Anyone actually feel bad for Reigns?

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Since the whole Survivor Series elimination aspect in 2013 (damn can't believe it's already 2015) we've seen the rise of Reigns. With that, getting the record number of eliminations, only Shield member to beat Punk, seen as the new "big dog" and all this stuff. He was the only Shield member to get a title shot out the gate because Triple H "thought it would be good for business" which is bullshit but hey, let's keep going.

By now everyone can see that Reigns is the "Chosen One" or the "Golden Boy" who they want to be the new Cena. The booking points to it, we can see it. Hell, Rollins called Reigns the Golden Boy a week after he turned on the Shield and joined the Authority which I don't think was planned but hey it is what it is. Now we see reports that they might have him win the Rumble and beat Brock for the title. Fans are slowly catching onto Reigns, we hear boos, we have legends like Austin, Foley and JR making comments towards his progression, I mean we see it. He needs work on the mic, in the ring, overall in general and with that said....

Anyone feel bad for Reigns?

This guy's just going out there doing his thing and trying to take the torch but even he probably knows he's not ready. There are more qualified guys on the roster who are upper-midcard (Ambrose, Rollins for example) who'd be able to handle it but Reigns not right now if we just him as a whole needs some MAJOR work. I fear this is going to cause Reigns to be the new "Sheamus" and by that he'll be a failed main event act who will be inserted into the main event scene whenever they need him too and frankly, it's annoying to me because I like Reigns.

I really do like Reigns but this booking is going to end up failing. I feel bad for him because there's nothing he can do about it. He can't improve a certain level to WM time and I feel he'll be hindered once it blows up in everyone's face. It's like they're strapping the rocket to his back and he doesn't know how to maneuver around the asteroids.

The saddest part is that we can all see his potential. He has the look, he's athletic, we see him learning, he'll get better and he has the genes for it but with that said you just can't rush it. You just can't do it. Look at Austin, if they gave him the torch as a face "Ringermaster" it wouldn't work. If they gave it to Rocky as the "Bluechipper" it wouldn't work. Once they fail with a talent that'll probably be it for him. I mean it is what it is and this is something we don't wanna see. I feel bad for the guy because it's really not his fault for "getting it" since it can't be rushed. I'm being turned against Reigns by the booking and it annoys me because I think he's a cool dude but hey, it is what it is and it happens.

Anyone else in the same boat?

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I want to like Reigns, but WWE isn't letting me.

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Jan 3, 2015 1:30:04 GMT -5 CATCH_US IS the Conversation said:

I want to like Reigns, but WWE isn't letting me.

With me is that I like Reigns but the longer this goes on the more I don't like him. The longer they push him to the top of the ladder the more I don't want to see it. I hate seeing this dude in these main angles now all because of this company. Even the alleged "Reigns would have beaten Rusev had Big Show not interfered" on SD this week pissed me off.

Same thing happened with Sheamus. The more they pushed the guy the more I hated it. Now that Sheamus is just a midcarder, I can tolerate him (well I'll hate him when he'll undoubtedly go heel on Bryan this month).

Eventually you just get sick of dudes.

[Allie Kitsune]

I don't hate someone just because Vince (yes, and Dunn the Bridge Troll) likes them.

I do worry that Reigns is going to be ruined by being put in a position where he'll never be able to improve, but I'm not going to turn on him just because Management likes him and others are shitting on him for that reason.

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Jan 3, 2015 1:34:14 GMT -5 @kn said:

Jan 3, 2015 1:30:04 GMT -5 CATCH_US IS the Conversation said:

I want to like Reigns, but WWE isn't letting me.

With me is that I like Reigns but the longer this goes on the more I don't like him. The longer they push him to the top of the ladder the more I don't want to see it. I hate seeing this dude in these main angles now all because of this company. Even the alleged "Reigns would have beaten Rusev had Big Show not interfered" on SD this week pissed me off.

Same thing happened with Sheamus. The more they pushed the guy the more I hated it. Now that Sheamus is just a midcarder, I can tolerate him (well I'll hate him when he'll undoubtedly go heel on Bryan this month).

Eventually you just get sick of dudes.

I actually liked Sheamus' main event run. Sheamus was never shoved in our faces as badly as Reigns was. Yeah he won the title early, but as a heel he was depicted as a bully and a coward. As a face he was never really pushed all that hard outside of winning all the time,. Even 18 Seconds, the moment that was supposedly going to "make" him, was all about Bryan and AJ. The entire story of Sheamus' face run is him being kept strong for no apparent reason (which is honestly how everyone should be booked).

Also Sheamus had the seasoning and the talent to actually justify that kind of treatment.

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I feel sorry for him. I do think he has the potential to be huge and he is legitimately trying, but he's just plain not ready yet, probably knows it, and is likely going to have his prospects wrecked by being given too much too soon.

[nickcave]

Reigns is someone that is probably going to be really good in 3-4 years but is really not ready for that level now.

[came2piecesinmyhands]

I don't know whether the right word is pity or empathy. Basically when I have to do a presentation at work I have this same facial expression:




I bet the dude is really worried in the mornings wondering how he's going to F up and what stupid thing creative are going to tell him to say.

[thelonewolf527]

I feel bad for Reigns because he's over and popular, yet people are trying their hardest to delegitimize the guy and what he's accomplished because they don't want him "stealing" the spot of one of their golden boys

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Jan 3, 2015 2:08:18 GMT -5 thelonewolf527 said:

I feel bad for Reigns because he's over and popular, yet people are trying their hardest to delegitimize the guy and what he's accomplished because they don't want him "stealing" the spot of one of their golden boys

He's over and popular because WWE want him to be over and popular. Why can't the machine put all that hype behind guys who already have everything put together or have actually worked to improve?

