hassanchop
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Post by hassanchop on Apr 19, 2015 3:48:24 GMT -5
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Post by RedSmile on Apr 19, 2015 9:13:55 GMT -5
I'd like to know how taking a picture of a stranger's ass is celebrating or honoring women. Dude is being completely dishonest, here. Just admit that you saw a hot piece of ass, because that's all it was.
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Post by MC Blowfish on Apr 19, 2015 9:31:03 GMT -5
He might not be doing anything that we all don't do. However the difference is that he posted it online. Oh I'm sure a lot of people post stuff online. But as I said earlier, he's a celebrity who's followed by more than his friends and relatives. Thus, his picture is getting more attention and hate. And it probably doesn't help that a lot of those people don't know him. In that sea of followers across the internet, you know there are a bunch who are self righteous or judgemental and won't hesitate to post their opinion for all to be heard. Again, I'm not condoning his actions. Just trying to explain. Why this is blowing up the way it has. You can explain all you want. I'll stick to my opinion that he had no right to post that picture, let alone take it.
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Post by xCompackx on Apr 19, 2015 10:19:40 GMT -5
I still don't see what the big deal is. I'm sure there's been plenty of pictures of men posted online with no clear indicator as to whether permission was given or not.
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Post by Mid-Carder on Apr 19, 2015 10:24:10 GMT -5
He posted a voyeuristic photo of a stranger's ass. That's creepy. And I've seen people say, "Well, he meant it as a compliment." Okay, cool. Next time you see an attractive stranger on the street, just go ahead and take their picture without their permission and justify it by saying, "But I think you're hot!" Lemme know how that works out. Maybe people should think about this before they go out in public wearing something that just barely covers their ass cheeks. It wasn't even body shaming so wtf So where is the line drawn, then? Does this mean anybody can put anybody's picture on the internet with patronising captions if they like/don't like/are offended by somebody else's outfit?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2015 11:18:18 GMT -5
I see both sides here. On one hand, this story is not worth any outrage (much like 95% of the stories that are supposed to make us mad nowadays). However, I get the consent aspect of this. The girl obviously has a nice body, but if she doesn't want her picture on the internet, then she's perfectly entitled to that. Of course, that assumes she even knows that picture is circulating right now. I'm sure she will eventually if some of her friends noticed her, um, "body".
On a related note, I wonder how many people offended by this were contributing to the Divas Pics thread before the Mods had to (rightfully) change the rules of what could be posted in that thread. That was the dictionary definition of perverted.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2015 11:21:57 GMT -5
I see both sides here. On one hand, this story is not worth any outrage (much like 95% of the stories that are supposed to make us mad nowadays). However, I get the consent aspect of this. The girl obviously has a nice body, but if she doesn't want her picture on the internet, then she's perfectly entitled to that. Of course, that assumes she even knows that picture is circulating right now. I'm sure she will eventually if some of her friends noticed her, um, "body". On a related note, I wonder how many people offended by this were contributing to the Divas Pics thread before the Mods had to (rightfully) change the rules of what could be posted in that thread. That was the dictionary definition of perverted. I don't know man. Are we even entitled to that anymore? It's starting to feel like, outside of your own home, everything's fair game. Don't get me wrong, I think that's awful, but that is the nature of everyone having a camera and a social media account to post something. No one really has a say in the matter anymore.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2015 11:28:58 GMT -5
I'm not saying that what he did was right at all. That's just a majorly creepy thing to do in general, but you do have to have some modicum of self-awareness when you leave your house in certain outfits. If you walked around in a bathing suit everywhere, chances are, you're going to get some pervos staring at you.
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Post by Mid-Carder on Apr 19, 2015 11:30:28 GMT -5
On a related note, I wonder how many people offended by this were contributing to the Divas Pics thread before the Mods had to (rightfully) change the rules of what could be posted in that thread. That was the dictionary definition of perverted. The divas are women who are putting themselves in the spotlight and, in many cases, trying to get people to notice their appearances. Hence their relentless selfies etc. This girl is not that. She was just minding her own business in a cafe. There's a world of difference.
