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Post by Grand Papillon "The Banker" on Jul 12, 2016 21:26:54 GMT -5
Meh, at best she was Michelle McCool. Passable in the ring and wooden on the mic but getting more than they deserved due to who they dated
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Post by Vice honcho room temperature on Jul 12, 2016 21:38:19 GMT -5
Meh, at best she was Michelle McCool. Passable in the ring and wooden on the mic but getting more than they deserved due to who they dated Michelle McCool gets no respect. I mean some yahoo is doing her finisher now in the WWE
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Post by Dub H on Jul 12, 2016 21:46:39 GMT -5
She already got more than she deserves
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Post by The Tank on Jul 12, 2016 21:49:20 GMT -5
But, she does get the respect she deserves.
...because she gets none.
.........because she sucks at wrestling and being a wrestling personality.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Jul 12, 2016 21:51:10 GMT -5
But, she does get the respect she deserves. ...because she gets none. .........because she sucks at wrestling and being a wrestling personality. Mmmmm, oh my god... Just because Nikki isn't putting on four star Meltzer classics doesn't mean she sucks. If everyone is awesome then no one is.
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Post by Derk! on Jul 12, 2016 21:54:18 GMT -5
She's the least worst of the Diva's. That's the only positive I can think of.
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Post by Dub H on Jul 12, 2016 21:54:38 GMT -5
But, she does get the respect she deserves. ...because she gets none. .........because she sucks at wrestling and being a wrestling personality. Mmmmm, oh my god... Just because Nikki isn't putting on four star Meltzer classics doesn't mean she sucks. If everyone is awesome then no one is. No, the fact that she has no personality , sends people to sleep on the Mic and is passable in the ring means she suck.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Jul 12, 2016 21:56:31 GMT -5
People better respect the Lioness.
Paws up or get rolled on.
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Post by xxshoyuweeniexx on Jul 12, 2016 22:32:55 GMT -5
Meh, at best she was Michelle McCool. Passable in the ring and wooden on the mic but getting more than they deserved due to who they dated A less talented McCool though. Michelle could at least lead people to pretty decent matches over time and had actual ring psychology. Nikki, God bless her for trying, just seems like she does a bunch of strong style moves with zero rhyme or reason or psychology other than it "looks cool".
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2016 22:34:14 GMT -5
Nikki Bella is the Big Sean of the WWE.
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Post by Widow's Peak on Jul 12, 2016 22:37:39 GMT -5
Nikki has improved from being terrible to being passable.
I still prefer her over Brie.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Jul 12, 2016 22:40:05 GMT -5
Nikki Bella improved a lot. When she showed up in 2008 or so, the Bellas were both horrible. They stayed that way until leaving the company in 2012. However, after returning in 2013, they showed steady improvement, with Nikki being the better of the two. Her title reign did feature bad acting, but I much preferred it to Charlotte's current reign of boredom.
Sure she would still do some not so good things (working the arm in matches for the sake of working a body part) and I'm not saying she was incredible. She is no Sasha Banks, Bull Nakano or Asuka, but I respect her improvement.
Also, I hate the excuse of bringing up who she is dating. If everything she got was purely because of Cena, she could have never worked to improve and gotten the reign. Instead, she trained with Cena (just like Brie did with Bryan), got better and became pretty popular from Total Divas, to the point where she was the right choice to hold the title. Until the NXT girls showed up last summer, there was no other girl on the main roster that was a better choice.
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Post by Mozenrath on Jul 12, 2016 22:43:46 GMT -5
She got respect, but was in the unfortunate position of being the person poised to take AJ's record, and WWE's pettiness hurt her credibility. I think Rollins got more respectable title defenses than her, Nikki was just given time sink feuds and Brie shenanigans, along with a booking team indifferent to making sense of her storyline. Even Nikki supposedly questioned her ambiguous face/heel standing, or why it was supposed to make sense Brie would be on the same page with her given their feud, and the booking team did not give a flying f***.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Jul 12, 2016 22:46:26 GMT -5
To paraphrase the famous CM Punk promo... It wasn't her, it was this idea of her being the best. I feel like she may have gotten this respect from most of her critics if she wasn't placed right at the forefront of the women's division as the long-running champion, while the rest of the division noticeably improved around her. That's not to say she isn't any good, it's a night and day improvement compared to 2008, but that's just how it was.
Not to mention that any and all stability with her (and Brie's) alignment went straight out the window in 2015... How can one invest in a character if you don't know what it's gonna be from week to week?
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Post by Starshine on Jul 12, 2016 22:52:27 GMT -5
Her title reign sucked so bad they had to get rid of the belt just to get all the stink off of it.
I honestly don't think there is another WWE title reign that I hated as much as that one. And it's less to do with Nikki being the champion, and more to the fact they/she could never decide if she was face or heel. It was just this long drawn out shades of gray shit with heel stuff sprinkled in every now and then, only for her to be then immediately treated as a pioneer for women's wrestling despite the shortcuts her character had taken to get there.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Jul 12, 2016 23:02:39 GMT -5
Her title reign sucked so bad they had to get rid of the belt just to get all the stink off of it. I honestly don't think there is another WWE title reign that I hated as much as that one. And it's less to do with Nikki being the champion, and more to the fact they/she could never decide if she was face or heel. It was just this long drawn out shades of gray shit with heel stuff sprinkled in every now and then, only for her to be then immediately treated as a pioneer for women's wrestling despite the shortcuts her character had taken to get there. The Bellas were heels except when wrestling against Team BAD.
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Post by Starshine on Jul 12, 2016 23:05:39 GMT -5
Her title reign sucked so bad they had to get rid of the belt just to get all the stink off of it. I honestly don't think there is another WWE title reign that I hated as much as that one. And it's less to do with Nikki being the champion, and more to the fact they/she could never decide if she was face or heel. It was just this long drawn out shades of gray shit with heel stuff sprinkled in every now and then, only for her to be then immediately treated as a pioneer for women's wrestling despite the shortcuts her character had taken to get there. The Bellas were heels except when wrestling against Team BAD. That doesn't mean a whole lot when TB made up 50% of the people they wrestled for months on end.
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Post by DrBackflipsHoffman on Jul 12, 2016 23:07:18 GMT -5
I'll remember these Nikki Bella threads more than i'll remember anything about the actual Nikki Bella
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Post by moondoggie on Jul 12, 2016 23:12:14 GMT -5
I would rather watch Camp WWE Nikki Bella than WWE TV Nikki
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Post by Lupin the Third on Jul 12, 2016 23:14:57 GMT -5
To paraphrase the famous CM Punk promo... It wasn't her, it was this idea of her being the best. I feel like she may have gotten this respect from most of her critics if she wasn't placed right at the forefront of the women's division as the long-running champion, while the rest of the division noticeably improved around her. That's not to say she isn't any good, it's a night and day improvement compared to 2008, but that's just how it was. Not to mention that any and all stability with her (and Brie's) alignment went straight out the window in 2015... How can one invest in a character if you don't know what it's gonna be from week to week? I think those two had more heel/face turns than Big Show in that entire year. They were heels, but wanted to be faces for the kids, but still were heels and acted like it, but also wanted to act like faces, and tried to. At that point, I was like, "I don't even know what you two are anymore. Make up your goddamn mind and stick with it."
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