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Post by Martin: #TeamBella Treasurer on Sept 18, 2014 22:57:36 GMT -5
Glasgow votes YES Yes - 194,739 No - 169,347 Ah, Glasgow, we got an Aye, but we have become the first country in history to reject independence. Good night guys
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Post by Famous Rocking Chimes on Sept 18, 2014 23:07:45 GMT -5
I've always considered myself proud to be Scottish. Never again. What a wasted opportunity.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2014 23:33:26 GMT -5
Scotland rejects independence from Great Britain BBC News reports.
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Post by Milkman Norm on Sept 18, 2014 23:42:09 GMT -5
As an American with no real dog in this and just watching because I'm election geek it seems as if the Yes side was far behind, had great movement until about 3 days ago or so and then when Cameron,Clegg and Miliband made their pledge of something Better Together regained a bit of lost ground. It also seems as if The No side over performed in some areas whereas Yes seemed to under-perform.
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Post by Zaq "That Guy" Buzzkill on Sept 18, 2014 23:46:47 GMT -5
I think the decision maker will be North Kilttown.
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Post by Sc on Sept 18, 2014 23:48:21 GMT -5
I've always considered myself proud to be Scottish. Never again. What a wasted opportunity. But a No vote is probably better for Scotland than a Yes vote. Becoming an independent nation would have been a disaster and they're still getting more power now. The ones that got screwed by this referendum, regardless of the outcome, are the UK and any other nation in the EU separatist problems.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2014 23:52:33 GMT -5
I feel like, That with how close this was it'll be revistied down the line.
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Post by mattperiolat on Sept 18, 2014 23:56:24 GMT -5
Man, it's rough. I knew it would probably be rejected and it is probably for the best, but darn. Disappointed, really. But, you cannot say those who wanted it did not fight for it.
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Post by DiBiase is Good on Sept 18, 2014 23:57:53 GMT -5
Ouch for Salmond there with Aberdeenshire declaring a big win for no. And Edinburgh votes no.
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Post by DiBiase is Good on Sept 18, 2014 23:58:56 GMT -5
Argyllshire and Bute votes no too. Scotland 85000 no votes away from remaining in the UK.
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Post by DiBiase is Good on Sept 19, 2014 0:03:48 GMT -5
Scotland rejects independence from Great Britain BBC News reports. It's the United Kingdom, not Great Britain and it's a forecast rather than a official result. Even if yes won overall, Scotland couldn't be independent from Great Britain unless they had some serious demolition equipment. Great Britain is the island itself (and the smaller surrounding isles).
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Post by DiBiase is Good on Sept 19, 2014 0:09:25 GMT -5
And there it is, Scotland remains part of the UK.
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Post by mattperiolat on Sept 19, 2014 0:12:36 GMT -5
And there it is, Scotland remains part of the UK. Scotland has decided. Let us hope they can live with the decision. I hope this does lead to more change in the UK in the future. For me, I sigh and continue to dream.
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Post by Famous Rocking Chimes on Sept 19, 2014 0:13:29 GMT -5
I've always considered myself proud to be Scottish. Never again. What a wasted opportunity. But a No vote is probably better for Scotland than a Yes vote. Becoming an independent nation would have been a disaster and they're still getting more power now. The ones that got screwed by this referendum, regardless of the outcome, are the UK and any other nation in the EU separatist problems. I'm going to try and be optimistic since there's a No vote, but Scotland has well and truly shook the political tree of Westminster and indeed the world. Despite what the overall result suggests, they were not expecting this kind of turnout for the Yes campaign and they won't be happy about it. If Westminster do pull through on these new powers for Scotland, I will hold up my hands and admit they held up on their end of the bargain, but until then I'm going to be completely cynical about the whole thing. At the very least, I'll be able to tell my children and grandchildren that I tried to provide them with a better upbringing, and that I did my very best to try and do that for them. That was what was most important to me throughout this whole referendum. On a more humourous note, at least James Bond still represents Scotland. I always thought Sean Connery was the best Bond anyway.
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Post by 4real on Sept 19, 2014 0:14:20 GMT -5
Honestly my political knowledge is at an absolute zero I find politics very hard to follow as I have the attention span of Dory out of Finding Nemo so I'm just going to make some jokes.
Scotland has voted no....Jim Carrey is furious.
Thank you I'm here all week. Seriously though I've always considered Scotland an independent nation regardless of this result. Yes it's still a part of the U.K. but it still has it's own identity and beliefs.
My sister now lives in Aberdeen with her boyfriend and voted. She hasn't told me how she voted yet. I'm assuming she voted yes and won't admit to it because she's a sore loser!
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Post by DiBiase is Good on Sept 19, 2014 0:14:47 GMT -5
And there it is, Scotland remains part of the UK. Scotland has decided. Let us hope they can live with the decision. I hope this does lead to more change in the UK in the future. For me, I sigh and continue to dream. They may have voted no but this is the biggest wake-up call for UK Politics in a long time.
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Sept 19, 2014 0:17:52 GMT -5
American here.
The "Yes" votes would have had it if they actually had a coherent plan for how exactly things would have worked out in a post-UK Scotland. It really didn't seem that way from what I saw. Every time someone asked the "yes" advocates that question the answer always seemed to come down to the same answer people have given for why I should not be so critical of the WWE, "Wait and see."
It's the same problem the U.S. had after it gained it's independence from England. Everyone was all up and ready to fight the British to become our own country and then when that was done, we decided to start our new country with the disastrous Articles of Confederation. Obviously, it ended up working out in the end but that first stumbling block could have been avoided had there been something better already decided on before declaring independence.
This will be a wake up call for the better in UK politics though. Scotland will receive more of a voice in the UK government so as to avoid another vote like this.
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Post by 4real on Sept 19, 2014 0:19:50 GMT -5
So why do you guys think ultimately Scotland has voted no? Because they still want to be apart of the U.K or more of a fear factor or the unknown?
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Post by Famous Rocking Chimes on Sept 19, 2014 0:26:53 GMT -5
So why do you guys think ultimately Scotland has voted no? Because they still want to be apart of the U.K or more of a fear factor or the unknown? I think it really boiled down to the undecided portion of the voting community taking the safe option. It was in the Better Together leaflets that were handed out. "If you don't know, Vote No". Of course I was a Yes voter so it might just be the biased option but that might be exactly what happened.
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Post by Tessmachers-Ass-Fan on Sept 19, 2014 0:27:03 GMT -5
Oh snap.
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