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Post by Hit Girl on Jan 3, 2015 18:20:59 GMT -5
I feel bad for Reigns because he's over and popular, yet people are trying their hardest to delegitimize the guy and what he's accomplished because they don't want him "stealing" the spot of one of their golden boys None of this is happening But I suspect you know that.
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Post by Sparkybob on Jan 3, 2015 18:40:24 GMT -5
Roman Reigns gets paid more attention here on FAN than he does in actual WWE bookers. Good grief.
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Post by thelonewolf527 on Jan 3, 2015 19:17:45 GMT -5
I feel bad for Reigns because he's over and popular, yet people are trying their hardest to delegitimize the guy and what he's accomplished because they don't want him "stealing" the spot of one of their golden boys None of this is happening But I suspect you know that. Bullshit none of this is happening. I said two months ago just wait until December/January and you'll find dozens of threads every day about people trying to find every reason in the book to shit on Reigns and that's exactly what's happened here. He's not ready, he hasn't had enough matches, he's too young, he hasn't been in the business long enough, his gear is weird, Bryan's back, Ziggler's getting a push, he doesn't deserve a big moment, Vince likes him, he's related to The Rock, the Slammy's may or may not have been rigged, the crowd didn't go nuts for him that one time, he doesn't have enough moves, his matches haven't been long enough, they're gonna turn him into Cena, I like the other Shield guys better, WWE's retarded for liking Reigns and deserve a hijacking if he wins, push Ambrose, you owe us for last year, his promos aren't long enough, his catchphrase is dumb, and so on and so forth. I have NEVER seen a community try to find THIS many reasons to shit on a guy who's over besides Reigns, hence why I stand by my point.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Jan 3, 2015 19:21:21 GMT -5
None of this is happening But I suspect you know that. Bullshit none of this is happening. I said two months ago just wait until December/January and you'll find dozens of threads every day about people trying to find every reason in the book to shit on Reigns and that's exactly what's happened here. He's not ready, he hasn't had enough matches, he's too young, he hasn't been in the business long enough, his gear is weird, Bryan's back, Ziggler's getting a push, he doesn't deserve a big moment, Vince likes him, he's related to The Rock, the Slammy's may or may not have been rigged, the crowd didn't go nuts for him that one time, he doesn't have enough moves, his matches haven't been long enough, they're gonna turn him into Cena, I like the other Shield guys better, WWE's retarded for liking Reigns and deserve a hijacking if he wins, push Ambrose, you owe us for last year, his promos aren't long enough, his catchphrase is dumb, and so on and so forth. I have NEVER seen a community try to find THIS many reasons to shit on a guy who's over besides Reigns, hence why I stand by my point. Those are not legitimate reasons to shit on the guy, but those ARE legit arguments for why they should cool off on his push.
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Post by Hit Girl on Jan 3, 2015 19:29:43 GMT -5
It isn't.
The main reason people have criticised Reigns' push is that he's not ready.
And they are right. He isn't.
Really? Never.
Re-read your own posts. You've been doing just that regarding Daniel Bryan, albeit with far less rationale. I mean seriously, it's almost pathological.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2015 19:39:35 GMT -5
FAN gets drunk before it talks Roman Reigns.
The same people hijack these Roman threads and repeat the same crap and it's incredibly tiresome. Take a day off once in a while and work on new material.
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Post by thelonewolf527 on Jan 3, 2015 19:41:19 GMT -5
It isn't. The main reason people have criticised Reigns' push is that he's not ready. And they are right. He isn't. Really? Never. Re-read your own posts. You've been doing just that regarding Daniel Bryan, albeit with far less rationale. I mean seriously, it's almost pathological. Keyword there is community, and my reaction to Bryan's push was one towards the overreaction of the community, which is the same exact concept here. People overreacting to something happening acting like it's the end of the world when it isn't. And my rationale is still based on legitimate observations and not opinions like most of the criticism against Reigns.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Jan 3, 2015 19:44:13 GMT -5
It isn't. The main reason people have criticised Reigns' push is that he's not ready. And they are right. He isn't. Really? Never. Re-read your own posts. You've been doing just that regarding Daniel Bryan, albeit with far less rationale. I mean seriously, it's almost pathological. Keyword there is community, and my reaction to Bryan's push was one towards the overreaction of the community, which is the same exact concept here. People overreacting to something happening acting like it's the end of the world when it isn't. And my rationale is still based on legitimate observations and not opinions like most of the criticism against Reigns. My legitimate observation of Reigns is that there are other wrestlers who are more ready to take that next big step in their careers before he is.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Jan 3, 2015 19:45:37 GMT -5
FAN gets drunk before it talks Roman Reigns. The same people hijack these Roman threads and repeat the same crap and it's incredibly tiresome. Take a day off once in a while and work on new material. As I said before, Roman Reigns has really got FAN feeling some type of way.
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Post by thelonewolf527 on Jan 3, 2015 19:46:15 GMT -5
Keyword there is community, and my reaction to Bryan's push was one towards the overreaction of the community, which is the same exact concept here. People overreacting to something happening acting like it's the end of the world when it isn't. And my rationale is still based on legitimate observations and not opinions like most of the criticism against Reigns. My legitimate observation of Reigns is that there are other wrestlers who are more ready to take that next big step in their careers before he is. That's an opinion, not a legitimate observation. Observation: Daniel Bryan and Randy Orton already wrestled 4 straight pay-per-views in a row for the title. Opinion: Other people are better.
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Post by aliciafoxfan on Jan 3, 2015 19:46:45 GMT -5
I feel bad he has so much hate already and he's not even being pushed that hard yet. I'm a fan of the guy.
