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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2014 5:42:44 GMT -5
I do.
In about 30 years of watching wrestling,I've always said "I'll watch any wrestling that's on TV". And I would.
Then TNA started being so aggressively tedious that they changed that for me. You can count on just about anyone that gets over being turned heel/face...and then back if they accidentally stay somewhat over. In fact you can count on anything that shows promise being dropped ASAP. They do it so consistently you'd think Dixie was trying to win a bet she made on how to entertain as few people as possible and sell the least amount of merch.
The overly drawn out storylines with heel stables that go on for a year and just get quietly dropped/have next to no resolution as people get released.
The show opening with heel/heel stable in ring promos so long that even HHH would groan.
Consistently depushing/releasing entertaining knockouts ASAP so people don't accidentally enjoy the division.
TNA has made wrestling just a little bit less fun by existing. It's the only wrestling fed in my life I actively dislike and want to see off television.
They're proven they're physically incapable of getting better so I won't waste a single second hoping they do.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Aug 27, 2014 5:58:29 GMT -5
Honestly, for as much as they deserve to be Ol Yeller'd for their many, many cases of ineptitude, the one reason they REALLY deserve to not be a thing anymore is the shady way they've always had a lack of safety for their own workers.
Whether it's letting guys go out there drugged out of their mind, having guys continue to wrestle for them when they're clearly shells of themselves, putting wrestlers in the ring with people who are in no way capable of having a safe match, or just allowing/encouraging people to take utterly stupid risks; that's the one thing that they legitimately deserve to be called on the carpet for.
Put the terrible booking and wasted talent aside, harboring an unsafe work environment and/or not compensating those that get injured as a result to me says they should have to close the doors down.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Aug 27, 2014 6:33:44 GMT -5
No, that means I have to shut a board on this forum, and that makes me more disappointed than a Matt Hardy fan. Just go through with your "CHIKARA Pro" Section! Trust me, you'll get Traffic to it
As for the answer, I just think they deserve to die. I feel bad for the wrestlers I don't want them to be left without work, but it's not the Wrestlers Fault if this company goes down, it's the idiots backstage booking them and running it finally into the ground like a Piledriver.
TNA bought this on themselves and Karma is a Bitch
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Post by Push R Truth on Aug 27, 2014 6:49:32 GMT -5
Sometimes liking it, sometimes ignoring it; I always tried to pay attention to TNA because it would have flashes of brilliance. I didn't want it to die.
Right after they marched a completely bombed Jeff Hardy down to the ring to "wrestle" Sting they morphed into just another scumbag indy that puts people at great risk for no reason. TNA needs to die. You can't be a respectable company and do that shit.
It's a legacy that needs to be put down before something awful happens.
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Post by evilone on Aug 27, 2014 7:16:48 GMT -5
Reading this board you would think that TNA is a lot worse than WWE to watch while reality cannot be more contrasting. WWE is the exact same product as TNA but with more glitter and sparkles. So I guess they both deserve to die.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Aug 27, 2014 7:16:59 GMT -5
I do. In about 30 years of watching wrestling,I've always said "I'll watch any wrestling that's on TV". And I would. Then TNA started being so aggressively tedious that they changed that for me. You can count on just about anyone that gets over being turned heel/face...and then back if they accidentally stay somewhat over. In fact you can count on anything that shows promise being dropped ASAP. They do it so consistently you'd think Dixie was trying to win a bet she made on how to entertain as few people as possible and sell the least amount of merch. The overly drawn out storylines with heel stables that go on for a year and just get quietly dropped/have next to no resolution as people get released. The show opening with heel/heel stable in ring promos so long that even HHH would groan. Consistently depushing/releasing entertaining knockouts ASAP so people don't accidentally enjoy the division. TNA has made wrestling just a little bit less fun by existing. It's the only wrestling fed in my life I actively dislike and want to see off television. They're proven they're physically incapable of getting better so I won't waste a single second hoping they do. Add the nonsensical face/heel turns and you just mentioned my frustrations with the product, watching the preview of the Bad Influence shoot, they said something really interesting, they were gonna wrestle Hernandez and Chavo in Arizona, and Dixie told them to work like racist local heels...if dixie also took creative decisions regarding other stuff it wouldn't surprise me, a money mark playing booker. Another reason tna deserves to die, non wrestling people can never run a wrestling company.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Aug 27, 2014 8:44:40 GMT -5
Honestly, for as much as they deserve to be Ol Yeller'd for their many, many cases of ineptitude, the one reason they REALLY deserve to not be a thing anymore is the shady way they've always had a lack of safety for their own workers. Whether it's letting guys go out there drugged out of their mind, having guys continue to wrestle for them when they're clearly shells of themselves, putting wrestlers in the ring with people who are in no way capable of having a safe match, or just allowing/encouraging people to take utterly stupid risks; that's the one thing that they legitimately deserve to be called on the carpet for. Put the terrible booking and wasted talent aside, harboring an unsafe work environment and/or not compensating those that get injured as a result to me says they should have to close the doors down. Don't forget allegedly not paying their production and other staff members recently.
