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Post by pegasuswarrior on Nov 9, 2015 22:24:13 GMT -5
"If you think that makes me a jerk, that’s fine." Ok, well, as long as you're ok with it ... jerk. This article makes me think even less than him. Not ONCE does he acknowledge the true incident of the crime. He gazed right at the pitcher and then flipped it. He didn't celebrate it. He looked right at the pitcher with an "eff you, I'm better" and flipped it. He didn't just flip a bat. He looked the man down. Straight up thug. Instead of "owning it," he turns it into a Dusty Rhodes speech. Read that article. Such an egomaniac. Comparing that scene to Carlton Fisk? Geezus. Makes me wanna puke. Not even in the same league. (Ahem, one of them is bush league.) I understand if he just says "emotions got the best of me." That was his initial claim. Except again, he didn't acknowledge that he eyeballed the pitcher before the arrogant flip. Now, he's wallowing in ego and practically saying "get on my back. Who's with me? #ThugLife" Celebrate? Yes. Middle finger to the game with your antics? Go to the NBA, ya prick. I'm totally fine with Jose Bautista exercising his right to flip his bat. When it happened in game five of the ALDS, I didn't even bat an eyelash. Hell, I root for a team that employs David Ortiz and nobody in baseball history has showboated more during and after a home run than Big Papi. But just as fine as I am with Bautista tossing his bat, I'm just as fine with Sam Dyson putting a fastball in his ribs the next time they square off. If and when that happens, I won't caterwaul about the integrity of the game or playing baseball the right way. But as an aside, I wholeheartedly agree with you that Bautista's op-ed does him no favors and makes him look like a massive primadonna. A home run in the 7th inning of a tie game in the Divisional Series is miles different than an extra innings home run to force a seventh game in the World Series or a home run that literally wins the World Series. Much respect for this take on the issue. Well put.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2015 23:25:27 GMT -5
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Post by Urethra Franklin on Nov 9, 2015 23:26:03 GMT -5
That's terrifying news about Hanson. Really hope there's good news to come out of this, whatever triggered it. On a lighter note, great write up by Jose Bautista on the subject of bat flips...well, more than that, but you get the point. "Are You Flipping Kidding Me?" "If you think that makes me a jerk, that’s fine." Ok, well, as long as you're ok with it ... jerk. This article makes me think even less than him. Not ONCE does he acknowledge the true incident of the crime. He gazed right at the pitcher and then flipped it. He didn't celebrate it. He looked right at the pitcher with an "eff you, I'm better" and flipped it. He didn't just flip a bat. He looked the man down. Straight up thug. Instead of "owning it," he turns it into a Dusty Rhodes speech. Read that article. Such an egomaniac. Comparing that scene to Carlton Fisk? Geezus. Makes me wanna puke. Not even in the same league. (Ahem, one of them is bush league.) I understand if he just says "emotions got the best of me." That was his initial claim. Except again, he didn't acknowledge that he eyeballed the pitcher before the arrogant flip. Now, he's wallowing in ego and practically saying "get on my back. Who's with me? #ThugLife" Celebrate? Yes. Middle finger to the game with your antics? Go to the NBA, ya prick. I never understand when people clutch their pearls when a pro athlete's celebration is too much for their liking. You're talking like he pulled down his pants and pooped on the mound. He celebrated the biggest hit of his life. Would you prefer him apologize to every Ranger around he base for ending their season? People telling him to act like he's been there before? He literally hadn't. I'd probably be pretty pissed off if I were Sam Dyson, but then again, I just gave up a giant home run, so if I could blame somebody else for anything at that given moment, I think I would.
