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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2014 23:58:38 GMT -5
Family Values: Brock Edward Lesnar is the man who has been married to the love of his life, and mother of his children, for years. He has put his health and well-being on the line in various contact sports for years in the interest of providing the best possible life for them. Refused to sign with the company unless his friend/roommate also got a contract. Good friends with his mentor, Paul Heyman. John Felix Anthony Cena Jr is the family-friendly face of the WWE...who cheated on his wife, Elizabeth, before their divorce. Rumors persist that WWE paid her off to not say anything *too* bad about their "paragon of virtue". Refuses to even consider committing to the woman he's been dating since 2012. To be fair but not judgmental, Brock has a child out of wedlock and separated from Rena for period of time so it's not like his domestic life has been completely smooth.
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Post by Hobby Drifter on Sept 19, 2014 0:37:30 GMT -5
Family Values: Brock Edward Lesnar is the man who has been married to the love of his life, and mother of his children, for years. He has put his health and well-being on the line in various contact sports for years in the interest of providing the best possible life for them. Refused to sign with the company unless his friend/roommate also got a contract. Good friends with his mentor, Paul Heyman. John Felix Anthony Cena Jr is the family-friendly face of the WWE...who cheated on his wife, Elizabeth, before their divorce. Rumors persist that WWE paid her off to not say anything *too* bad about their "paragon of virtue". Refuses to even consider committing to the woman he's been dating since 2012. To be fair but not judgmental, Brock has a child out of wedlock and separated from Rena for period of time so it's not like his domestic life has been completely smooth. This is true. But the separation was before they were married. Also, it seems that he's always taken care of his oldest daughter. Fearing not being around to see her grow up was one of the factors that influenced his decision to leave WWE. Brock Lesnar and the Rock. Arguably the only two people to ever GET more from the wrestling business than they GAVE.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Sept 19, 2014 1:34:52 GMT -5
This thing with Lesnar is just WEIRD. I mean, after the way he left the first time, he'd been kind of swept under the rug in the company. And, of course, fans weren't exactly thrilled with his decision, either. But, years later, we learned that it wasn't so much a case of him getting a better offer from someplace else or just "taking his ball and going home". It was a clear case of his realizing that, if he kept doing what he was doing, the way he was doing it, he was going to wind up like every other old guy on the roster. Hurt. Addicted to pain-killers (and worse). Travelling constantly. Missing his children grow up. Ultimately discarded when he was of no further use to the company. And, as a young dude with a lot of prospects, he chose to NOT keep doing that. Before he left, though, his last attempt to keep going wound up getting his friend (a licensed pilot) a steady job with a WWE paycheck. He nearly made a pro football team WITHOUT PLAYING IN COLLEGE. He won the friggin' UFC Championship while a disease was literally eating him from the inside. You find out that, off camera, he's just this normal, private dude who loves his family and his friends more than anything in the world. Whenever he DOES show up on TV, he does something worth seeing. Be it awesome matches, insane promos, or just completely random screams and lines like Say something stupid! Now that he's back, current and former WWE guys have been nothing but complimentary about the guy's first WWE run. He did his best to take care of everybody he worked with, even if he wasn't anybody's best buddy. Even CM Punk, who by most accounts isn't the easiest person to get along with and is famously displeased with "part time" wrestlers...calls Lesnar a nice guy. He just seems like an all around good dude. An all around good dude who could, without question, absolutely obliterate nearly any person walking the Earth. In a rare interview about his personal life, Lesnar said "It's pretty basic. Train, sleep, family, fight. It's my life. I like it. I came from nothing, and at any moment, you can back to having nothing." Cena('s character)'s only real complaint about the dude is that he's not there every week and that he does this for money. The last part seems disingenuous coming from a guy with more cars than Jay Leno and a custom-made Cenamobile. The first part is just another reason to like Lesnar MORE. He's not there every week because, unlike EVERYBODY ELSE BEFORE HIM, he managed to get that concession from WWE. Big money. Few dates. None of the bull**** that leaves older wrestlers in such rough shape. It's legitimately hard NOT to cheer for a guy like that. Brock explained on his book how the company ends up owning the guys' lives. He was about to sign his contract with the WWF at the time, before handing the contract over, Jim Ross, the head of talent relations said to Brock. "This company is based on 3 things: Family, Faith, and Federation." Brock didn't understood wtf he was talking about and signed the deal, then over the next couple of years he got it. Family; you end up losing it because you never see them, you're never home and when you return you're to hurt and just lay in bed, your kids grow up without knowing you. Brock said that not seeing his daughter was brutal. It's gotta be fought just seeing your loved ones few times in a month, no wonder the divorce rate is brutal in wrestling, like Nash biggest motivation to join WCW was to save his marriage and spend more time with his family, he also said that most wrestling wives just are by themselves on a big empty house, that can't be a good environment it sounds painful to be so lonely. Faith: Once you lose your family, you put everything behind the job so you stop thinking about your broken marriage. But the WWE is a 24/7 job, you wrestle, get hurt, pop pills, go to the bar, the next day you gotta get up early so you can do radio and tv press, then the gym, then repeat. Just to get by Brock admitted to develop a bad pill and vodka addiction. Combine that with the travel, Brock said that people were envious that he would get to travel so much, but every city looks the same, you go from the airport to the hotel then to the venue, when you get out really late, you need to drive to the next town. The worker ends up losing faith in everything but wrestling. For some guys the wwe ends up becoming their lives, they end up becoming the gimmick, Flair for example, check out old Randy Orton and compare him with this one, the guy who just wanted to see his daughter. Or kinda like Cena on total divas (if it wasn't scripted) his house always looked clean, because he's never there. Like the guys forget how to be normal. Federation: it's easy, you lose your family then your faith, then the company becomes your life. To me Brock unlike Cena and others, was never a mark for himself, he wanted to compete and return home and have a normal life with his family.