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Post by Freddy BooJangles on Aug 27, 2014 9:03:42 GMT -5
No f****ing way I want to see an wrestling alternative to WWE & its PG programming on network TV & TNA provides that but I do wish that TNA would drop Trixie Carter for someone who knows how to run a wrestling business.
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Post by bluemeii on Aug 27, 2014 10:22:11 GMT -5
If this deal is legit, it will be TNA in name only.
Talent won't factor into the equation if you are going to be on or not. It's how much money you make. Everything will be stripped down and barebones. Contracts will be a couple hundred max per appearance and no one is on any type of guarantees. All the names you know on TV now will be gone other than the ones everybody groans when they come on screen. (except EC3 and Spud).
Can you see someone like Roode sticking around for a couple hundred a show when he can probably get more than that on the indy's. Same with Joe, Aries, Ki, MVP and many others. Anyone with any type of name recognition will probably be able to get more on the indy's then in TNA. For them to have any semblance whatsoever to the TNA you see now, they would need to get some sweetheart deal somewhere that enables them to tape at a location for nothing or next to nothing.
I wasn't kidding when I joked about 2 out 3 falls main events with DJ Z v Bram every week. If that excites you and you happen to live in an area that actually gets this channel, great. But this isn't the usual 2 steps forward one step back with TNA. This is a hop, skip, jump, summersault, barrel roll, and 400 foot cliff dive backwards.
Regarding WWE and it's "PG Progrmamming". How is this still a valid complaint. Every time TNA does any "mature" (if you want to call it that) content it always comes off horrific and laughable. Do we be happy cause they say ass every now and then. I just don't get that argument in 2014.
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Post by jason1980s on Aug 27, 2014 11:07:16 GMT -5
TNA reminds me of JC Penney during the Ron Johnson era.
Johnson had a "vision" for the store and his ideas were generally very awful. His time with the company led to stock decline, loss of long time customers and lay offs of thousands of loyal employees. Throughout his year and few months, he just kept plugging along with his "vision" and the company was 100 year old company was thought to be nearing the end. It was almost as if he was secretly an employee for Macy's or Sears.
Throughout the last few years Dixie and company seem to have done everything in their power to take the company into decline leading to ratings decline, poor fan turnout at shows and loss of many of their top names. Unlike JC Penney, TNA is just too far gone for any replacement of Dixie to allow the company to survive a few more years.
TNA is like Homer Simpson's monkey, Mojo, just sitting their waiting to die...
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Post by Ishmeal Loves Kaseyhausen on Aug 27, 2014 12:08:26 GMT -5
Yes.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2014 12:15:54 GMT -5
I used to just want it to get better, but I gave up like 4 years ago on that. I want them out of the way so that they can stop putting out a product that is embarrassing to wrestling and someone new can try to step up into that number 2 spot.
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Post by Gerard Gerard on Aug 27, 2014 12:22:37 GMT -5
The letters TNA should die. It's a hindering, Attitude hangover that wasn't even all that witty when it was contrived in 2002. Say what you please about Hogan's tenure, but pushing the 'Impact Wrestling' rebranding was a solid move: complete it, please. It was the first time in their 10+ years that they'd the word wrestling front-and-center in their marketing.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Aug 27, 2014 12:43:21 GMT -5
I used to just want it to get better, but I gave up like 4 years ago on that. I want them out of the way so that they can stop putting out a product that is embarrassing to wrestling and someone new can try to step up into that number 2 spot. Do you remember the exact moment you gave up? Was it during the Monday night Massacre? For me it was the nasty boys being booked in 2010...