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Post by Some Guy on Nov 10, 2015 0:00:59 GMT -5
That's terrifying news about Hanson. Really hope there's good news to come out of this, whatever triggered it. On a lighter note, great write up by Jose Bautista on the subject of bat flips...well, more than that, but you get the point. "Are You Flipping Kidding Me?" "If you think that makes me a jerk, that’s fine." Ok, well, as long as you're ok with it ... jerk. This article makes me think even less than him. Not ONCE does he acknowledge the true incident of the crime. He gazed right at the pitcher and then flipped it. He didn't celebrate it. He looked right at the pitcher with an "eff you, I'm better" and flipped it. He didn't just flip a bat. He looked the man down. Straight up thug. Instead of "owning it," he turns it into a Dusty Rhodes speech. Read that article. Such an egomaniac. Comparing that scene to Carlton Fisk? Geezus. Makes me wanna puke. Not even in the same league. (Ahem, one of them is bush league.) I understand if he just says "emotions got the best of me." That was his initial claim. Except again, he didn't acknowledge that he eyeballed the pitcher before the arrogant flip. Now, he's wallowing in ego and practically saying "get on my back. Who's with me? #ThugLife" Celebrate? Yes. Middle finger to the game with your antics? Go to the NBA, ya prick. Thug? For bat flipping...seriously? Who even gives a shit
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Post by fw91 on Nov 10, 2015 0:01:41 GMT -5
Rockies SS Jose Reyes was arrested on suspicion of domestic assault in Hawaii. sigh..................
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Post by Chilly McFreeze on Nov 10, 2015 0:36:42 GMT -5
To update the Tommy Hanson story, it's being reported that he died.
Real shame. I remember when he came up with the Braves and was looking like a top of the rotation type guy, until shoulder problems derailed things. Still just 29.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Nov 10, 2015 2:30:47 GMT -5
That's terrifying news about Hanson. Really hope there's good news to come out of this, whatever triggered it. On a lighter note, great write up by Jose Bautista on the subject of bat flips...well, more than that, but you get the point. "Are You Flipping Kidding Me?" "If you think that makes me a jerk, that’s fine." Ok, well, as long as you're ok with it ... jerk. This article makes me think even less than him. Not ONCE does he acknowledge the true incident of the crime. He gazed right at the pitcher and then flipped it. He didn't celebrate it. He looked right at the pitcher with an "eff you, I'm better" and flipped it. He didn't just flip a bat. He looked the man down. Straight up thug. Instead of "owning it," he turns it into a Dusty Rhodes speech. Read that article. Such an egomaniac. Comparing that scene to Carlton Fisk? Geezus. Makes me wanna puke. Not even in the same league. (Ahem, one of them is bush league.) I understand if he just says "emotions got the best of me." That was his initial claim. Except again, he didn't acknowledge that he eyeballed the pitcher before the arrogant flip. Now, he's wallowing in ego and practically saying "get on my back. Who's with me? #ThugLife" Celebrate? Yes. Middle finger to the game with your antics? Go to the NBA, ya prick. So why is it wrong, an insult to the game, and makes him a thug, but when a pitcher does the Hulk thing after striking someone out that's no problem? People get pissed at batters for daring to show emotion, and Bautista looked at the pitcher for maybe half a second, but when a pitcher celebrates nobody bats an eye. The unwritten rules of baseball are shit, and are a big reason why it's lost popularity.
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Post by HMARK Center on Nov 10, 2015 7:04:25 GMT -5
Yeah, and really, playing the "thug" card plays right into the point Bautista's making about some of the insanely unfortunate implications that often exist behind all the pearl-clutching. The guy flipped a bat and looked at a pitcher. Whoop dee do. Game 5 of that series was insanely emotional, and it looked like both clubs were caught up in it. It was a great thing for baseball, and not something to shy away from or shame.
Anyway, the Hanson and Reyes news brought me down this morning. Good God.
