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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Mar 9, 2015 22:24:13 GMT -5
I'm so glad that Cena is now fine with using terrorist tactics after getting all mad at Rollins for threatening to break Edge's neck back last year.
Obviously, you could make the argument that Rollins' threat was more severe but, in theory, it's the exact same idea. Cena held someone hostage and threatend serious harm until an outside party gave him what he wanted. What an asshole.
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Post by The Sam on Mar 9, 2015 22:27:58 GMT -5
But if he didn't threaten to break that civilian neck in front of his interpreter, then he wouldn't get another opportunity to lose to him...or something.
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Post by Instant Classic on Mar 9, 2015 22:28:31 GMT -5
Thing is Edge is retired due to injuries which pretty much puts the fight out of his hands. Plus Cena warned Rusev.
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Post by Demented on Mar 9, 2015 22:29:01 GMT -5
Cena should have never spinned with Wiz Khalifa.
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Post by mrbananagrabber on Mar 9, 2015 22:31:31 GMT -5
I know there's a trend to ask "who the real face/heel is", but that was awful. Why in the name of f*** would anyone want Cena to win? He LOST. That's it. Rusev wants to fight someone else, Cena would be in that battle royal piece of shit if Steph hadn't told him no, so now you try and murder someone to get on the card?
Just..flat out abysmal booking, making me despise the super hero USA face. f*** that.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2015 22:32:54 GMT -5
To play devil's advocate though, was there really any route they could have taken with this "convince Rusev to accept the match" angle that wouldn't have been annoying? Whether it's costing him the title before the PPV, calling him Commander Doodybottoms and giving him a photoshop assault, or beating the shit out of him this was never meant to be any fun.
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Post by H-Virus on Mar 9, 2015 22:32:59 GMT -5
Didn't Stephanie specifically say that it was up to RUSEV to give Cena a match? Since it was Lana, that means it shouldn't count, right?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2015 22:32:59 GMT -5
Consistency, thy name is Cena.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Mar 9, 2015 22:33:41 GMT -5
Thing is Edge is retired due to injuries which pretty much puts the fight out of his hands. Plus Cena warned Rusev. How does that excuse what Cena did though? Rusev made a couple of comments about America (which he does pretty much every week) and it caused Cena to go nuclear. His reaction was completely disproportional to what Rusev actually did. He went out there with a plan to fit his own selfish needs. If this was Austin, it'd be one thing. But, Cena is supposed to stand for all that is righteous and good. The fact that his morals are so loosely defined is ridiculous. If I warned you that I was gonna punch you in the mouth if you looked in my direction, it wouldn't make me any less of an asshole for hitting you. Because my reaction went too far. I did not use a reasonable amount of force for what the situation called for. |
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Mar 9, 2015 22:34:47 GMT -5
To play devil's advocate though, was there really any route they could have taken with this "convince Rusev to accept the match" angle that wouldn't have been annoying? Whether it's costing him the title before the PPV, calling him Commander Doodybottoms and giving him a photoshop assault, or beating the shit out of him this was never meant to be any fun. He could have offered something in return for the match. It's cliche, but he could put his career on the line or something. |
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Mar 9, 2015 22:35:37 GMT -5
To play devil's advocate though, was there really any route they could have taken with this "convince Rusev to accept the match" angle that wouldn't have been annoying? Whether it's costing him the title before the PPV, calling him Commander Doodybottoms and giving him a photoshop assault, or beating the shit out of him this was never meant to be any fun. That's true but that begs the question. If this was the best payoff they could come up with, why even bother with the story? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2015 22:36:40 GMT -5
That's true but that begs the question. If this was the best payoff they could come up with, why even bother with the story? Gotta' keep Cena strong. |
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Post by Instant Classic on Mar 9, 2015 22:37:43 GMT -5
