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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Nov 22, 2013 1:48:31 GMT -5
I tend to not believe in any conspiracy theories. Same here. Generally the simplest, plausible answer does it for me. I'm sure there are some here and there, but they're not nearly as prevalent or complicated as ones that are bandied about.
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Post by Incognito on Nov 22, 2013 2:44:57 GMT -5
con·spir·a·cy
noun, plural con·spir·a·cies. 1. The act of conspiring. 2. An evil, unlawful, treacherous, or surreptitious plan formulated in secret by two or more persons; plot. 3. A combination of persons for a secret, unlawful, or evil purpose: He joined the conspiracy to overthrow the organization. 4. Law. An agreement by two or more persons to commit a crime, fraud, or other wrongful act. 5. Any concurrence in action; combination in bringing about a given result.
They happen all day, everyday, everywhere.
A problem that tends to happen is many conspiracy theories will be lumped together to create straw man arguments. A response sometimes observed is 'yes one theory has been proved to be false (a fallacious, ridiculous one) so that means all conspiracies do not exist. Essentially various conspiracies should be examined individually and not put in the same bowl.
The truth stays the truth whether it's a conspiracy or not...
If any conspiracy is truth, it doesn't change whether we believe it or not.
As for a theory, I don't underestimate pharmaceutical greed or corporate greed in general. I agree with an above poster about the suppression of cures for various medical conditions. Healthy people give very little money (if any) at the pharmacy counter.
The suppression of the electric car is another.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Nov 22, 2013 3:04:30 GMT -5
I'm paraphrasing Dan Carlin here, but people like believing in conspiracy theories because even if those behind the conspiracy are nefarious, it's more comforting believing that someone is 'in charge'.
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Post by Incognito on Nov 22, 2013 3:11:12 GMT -5
On a lighter note...
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Post by rapidfire187 on Nov 22, 2013 12:43:41 GMT -5
I'm not sure that I really believe anything because of this or even know what the implications are, but the Lil Wayne/Aurora Colorado shooting conspiracy is interesting if nothing else.
The video for "My Homie Still" features a short scene of skeletons sitting in a movie theater, many of which are covering their ears. Supposedly it's the same amount of skeletons as the number of people who were killed in that shooting. The video came out shortly before the tragedy.
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Post by Lazy peon on Nov 22, 2013 13:48:12 GMT -5
On a lighter note... That looks like a miniature set, not a real place. CONSPIRACY!
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Post by Hit Girl on Nov 22, 2013 14:00:54 GMT -5
I'm paraphrasing Dan Carlin here, but people like believing in conspiracy theories because even if those behind the conspiracy are nefarious, it's more comforting believing that someone is 'in charge'. This is basically it.
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Post by Magnus the Magnificent on Nov 22, 2013 16:56:43 GMT -5
C-o-n...spiracy!
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Post by crowwreak was WRONG on Nov 22, 2013 18:17:29 GMT -5
For a while I used to believe the rumors that someone else/Courtney Love killed Kurt Cobain. Not sure if I still do or not... After seeing the documentary Kurt & Courtney, I'm almost positive Courtney had something to do with Kurt's demise. My theory is that he OD'd and someone made it look like an intentional death so Frances wouldn't be taken off Courtney
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Post by crowwreak was WRONG on Nov 22, 2013 18:23:59 GMT -5
All the Miley Cyrus bullshit lately is so people will buy her crap, and everyone is falling for it. I mean, come on, despite all the media, she hasn't done anything that would measure up to say, Marylin Manson.
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Post by Mozenrath on Nov 22, 2013 18:44:19 GMT -5
All the Miley Cyrus bullshit lately is so people will buy her crap, and everyone is falling for it. I mean, come on, despite all the media, she hasn't done anything that would measure up to say, Marylin Manson. Is it a theory when she has explicitly stated that people talking about her is the aim? If anyone believes she's actually stupid or insane, they're probably the ones with the crackpot theory, given how lucrative Miley's endeavors have been for her.
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Post by Cyno on Nov 22, 2013 19:42:44 GMT -5
I tend to not believe in any conspiracy theories. Same here. Generally the simplest, plausible answer does it for me. I'm sure there are some here and there, but they're not nearly as prevalent or complicated as ones that are bandied about. Yeah, I'm a big believer in Occam's razor.
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Post by Reflecto on Nov 22, 2013 19:45:38 GMT -5
I'm paraphrasing Dan Carlin here, but people like believing in conspiracy theories because even if those behind the conspiracy are nefarious, it's more comforting believing that someone is 'in charge'. Well, that's what the Illuminati WANT people to think, anyways...
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Post by Orange on Nov 22, 2013 19:47:51 GMT -5
All the Miley Cyrus bullshit lately is so people will buy her crap, and everyone is falling for it. I mean, come on, despite all the media, she hasn't done anything that would measure up to say, Marylin Manson. I think in the case of Miley, it's who it is rather than what she is doing. Marilyn Manson hadn't been famous prior to him being a shock rocker, whereas in the case of Miley people knew her from her sweet, wholesome Disney days. That's what's making her antics so controversial; it's who she was prior to this rather than the fact that she's doing weird shit. Same as with Britney Spears; her first video was her in a schoolgirl outfit, and the next thing we knew she was practically naked in the "Toxic" video. Controversy creates cash and it couldn't be more true when talking about Miley now.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Nov 22, 2013 19:49:13 GMT -5
con·spir·a·cy
noun, plural con·spir·a·cies. 1. The act of conspiring. 2. An evil, unlawful, treacherous, or surreptitious plan formulated in secret by two or more persons; plot. 3. A combination of persons for a secret, unlawful, or evil purpose: He joined the conspiracy to overthrow the organization. 4. Law. An agreement by two or more persons to commit a crime, fraud, or other wrongful act. 5. Any concurrence in action; combination in bringing about a given result.
They happen all day, everyday, everywhere.
A problem that tends to happen is many conspiracy theories will be lumped together to create straw man arguments. A response sometimes observed is 'yes one theory has been proved to be false (a fallacious, ridiculous one) so that means all conspiracies do not exist. Essentially various conspiracies should be examined individually and not put in the same bowl.
The truth stays the truth whether it's a conspiracy or not...
If any conspiracy is truth, it doesn't change whether we believe it or not.
As for a theory, I don't underestimate pharmaceutical greed or corporate greed in general. I agree with an above poster about the suppression of cures for various medical conditions. Healthy people give very little money (if any) at the pharmacy counter.
The suppression of the electric car is another.
Well yeah, I already knew the definition. Of course you'll have two or more parties in collusions of sorts, but generally when people talk about 'conspiracy theories' there's the widespread, HUGE things with shadowy figures and the whole nine, and I don't buy that those happen that often. But yes, if we're talking about things like corporate greed that happen every day, sure, people "conspire" all the time, by definition of the term. No one's really arguing that are they? But even those usually have a pretty plausible, simple explanation.
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Post by Ape Boy on Nov 27, 2013 12:29:18 GMT -5
The 1985 NBA Draft Lottery was so clearly rigged to land Patrick Ewing in New York that I'm not even sure it qualifies as a conspiracy.
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