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Post by pegasuswarrior on Nov 10, 2015 7:21:14 GMT -5
"If you think that makes me a jerk, that’s fine." Ok, well, as long as you're ok with it ... jerk. This article makes me think even less than him. Not ONCE does he acknowledge the true incident of the crime. He gazed right at the pitcher and then flipped it. He didn't celebrate it. He looked right at the pitcher with an "eff you, I'm better" and flipped it. He didn't just flip a bat. He looked the man down. Straight up thug. Instead of "owning it," he turns it into a Dusty Rhodes speech. Read that article. Such an egomaniac. Comparing that scene to Carlton Fisk? Geezus. Makes me wanna puke. Not even in the same league. (Ahem, one of them is bush league.) I understand if he just says "emotions got the best of me." That was his initial claim. Except again, he didn't acknowledge that he eyeballed the pitcher before the arrogant flip. Now, he's wallowing in ego and practically saying "get on my back. Who's with me? #ThugLife" Celebrate? Yes. Middle finger to the game with your antics? Go to the NBA, ya prick. So why is it wrong, an insult to the game, and makes him a thug, but when a pitcher does the Hulk thing after striking someone out that's no problem? People get pissed at batters for daring to show emotion, and Bautista looked at the pitcher for maybe half a second, but when a pitcher celebrates nobody bats an eye. The unwritten rules of baseball are shit, and are a big reason why it's lost popularity. The strike is why it fell out of favor. Never fully recovered. Was killing in ratings comparatively and still relevant in pop culture. Keeping thug life out of the game didn't cause the game to lose popularity. That's insane to me. There are plenty of other Bautista-esque players and moments out there. Which ones are the iconic moments that everyone remembers and are so popular? Well, the answer is none. Every celebration image that made/makes baseball popular (past and present) is one of joy or amazement, but none of them are middle fingers to another player. So not having stare-down Baustista for the past 20 years is why baseball isn't popular? Hmm. Check again. It's because the game showed up its audience, bat-flipped, and went home. Residual effects for the years that followed and babies were growing up in that era. Baseball is a generational game. No one just "picks it up" much. When they took that away, they gutted a generational popularity and also ran off once loyal adults who have better things to do that keep going back to a sport that bat-flips them out of favor. Everyone keeps saying "celebrate." If your idea of celebrating is eyeballing the pitcher and giving the "man up, I'm better," then your version of celebrating is sad. Also, I'm beaning you right between the eyes next time. And I didn't say crap about the same not pertaining to some pitchers. You do NOT stare down another player unless you are begging for repercussions later. I think the pitcher post-game comments were weak as well. Don't give up a long ball, I say. The game can regulate itself. No reason to cry about it afterward. I used to think that the throwing at someone thing was the stupidest thing in the world. But in some rare cases, I can now see it. Baseball is one of the only games in the world where behavior can be in-game regulated by players. If it keeps the NBA attitudes curbed in Major League Baseball, then burying one or two or three in someone's rib cage works for me. Bautista and Bautsita fans are going to be the first ones crying when arms come gunning for him. Yet, same people would be flying off the handle and complaining if someone flamed and insulted them in public. I see this crap all the time: this no shame entitlement in and out of sports. As soon as the tables are turned, here will come the victim card. Again, for those who choose not to read, celebration would've been fine. He clearly made it about him and the pitcher as soon as it left his bat. it is a matter of perception, and some people apparently cant see what the rest of us do and vice versa. I didn't see a celebration. I saw oneupmansship, and that's why I say thug. Didn't look like genuine joy to me. Looked like empty and wasted alpha male protectionism to me. Joe Carter went nuts. Iconic moment. Bautista had a moment to shine and put a spitshine on a Toronto legacy moment. Instead, he and the moment just look like spit compared to the other historic iconic home runs.
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Post by Some Guy on Nov 10, 2015 7:33:59 GMT -5
Why is Brian McCann posting on FAN?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2015 7:39:39 GMT -5
So why is it wrong, an insult to the game, and makes him a thug, but when a pitcher does the Hulk thing after striking someone out that's no problem? People get pissed at batters for daring to show emotion, and Bautista looked at the pitcher for maybe half a second, but when a pitcher celebrates nobody bats an eye. The unwritten rules of baseball are shit, and are a big reason why it's lost popularity. The strike is why it fell out of favor. Never fully recovered. Was killing in ratings comparatively and still relevant in pop culture. Keeping thug life out of the game didn't cause the game to lose popularity. That's insane to me. There are plenty of other Bautista-esque players and moments out there. Which ones are the iconic moments that everyone remembers and are so popular? Well, the answer is none. Every celebration image that made/makes baseball popular (past and present) is one of joy or amazement, but none of them are middle fingers to