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Post by Reflecto on Apr 19, 2015 11:54:36 GMT -5
So where is the line drawn, then? Does this mean anybody can put anybody's picture on the internet with patronising captions if they like/don't like/are offended by somebody else's outfit? But that ties into another question, where's the line drawn on the other side? What Buble said ABOUT the picture is the biggest issue here, paying attention to the actual woman- but from how the photograph was taken, the woman was in the background of the picture, while Buble was front and center and clearly the subject of the picture. For this problem, it's clear what Buble did is wrong. However, from people saying it was wrong that he didn't get the person's permission (when she was in the background), that is the other side: Where's the line drawn? If you're at a big public event like a concert or a stadium and you're taking a picture of yourself, do you need to go straight down the line and ask every single person who's head may conceivably show up in the background of your picture if you can have permission to take that picture? Buble should not have drawn attention to the person, but at the same time the picture itself was so clearly the background of an inconsequential picture of himself that there has to be some level of request there.
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Post by Mid-Carder on Apr 19, 2015 11:55:49 GMT -5
So where is the line drawn, then? Does this mean anybody can put anybody's picture on the internet with patronising captions if they like/don't like/are offended by somebody else's outfit? Buble should not have drawn attention to the person, but at the same time the picture itself was so clearly the background of an inconsequential picture of himself that there has to be some level of request there. It isn't. He's in the forefront of a picture in which she is the unwilling subject.
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Post by chazraps on Apr 19, 2015 12:00:28 GMT -5
He's making a spectacle of a total stranger without their consent.
Being a celebrity, he's essentially catcalling her in front of millions, objectifying her without her even being aware.
He's body shaming because he's saying THIS IS SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE NEED TO SEE ON THE INTERNET like she's a freak. Regardless if that's complimentary or not, the point is he's making her a spectacle. Look at the Venus Hottentot.
I'm surprised there are people here defending this. A person should be in control of their own sexuality, and that includes having a say in how objectified images of themselves appear online,
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Post by Reflecto on Apr 19, 2015 12:01:23 GMT -5
Buble should not have drawn attention to the person, but at the same time the picture itself was so clearly the background of an inconsequential picture of himself that there has to be some level of request there. It isn't. He's in the forefront of a picture in which she is the unwilling subject. That would be more reasonable, and would be a different story- yes.
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Post by chazraps on Apr 19, 2015 12:03:16 GMT -5
He posted a voyeuristic photo of a stranger's ass. That's creepy. And I've seen people say, "Well, he meant it as a compliment." Okay, cool. Next time you see an attractive stranger on the street, just go ahead and take their picture without their permission and justify it by saying, "But I think you're hot!" Lemme know how that works out. Maybe people should think about this before they go out in public wearing something that just barely covers their ass cheeks. It wasn't even body shaming so wtf Are you serious saying "she was asking for it?"
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Post by Urethra Franklin on Apr 19, 2015 12:41:43 GMT -5
I still don't see what the big deal is. I'm sure there's been plenty of pictures of men posted online with no clear indicator as to whether permission was given or not. Just curious: When you read about instances of racism, do you immediately think, "Well, I'm sure white people have experienced it, too"?
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Post by willywonka666 on Apr 19, 2015 12:44:10 GMT -5
What if she was beating a kid or something else that's wrong and he, or anyone for that matter posted it without her consent?
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Post by Urethra Franklin on Apr 19, 2015 13:09:21 GMT -5
What if she was beating a kid or something else that's wrong and he, or anyone for that matter posted it without her consent? Seriously?
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Post by willywonka666 on Apr 19, 2015 13:11:16 GMT -5
What if she was beating a kid or something else that's wrong and he, or anyone for that matter posted it without her consent? Seriously? Some would argue that one
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Post by Urethra Franklin on Apr 19, 2015 13:27:01 GMT -5
Some would argue that one I'm assuming that, if somebody has a problem discerning the difference between a creepy shot of a stranger's ass and documenting an assault, he has a few more problems than just that.
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Post by willywonka666 on Apr 19, 2015 13:37:58 GMT -5
I wonder if the girl even has a problem with it, right now, all the media is running with is she must be embarrassed and ashamed but it's not like anyone even knows who she is
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