Thing is Edge is retired due to injuries which pretty much puts the fight out of his hands. Plus Cena warned Rusev. How does that excuse what Cena did though? Rusev made a couple of comments about America (which he does pretty much every week) and it caused Cena to go nuclear. His reaction was completely disproportional to what Rusev actually did. He went out there with a plan to fit his own selfish needs. If this was Austin, it'd be one thing. But, Cena is supposed to stand for all that is righteous and good. The fact that his morals are so loosely defined is ridiculous. If I warned you that I was gonna punch you in the mouth if you looked in my direction, it wouldn't make me any less of an asshole for hitting you. Because my reaction went too far. I did not use a reasonable amount of force for what the situation called for. What can you expect from the guy? Rusev/Lana are the only people who can make Rusev vs Cena happen at Wrestlemania. I don't think he's just gonna keep asking nicely. |
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Mar 9, 2015 22:38:32 GMT -5
How does that excuse what Cena did though? Rusev made a couple of comments about America (which he does pretty much every week) and it caused Cena to go nuclear. His reaction was completely disproportional to what Rusev actually did. He went out there with a plan to fit his own selfish needs. If this was Austin, it'd be one thing. But, Cena is supposed to stand for all that is righteous and good. The fact that his morals are so loosely defined is ridiculous. If I warned you that I was gonna punch you in the mouth if you looked in my direction, it wouldn't make me any less of an asshole for hitting you. Because my reaction went too far. I did not use a reasonable amount of force for what the situation called for. What can you expect from the guy? Rusev/Lana are the only people who can make Rusev vs Cena happen at Wrestlemania. I don't think he's just gonna keep asking nicely. Suck it up and accept that, in life, you don't always get your way? |
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Post by kevin on Mar 9, 2015 22:39:24 GMT -5
Cena always had a dangerous side where he does not care about his opponents. He has tried to kill ADR by crushing him in equipment and threw Batista off a car after the match was won and there was no reason to. Yet he can also calm quickly look at last week where he threaten to hurt Axel to the point where he could not walk and he calmed down quickly to where he just treated it like a normal match.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Mar 9, 2015 22:39:47 GMT -5
If this was going anywhere, it could be an interesting twist to Cena's character.
Since it's not, Cena's just a dick.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2015 22:40:07 GMT -5
To play devil's advocate though, was there really any route they could have taken with this "convince Rusev to accept the match" angle that wouldn't have been annoying? Whether it's costing him the title before the PPV, calling him Commander Doodybottoms and giving him a photoshop assault, or beating the shit out of him this was never meant to be any fun. He could have offered something in return for the match. It's cliche, but he could put his career on the line or something. That's a better idea, but even that eventually leads to the eventual "seen it a thousand times" Cena triumph. We've been too conditioned not to buy into any stipulation laid down as it pertains around Cena. To play devil's advocate though, was there really any route they could have taken with this "convince Rusev to accept the match" angle that wouldn't have been annoying? Whether it's costing him the title before the PPV, calling him Commander Doodybottoms and giving him a photoshop assault, or beating the shit out of him this was never meant to be any fun. That's true but that begs the question. If this was the best payoff they could come up with, why even bother with the story? That's the John Cena paradox right now. Cena being hard done by and then overcoming the odds is something we've had for ten years, even if the story was well told it's hard not to watch it and scream ENOUGH ALREADY. |
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Post by Instant Classic on Mar 9, 2015 22:40:04 GMT -5
What can you expect from the guy? Rusev/Lana are the only people who can make Rusev vs Cena happen at Wrestlemania. I don't think he's just gonna keep asking nicely. Suck it up and accept that, in life, you don't always get your way? but..... but, it's John Cena. |
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Post by berlynwright on Mar 9, 2015 22:41:08 GMT -5
Cena always had a dangerous side where he does not care about his opponents. He has tried to kill ADR by crushing him in equipment and threw Batista off a car after the match was won and there was no reason to. Yet he can also calm quickly look at last week where he threaten to hurt Axel to the point where he could not walk and he calmed down quickly to where he just treated it like a normal match. maybe he took the boos to his heart and worked as heel in his matches? it has happened many times before with Punk goading Del Rio for a WWE title match |
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Post by ritt works hard fo da chickens on Mar 9, 2015 22:44:34 GMT -5
I already figured the writers didn't watch the show. Now I wonder if the writers even talk to each other or just email rough outlines of the story up to this point.
Last year at Mania Cena's big angle was if he would lose his moral compass because of all that Bray was trying. This year ... F morals we need Bad Ass Amurica F YEAH!
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