another player. So not having stare-down Baustista for the past 20 years is why baseball isn't popular? Hmm. Check again. It's because the game showed up its audience, bat-flipped, and went home. Residual effects for the years that followed and babies were growing up in that era. Baseball is a generational game. No one just "picks it up" much. When they took that away, they gutted a generational popularity and also ran off once loyal adults who have better things to do that keep going back to a sport that bat-flips them out of favor. Everyone keeps saying "celebrate." If your idea of celebrating is eyeballing the pitcher and giving the "man up, I'm better," then your version of celebrating is sad. Also, I'm beaning you right between the eyes next time. And I didn't say crap about the same not pertaining to some pitchers. You do NOT stare down another player unless you are begging for repercussions later. I think the pitcher post-game comments were weak as well. Don't give up a long ball, I say. The game can regulate itself. No reason to cry about it afterward. I used to think that the throwing at someone thing was the stupidest thing in the world. But in some rare cases, I can now see it. Baseball is one of the only games in the world where behavior can be in-game regulated by players. If it keeps the NBA attitudes curbed in Major League Baseball, then burying one or two or three in someone's rib cage works for me. Bautista and Bautsita fans are going to be the first ones crying when arms come gunning for him. Yet, same people would be flying off the handle and complaining if someone flamed and insulted them in public. I see this crap all the time: this no shame entitlement in and out of sports. As soon as the tables are turned, here will come the victim card. Again, for those who choose not to read, celebration would've been fine. He clearly made it about him and the pitcher as soon as it left his bat. it is a matter of perception, and some people apparently cant see what the rest of us do and vice versa. I didn't see a celebration. I saw oneupmansship, and that's why I say thug. Didn't look like genuine joy to me. Looked like empty and wasted alpha male protectionism to me. Joe Carter went nuts. Iconic moment. Bautista had a moment to shine and put a spitshine on a Toronto legacy moment. Instead, he and the moment just look like spit compared to the other historic iconic home runs. Yup barely a couple milliseconds he looked at the guy, oh my god
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Post by RKTaker on Nov 10, 2015 8:35:30 GMT -5
To update the Tommy Hanson story, it's being reported that he died. Real shame. I remember when he came up with the Braves and was looking like a top of the rotation type guy, until shoulder problems derailed things. Still just 29. That really sucks the cause of death has come out and says he died from catastrophic organ failure
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Nov 10, 2015 8:46:49 GMT -5
Talking about today, I have three things to say:
1. Being emotional is the "thug life", yeah....pegasuswarrior, you may just want to quit while you're ahead. Even saying that, you already lost the argument.
2. Damn shame to hear what happened to Tommy Hanson. Such a promising career that was killed before it even began with injuries and now we learn that his organs just stopped working for him, the man and his family never can catch a break. RIP Tommy
3. Sure as hell glad that Jose Reyes is no longer in Toronto now (besides the fact that Troy Tulowitzki turned out to be a better shortstop). What the hell is wrong with certain athletes and their need to be abusive crap stains.
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Post by andrew8798 on Nov 10, 2015 17:02:53 GMT -5
The Diamondbacks have hired Matt Williams as their third base coach.
The White Sox have hired Rick Renteria as their new bench coach.
Lance Lynn underwent Tommy John surgery on Tuesday and will miss the entire 2016 season.
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Post by Chilly McFreeze on Nov 10, 2015 19:35:22 GMT -5
Initial police report cites overdose in Tommy Hanson death. That sucks.
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Nov 10, 2015 19:39:38 GMT -5
Pillar didn't win the Gold Glove for Center Fielder..........are you f***ing kidding me!!!
Obvious bias against Toronto on that one.
Oh and they gave the AL Left Fielder Gold Glove to Yoenis Cespedes.....who isn't even in the American League anymore.
What a crock of sh**
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Post by Chilly McFreeze on Nov 10, 2015 19:47:07 GMT -5
I know Crawford is good, but I thought Andrelton Simmons had the Gold Glove reserved for the next decade or so.
Wonder if he can still win the Platinum Glove without winning the GG.
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Nov 10, 2015 19:52:07 GMT -5
I know Crawford is good, but I thought Andrelton Simmons had the Gold Glove reserved for the next decade or so. Wonder if he can still win the Platinum Glove without winning the GG. No, he cannot. And with the Royals winning more than one, I think there is an obvious bias towards giving them awards.
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Nov 10, 2015 19:59:21 GMT -5
Going to be interesting to see what the Cardinals do this off season about Lynn.
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Post by andrew8798 on Nov 10, 2015 20:52:59 GMT -5
Nationals general manager Mike Rizzo said Tuesday that clubs have asked him about the availability of Drew Storen and Jonathan Papelbon.
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