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Post by Pillman's Pencil on Jul 29, 2014 15:55:20 GMT -5
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nm
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Post by nm on Jul 29, 2014 15:56:30 GMT -5
Roman is going to attack Randy with a screwdriver
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Post by Hit Girl on Jul 29, 2014 15:58:08 GMT -5
It's taken this long for the locker room to notice that Orton uses restholds?
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keezy
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Post by keezy on Jul 29, 2014 15:58:27 GMT -5
Hasn't Orton said in the past he prefers working as heel? Why would he be threatened by an up and coming babyface?
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Post by Neo: "The One" who CLAPS on Jul 29, 2014 15:59:35 GMT -5
I doubt that Randy is purposely making his matches with Reigns crappy just so he can protect his spot.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2014 15:59:44 GMT -5
That is some grade A bolllllllllllllllllll sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet
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Post by weaselboy on Jul 29, 2014 16:09:03 GMT -5
Something seems fishy, usually all wrestlers use a lot of rest holds and stalling tactics on House Shows to preserve their bodies and lower the risk of injuries.
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Post by mrjl on Jul 29, 2014 16:15:52 GMT -5
Hasn't Orton said in the past he prefers working as heel? Why would he be threatened by an up and coming babyface? if the babyface comes up by going through him it doesn't exactly suggest he's going to be this guys ultimate adversary. No one talks about Hulk Hogan's epic rivalry with the Iron Sheik after all. And if Reigns reaches the top they'll probably need to elevate someone to match up with Reigns
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Post by Dr. Bolty, Disaster Enby on Jul 29, 2014 16:16:06 GMT -5
It doesn't sound like anyone is accusing him of burying Reigns, it seems more like people think that Orton isn't the right person to help Reigns grow into the role WWE wants for him.
Certainly, that seems to be Orton's job right now - Reigns is limited and everyone can see it, and he's being repeatedly booked with Kane and Orton, who are two of the longest-running acts in the company, both known for a very repetitive match formula that anyone can be slotted into. I think WWE sees Orton and Kane as opponents that are impossible for someone to mess up against.
...except that Orton has never actually been good at carrying people. It's baffling, considering how highly many wrestlers rate his wrestling ability, and how simple his style is, but Orton has had serious problems gelling with lesser workers in the past, so it is in many ways baffling that WWE expects him to be the guy helping Reigns grow on the house show circuit.
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Post by Bert Hart on Jul 29, 2014 16:37:44 GMT -5
Ambrose and Cesaro. Two wrestlers who have gotten over organically and who the crowd are BEGGING to support in a main event program. You guys already have two of them on the verge of stardom, yet you refuse to do anything about it. Instead, you insist on square-peg-round-holing Reigns like you did with Sheamus.
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Post by Perd on Jul 29, 2014 16:38:27 GMT -5
Damn, even the newz stories about Orton are boring.
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Post by Brood Lone Wolf Funker on Jul 29, 2014 16:48:26 GMT -5
I think the announce table has more heat on it than Randy
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2014 16:52:00 GMT -5
Does not totally suprise me.
Orton is considered to be REALLY good at the WWE style. If a match of his is boring, it's either because the face he is facing is not over (Sheamus), or because he is doing it on purpose
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Post by SCCB Was Told To Do Steroids on Jul 29, 2014 16:55:35 GMT -5
He epitomizes what everyone hates about the WWE. I will hold management to this: No one had ever told him to grow as a performer.
I'd insert a little psychological conditioning. Tell him he gets a bonus for every match he cuts out one rest hold. He'll have one year to cut his matches down to two or three rest holds per match, or else get docked. If he can manage to maintain two to three rest holds per match for one year, give him one classic car they aren't going to destroy for an angle.
(Lol, I just wrote RKO an Individualized Education Plan!)
As an aside, I, too, have always found it strange that one of the WWE's best conditioned athletes used so many. I guess that's were the "craft" of dis bizniss comes into play.
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Post by bearned on Jul 29, 2014 16:57:11 GMT -5
Pretty obvious they are keeping Reigns with Orton because the matches are risk free in terms of not exposing Reigns lack of ability (not saying he doesn't have potential)
It would be even worse if Reigns was up against a less predictable wrestler and looked like an idiot.
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Chip
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Post by Chip on Jul 29, 2014 16:59:34 GMT -5
If Orton can't drag a good match out of Reigns there's really not that many that could. The two biggest heels that could maybe do that are Rollins and Hunter. Everyone else is too far down the card to work a serious angle with him.
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Post by Pillman's Pencil on Jul 29, 2014 17:15:03 GMT -5
If Barrett wasn't injured I'd say he would work perfectly with him, he made Reigns look really good in their match on Smackdown.
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Post by mizerable on Jul 29, 2014 17:17:52 GMT -5
If true...why does it fall on Randy? It takes two to go at the same rate. Perhaps Roman isn't ready?
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Post by cabbageboy on Jul 29, 2014 17:19:27 GMT -5
It's always struck me as odd that Orton prefers being heel since he tends to kinda suck when wrestling as a heel. I am baffled as to why fans at a house show would expect a blow away match, but then I don't think Orton and Reigns are capable of having a brilliant match with each other.
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Post by Bo Rida on Jul 29, 2014 17:48:57 GMT -5
Of course he has heat backstage, for the past year he's been booked as massive jobber that can't win a big match without some outside help as punishment.
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