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Post by Hobby Drifter on Sept 19, 2014 1:43:04 GMT -5
This thing with Lesnar is just WEIRD. I mean, after the way he left the first time, he'd been kind of swept under the rug in the company. And, of course, fans weren't exactly thrilled with his decision, either. But, years later, we learned that it wasn't so much a case of him getting a better offer from someplace else or just "taking his ball and going home". It was a clear case of his realizing that, if he kept doing what he was doing, the way he was doing it, he was going to wind up like every other old guy on the roster. Hurt. Addicted to pain-killers (and worse). Travelling constantly. Missing his children grow up. Ultimately discarded when he was of no further use to the company. And, as a young dude with a lot of prospects, he chose to NOT keep doing that. Before he left, though, his last attempt to keep going wound up getting his friend (a licensed pilot) a steady job with a WWE paycheck. He nearly made a pro football team WITHOUT PLAYING IN COLLEGE. He won the friggin' UFC Championship while a disease was literally eating him from the inside. You find out that, off camera, he's just this normal, private dude who loves his family and his friends more than anything in the world. Whenever he DOES show up on TV, he does something worth seeing. Be it awesome matches, insane promos, or just completely random screams and lines like Say something stupid! Now that he's back, current and former WWE guys have been nothing but complimentary about the guy's first WWE run. He did his best to take care of everybody he worked with, even if he wasn't anybody's best buddy. Even CM Punk, who by most accounts isn't the easiest person to get along with and is famously displeased with "part time" wrestlers...calls Lesnar a nice guy. He just seems like an all around good dude. An all around good dude who could, without question, absolutely obliterate nearly any person walking the Earth. In a rare interview about his personal life, Lesnar said "It's pretty basic. Train, sleep, family, fight. It's my life. I like it. I came from nothing, and at any moment, you can back to having nothing." Cena('s character)'s only real complaint about the dude is that he's not there every week and that he does this for money. The last part seems disingenuous coming from a guy with more cars than Jay Leno and a custom-made Cenamobile. The first part is just another reason to like Lesnar MORE. He's not there every week because, unlike EVERYBODY ELSE BEFORE HIM, he managed to get that concession from WWE. Big money. Few dates. None of the bull**** that leaves older wrestlers in such rough shape. It's legitimately hard NOT to cheer for a guy like that. Brock explained on his book how the company ends up owning the guys' lives. He was about to sign his contract with the WWF at the time, before handing the contract over, Jim Ross, the head of talent relations said to Brock. "This company is based on 3 things: Family, Faith, and Federation." Brock didn't understood wtf he was talking about and signed the deal, then over the next couple of years he got it. Family; you end up losing it because you never see them, you're never home and when you return you're to hurt and just lay in bed, your kids grow up without knowing you. Brock said that not seeing his daughter was brutal. It's gotta be fought just seeing your loved ones few times in a month, no wonder the divorce rate is brutal in wrestling, like Nash biggest motivation to join WCW was to save his marriage and spend more time with his family, he also said that most wrestling wives just are by themselves on a big empty house, that can't be a good environment it sounds painful to be so lonely. Faith: Once you lose your family, you put everything behind the job so you stop thinking about your broken marriage. But the WWE is a 24/7 job, you wrestle, get hurt, pop pills, go to the bar, the next day you gotta get up early so you can do radio and tv press, then the gym, then repeat. Just to get by Brock admitted to develop a bad pill and vodka addiction. Combine that with the travel, Brock said that people were envious that he would get to travel so much, but every city looks the same, you go from the airport to the hotel then to the venue, when you get out really late, you need to drive to the next town. The worker ends up losing faith in everything but wrestling. For some guys the wwe ends up becoming their lives, they end up becoming the gimmick, Flair for example, check out old Randy Orton and compare him with this one, the guy who just wanted to see his daughter. Or kinda like Cena on total divas (if it wasn't scripted) his house always looked clean, because he's never there. Like the guys forget how to be normal. Federation: it's easy, you lose your family then your faith, then the company becomes your life. To me Brock unlike Cena and others, was never a mark for himself, he wanted to compete and return home and have a normal life with his family. Dead on. And I respect the hell out of him for it. Good on him a thousand times over, at least one of which is specifically for NOT letting "THIS BUSINESS" rule, run, ruin, and replace him.
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Post by Hobby Drifter on Sept 19, 2014 21:32:27 GMT -5
www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLhNc4Dj9MYCan't help but notice that neither Cole nor Lesnar mentions that John Cena bullied, threatened, and assaulted the "guy who talks for Lesnar". Hell, they mention that Cena was "looking for a fight" but not the part where after Cena's attempt to take on Lesnar head-on failed, he snuck up behind him and attacked like a coward. Dug Lesnar's delivery, though. It was like, "Hey. I love this job. And I'm really good at it. And I don't really care about any of the other bull****." Reminds me a lot of older Steve Austin interviews.
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Futureraven: Beelzebruv
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Sept 20, 2014 18:22:44 GMT -5
I just figured out who Brock reminds me of in another sport.
For Formula 1 fans out there, he's Kimi Raikonnen.
A guy with prodigious talent, who just wouldn't put up with any of the bullshit that went along with it.
He didn't want to be interviewed, so he'd either say nothing, or just swear on air till they learned to leave him alone.
Going for a race win, his team telling him what to do, he tells them to shut up because he knows what he's doing.
He literally shows up, races, leaves.
And has become super popular as an anti-corporate hero, so a face run for Brock would have so much potential.
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