcomes during the NBA lockout and didn't he have a press conference awkwardly explaining why Cleveland won the LeBron lottery?
I also believe that Bettman who was an assistant to Stern before becoming a NHL commissioner probably some of the shady practices he did and rubbed off him. Possibly got some pointers. The NHL doesn't feel rigged outside of a few draft lotteries and a few tight game six games so they can force a game seven.
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Post by hossfan on Nov 21, 2013 23:16:17 GMT -5
As for mine: I think most people who speak up for social causes and change are full of shit and are just saying so so to not look bad to those they're not sure feel the same way. If everyone was as progressive as they pretend to be on the Internet, this world would actually be a much better, different place, full of equal rights for people, and referendums or same-sex marriage votes would be landslides. Because everyone who makes up the voting population posts on the internet, right? How is this a conspiracy theory, anyway? Sounds a lot more like "progressives are hypocrites" theory.
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Post by SEAN CARLESS on Nov 21, 2013 23:23:08 GMT -5
As for mine: I think most people who speak up for social causes and change are full of shit and are just saying so so to not look bad to those they're not sure feel the same way. If everyone was as progressive as they pretend to be on the Internet, this world would actually be a much better, different place, full of equal rights for people, and referendums or same-sex marriage votes would be landslides. Because everyone who makes up the voting population posts on the internet, right? How is this a conspiracy theory, anyway? Sounds a lot more like "progressives are hypocrites" theory. No, I truly believe a lot of people say they're progressive when they're not. They should be, absolutely, but I think, when push comes to shove, most don't rock the boat. They just say it to seem like they're making a difference. Slacktivism 101.
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Post by Hit Girl on Nov 21, 2013 23:26:42 GMT -5
The US government does not discourage stories that aliens and UFO's are being held at Area 51, because it's a useful cover for testing experimental aircraft. If people are looking for alien ships, they're aren't paying attention to the F-66 Shitslayer or whatever that's actually being developed there.
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Post by hossfan on Nov 21, 2013 23:40:32 GMT -5
Because everyone who makes up the voting population posts on the internet, right? How is this a conspiracy theory, anyway? Sounds a lot more like "progressives are hypocrites" theory. No, I truly believe a lot of people say they're progressive when they're not. They should be, absolutely, but I think, when push comes to shove, most don't rock the boat. They just say it to seem like they're making a difference. Slacktivism 101. You can believe whatever you want, but it doesn't make it a conspiracy. You're not describing some active plot where people have entered into an agreement to do something illegal or immoral (which is what a conspiracy is), you're talking about individuals saying one thing on the internet and acting a completely different way in real life. That's being hypocritical, not conspiratorial.
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Post by Glitch on Nov 21, 2013 23:46:34 GMT -5
I still believe that the split between Wrestlecrap and FAN is some type of secret angle leading to something.
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Post by SEAN CARLESS on Nov 22, 2013 1:00:17 GMT -5
No, I truly believe a lot of people say they're progressive when they're not. They should be, absolutely, but I think, when push comes to shove, most don't rock the boat. They just say it to seem like they're making a difference. Slacktivism 101. You can believe whatever you want, but it doesn't make it a conspiracy. You're not describing some active plot where people have entered into an agreement to do something illegal or immoral (which is what a conspiracy is), you're talking about individuals saying one thing on the internet and acting a completely different way in real life. That's being hypocritical, not conspiratorial. You're right about that. It doesn't really fit the conspiracy label.
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Post by SEAN CARLESS on Nov 22, 2013 1:01:28 GMT -5
I still believe that the split between Wrestlecrap and FAN is some type of secret angle leading to something. That one I actually do know the true answer to, since I own the new board. But I'll never tell.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Nov 22, 2013 1:43:56 GMT -5
I stiN is some type of secret angle leading to something. That one I actually do know the true answer to, since I own the new board. But I'll never tell. And if ya did tell, hell it's not that exciting a story tbh.
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