[Hit Girl]

No, because he's still in a good spot, but simply needs to improve and develop.


Whether he does or not, is up to him.

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I took a visceral pleasure in the eating alive of Batista, even though I like Batista but what WWE were doing was so screwbally that they really needed to hear it. The relentless beating WWE got through the beginning of 2014 was a very therapeutic thing.

With Reigns it's a different story because even though the path of least resistance continues to be to bank on Bryan, it sucks that it's Reigns that's in the crosshairs because I do think he's better than given credit for, and he might rise to the occasion, I just don't see it happening and I don't see the crowds being easy on him in the meantime. So yeah I do feel bad, because this isn't exactly the same problem as last year. It's another case of WWE pushing a guy in the face of what the easy crowd pleasing answer is, but at least it's a new guy. I was fine with Batista eating a bit of shit because it's not like Batista's going to suffer in the end, really. This could be make or break territory for Reigns.

[gnr123]

Jan 3, 2015 2:08:18 GMT -5 thelonewolf527 said:

I feel bad for Reigns because he's over and popular, yet people are trying their hardest to delegitimize the guy and what he's accomplished because they don't want him "stealing" the spot of one of their golden boys

People aren't trying their hardest to delegitimize the guy, the facts are right in the front of you. He's clearly not ready and WWE pushing him now (especially over a more over and talented Daniel Bryan) will only hurt him. Simple as that. I used to be one of the people who thought he was "the future," when he was with The Shield. Than when he was moved into a singles wrestler, his flaws really came out, on the mic and in the ring, and his personality (of lack there-of) isn't helping matters. If he was good and ready, a lot of the criticism towards him wouldn't be around. But, he's clearly not when he's freezing up on promo's and has mediocre matches with a guy like Seth Rollins.

[FAR5222]

No. Why should I? Is he paying my bills? Is he making the product better for me as I watch? The answer is no. Dude is probably making 150-200 grand a year.Why should I feel "bad" for him? Why because someone like me who is a WWE Network subscriber bitches on the Internet about his apparent lack of certain skills. Dude is living the life most us would like to have.

[xCompackx]

I'm still a fan of Roman Reigns and I'd like to imagine that he isn't bothered too much by what people on the Internet say about him.

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Jan 3, 2015 2:26:43 GMT -5 xCompackx said:

I'm still a fan of Roman Reigns and I'd like to imagine that he isn't bothered too much by what people on the Internet say about him.

It's hard to tell.

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I like the guy. Dude has major main event potential. I just don't want him get the 2014 Batista treatment and get him ruined. If the end game is to purposely duplicate the 2014 Batista situation as a planned heel turn in which he excels as an excellent heel that makes him popular with the crowd and turns him into 2000 Rock levels of Babyface popularity by God it'll be the greatest booking trick WWE has ever done.

PS I'm drunk

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Jan 3, 2015 2:36:40 GMT -5 @supersweetbotch said:

I like the guy. Dude has major main event potential. I just don't want him get the 2014 Batista treatment and get him ruined. If the end game is to purposely duplicate the 2014 Batista situation as a planned heel turn in which he excels as an excellent heel that makes him popular with the crowd and turns him into 2000 Rock levels of Babyface popularity by God it'll be the greatest booking trick WWE has ever done.

PS I'm drunk

That shouldn't be a "plan". WWE should actually try to find something that works for a guy, not intentionally make them unpopular so that they have an excuse to retool them.

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Jan 3, 2015 2:36:40 GMT -5 @supersweetbotch said:

I like the guy. Dude has major main event potential. I just don't want him get the 2014 Batista treatment and get him ruined. If the end game is to purposely duplicate the 2014 Batista situation as a planned heel turn in which he excels as an excellent heel that makes him popular with the crowd and turns him into 2000 Rock levels of Babyface popularity by God it'll be the greatest booking trick WWE has ever done.

PS I'm drunk

That's one of the only thing I'm hoping for if they do give Reigns the Rumble win, Brock win and title.

If he wins, I want him to immediately turn heel the night after WM and just be an asshole. Have Reigns be the real corporate champion and have him feud with Bryan. Have Reigns do well as Rollins enters Orton's old place late last year before Rollins turns face sometime before Summerslam. Reigns would find his character as a heel I think. He has the look, family, he can play a better heel I think, at least right now.

It worked for Rock, worked for Austin, works for a lot of guys. Sometimes they need to be heel to find themselves. That might be for Reigns needs.

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Jan 3, 2015 2:23:14 GMT -5 gnr123 said:

Jan 3, 2015 2:08:18 GMT -5 thelonewolf527 said:

I feel bad for Reigns because he's over and popular, yet people are trying their hardest to delegitimize the guy and what he's accomplished because they don't want him "stealing" the spot of one of their golden boys

People aren't trying their hardest to delegitimize the guy, the facts are right in the front of you. He's clearly not ready and WWE pushing him now (especially over a more over and talented Daniel Bryan) will only hurt him. Simple as that. I used to be one of the people who thought he was "the future," when he was with The Shield. Than when he was moved into a singles wrestler, his flaws really came out, on the mic and in the ring, and his personality (of lack there-of) isn't helping matters. If he was good and ready, a lot of the criticism towards him wouldn't be around. But, he's clearly not when he's freezing up on promo's and has mediocre matches with a guy like Seth Rollins.

Pretty much. Hell, even if his matches on free TV were just kind of okay instead of being as dull as they actually are, he still has no place main-eventing Mania as a character when it will be at most his third singles PPV match in his career. He's not developed as a singles worker, as a character, or as a speaker.