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Post by Hit Girl on Jan 3, 2015 19:48:52 GMT -5
It isn't. The main reason people have criticised Reigns' push is that he's not ready. And they are right. He isn't. Really? Never. Re-read your own posts. You've been doing just that regarding Daniel Bryan, albeit with far less rationale. I mean seriously, it's almost pathological. Keyword there is community, and my reaction to Bryan's push was one towards the overreaction of the community, which is the same exact concept here. People overreacting to something happening acting like it's the end of the world when it isn't. And my rationale is still based on legitimate observations and not opinions like most of the criticism against Reigns. There wasn't an overreaction to Bryan's push. He was and is immensely popular. That's why his push is deserved. Your reaction was and is blatant contrarianism, with little or no rationale. And the observations and criticism against Reigns not being ready are justified.
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Post by thelonewolf527 on Jan 3, 2015 19:52:43 GMT -5
Keyword there is community, and my reaction to Bryan's push was one towards the overreaction of the community, which is the same exact concept here. People overreacting to something happening acting like it's the end of the world when it isn't. And my rationale is still based on legitimate observations and not opinions like most of the criticism against Reigns. There wasn't an overreaction to Bryan's push. He was and is immensely popular. That's why his push is deserved. Your reaction was and is blatant contrarianism, with little or no rationale. And the observations and criticism against Reigns not being ready are justified. THAT'S AN OPINION You can justify the fact you have an opinion, but you can't justify the opinion itself as legitimate fact. Who says Reigns isn't ready? Just because some fans on the internet do doesn't make it a fact. That has less justification than my argument last year of "I don't want to see Bryan vs Orton main event because it happened 15 times over the last year and I want something different."
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Post by Hit Girl on Jan 3, 2015 19:58:02 GMT -5
There wasn't an overreaction to Bryan's push. He was and is immensely popular. That's why his push is deserved. Your reaction was and is blatant contrarianism, with little or no rationale. And the observations and criticism against Reigns not being ready are justified. THAT'S AN OPINIONYou can justify the fact you have an opinion, but you can't justify the opinion itself as legitimate fact. Who says Reigns isn't ready? Just because some fans on the internet do doesn't make it a fact. That has less justification than my argument last year of "I don't want to see Bryan vs Orton main event because it happened 15 times over the last year and I want something different." It's an informed, reasoned opinion. Those are more credible than opinions based on nothing, such as opposing the push of a massively popular wrestler, in two successive years. One doesn't need to be an internet fan to come to that conclusion.
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Post by thelonewolf527 on Jan 3, 2015 20:00:35 GMT -5
THAT'S AN OPINIONYou can justify the fact you have an opinion, but you can't justify the opinion itself as legitimate fact. Who says Reigns isn't ready? Just because some fans on the internet do doesn't make it a fact. That has less justification than my argument last year of "I don't want to see Bryan vs Orton main event because it happened 15 times over the last year and I want something different." It's an informed, reasoned opinion. Those are more credible than opinions based on nothing, such as opposing the push of a massively popular wrestler, in two successive years. One doesn't need to be an internet fan to come to that conclusion. Well you're opposing the push of a popular wrestler too based on intangible justification that has a non-quantifiable basis in "being ready" versus my justification for not wanting Bryan vs Orton based on a quantifiable value in how many times they've wrestled, so I would think that mine is the one based on an actual fact, whereas yours is based on nothing
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Post by Hit Girl on Jan 3, 2015 20:03:55 GMT -5
It's an informed, reasoned opinion. Those are more credible than opinions based on nothing, such as opposing the push of a massively popular wrestler, in two successive years. One doesn't need to be an internet fan to come to that conclusion. Well you're opposing the push of a popular wrestler too based on intangible justification that has no quantified basis as "being ready" versus my justification for not wanting Bryan vs Orton based on a quantifiable value in how many times they've wrestled, so I would think that mine is the one based on an actual fact, whereas yours is based on nothing I'm not opposing Reigns being pushed. He can be given a sustained push that builds momentum and allows him to improve throughout the year, without throwing him to the proverbial lions by booking him to win the Rumble and defeat Lesnar at Wrestlemania when it's obvious what the reaction will be. WWE needs to learn from their mistakes last year. Reigns not being ready is not based on intangibles. It's based on his demonstrated limitations at present.
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Post by The Unconquered Sun on Jan 3, 2015 20:04:16 GMT -5
I actually like his matches, its his mic work that bothers me. That's where he really needs improvement before he gets to be the face of the company.
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Post by Mayonnaise on Jan 3, 2015 20:06:33 GMT -5
Well this thread isn't an embarrassment or anything. How about instead of tying to one up and take shots at each other by trying to turn your opinions into fact, you try and act like adults?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2015 20:08:18 GMT -5
He needs his first long term feud against an experienced wrestler that will help bring out the best out of him. I need to know more about Reigns and I need to see him be weak at times to really care about him. Match him up against, say, Luke Harper and let them feud for a few months. Reigns could only benefit from that.
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Post by thelonewolf527 on Jan 3, 2015 20:08:55 GMT -5
Well this thread isn't an embarrassment or anything. How about instead of tying to one up and take shots at each other by trying to turn your opinions into fact, you try and act like adults? I'd like to request then that as we had last year with Bryan, we get one single "Roman Reigns push" thread so the board doesn't have to get cluttered with the tons of threads that keep popping up about the guy every day. I think that would make it better and at least concentrated instead of spread out He needs his first long term feud against an experienced wrestler that will help bring out the best out of him. I need to know more about Reigns and I need to see him be weak at times to really care about him. Match him up against, say, Luke Harper and let them feud for a few months. Reigns could only benefit from that. The thing though is that Reigns has already beaten Batista, Orton, Rollins, Big Show, CM Punk, etc over the last year. Why exactly would we doubt that he can't beat Harper when Harper can't even beat Dolph Ziggler?
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