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Post by Stone Coke Miami Watson 🥃 on Aug 27, 2014 13:01:17 GMT -5
I used to just want it to get better, but I gave up like 4 years ago on that. I want them out of the way so that they can stop putting out a product that is embarrassing to wrestling and someone new can try to step up into that number 2 spot. Do you remember the exact moment you gave up? Was it during the Monday night Massacre? For me it was the nasty boys being booked in 2010... Me, it was the push of The Nasty Boys and Daniels jobbing to Val Venis that did it for me, with drugged-out Jeff Hardy versus Sting sealing the nail on the coffin.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Aug 27, 2014 13:14:11 GMT -5
Also I will just like to say the title of this thread got Possum Kingdom by the toadies stuck in my head...
so thanks for that... I guess...
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Post by Cyno on Aug 27, 2014 13:33:51 GMT -5
I used to just want it to get better, but I gave up like 4 years ago on that. I want them out of the way so that they can stop putting out a product that is embarrassing to wrestling and someone new can try to step up into that number 2 spot. Do you remember the exact moment you gave up? Was it during the Monday night Massacre? For me it was the nasty boys being booked in 2010... I want to say 10/14/10 was the point of no return for me, but I still had some glimmer of hope after they left. Then Dixie Carter became a heel authority figure and I lost all hope.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Aug 27, 2014 16:39:25 GMT -5
Just had an Orangeboom beer (try it, it tastes great) for tna. It doesn't matter how we came in contact with it, be it following since day 1, the weekly ppvs, or following it since Christian or Kurt Angle joined it.
Deep down we wanted TNA to suceed. We all believed that Samoa Joe truly was pro wrestling, that the X Division, wasn't about weight limits that it was about no limits, that the 6 sided ring looked cool.
I wasn't a fan of the Main Event Mafia, I think that it was Joe's moment to shine, and he became an Umaga ripoff, with the face paint and the pijama pants, I still believe that the angle hurt tna. Inmortal had the best intentions at heart, the promo Jeff Hardy cut about friendship being nothing more than an illusion, is still one of my favorites, he then ruined it in Victory Road '11. Aces and Eights sucked from the start, when D-Von was revealed as the vice president, the crowd didn't even cared. The last bit of hope I had was when MVP debuted, I lost it when he turned heel without a good reason...
I wish I could drink with all of you, and remember the great moments TNA had. Those of us who stayed, I get f***ing sad when I think about all the wrestlers that aren't there anymore, that helped the company, names like: "The Alpha Male" Monty Brown, Konnan, BG James, Christian Cage, Bully Ray, Sting, Scott Steiner, Petey Williams, Sonjay Dutt, Jay Lethal, Alex Shelley, Chris Sabin, Jerry Lynn, Frankie Kazarian, "The Fallen Angel" Christopher Daniels, Raven, and "The Phenomenal" AJ Styles amongst others.
And as we're drinking, we're also gonna watch the whole "Paparazzi Productions, X Division Cup".
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2014 19:57:22 GMT -5
I used to just want it to get better, but I gave up like 4 years ago on that. I want them out of the way so that they can stop putting out a product that is embarrassing to wrestling and someone new can try to step up into that number 2 spot. Do you remember the exact moment you gave up? Was it during the Monday night Massacre? For me it was the nasty boys being booked in 2010... Hogan taking over was disheartening in many different ways, but I think the moment I realized that they would never amount to anything due to their own stupidity was when they pushed aside AJ Styles, Samoa Joe, Kurt Angle, and Abyss in favor of doing a pay per view that was an ECW nostalgia show in 2010. And they couldn't even call it ECW. Man, talk about a run on sentence.
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Post by Ken: The Hero of WWE on Aug 27, 2014 20:22:10 GMT -5
Yes, I do. So a new company can claim that number 2 spot, liked PWG or CHIKARA.
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