Big Poppa Pumpkin
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Post by Big Poppa Pumpkin on Nov 8, 2016 11:17:45 GMT -5
hold on, hold on, Push Val Venis was Bill Clinton all along?
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Nov 8, 2016 11:19:08 GMT -5
Clinton might have her faults, but Trump's mentality as it relates to...well, everything, should make this a pretty easy decision for most. It should have been enough for most that Ivana Trump had to retract her rape claims as part of their divorce settlement. It should have been enough that Trump's earliest appearances in newspapers was for discriminating against black renters. It should have been enough that that he routinely stiffed contractors for their payments. It should have been enough that he bragged about sexually assaulting women, on video. It should have been enough that his foreign policy calls for committing war crimes. It should have been enough that his rhetoric threatens to undermine the democratic process itself. It should have been enough that the list of his outright lies ticks up faster than a webpage hit counter. (Not that Hilary is a paragon of honesty, but if that is your problem wit her the better alternative damn sure isn't Trump) Maybe it'll be enough today that he flat out lied about Tom Brady endorsing him. Maybe that is where the line is drawn.
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lodirulz
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Post by lodirulz on Nov 8, 2016 11:22:03 GMT -5
Clinton might have her faults, but Trump's mentality as it relates to...well, everything, should make this a pretty easy decision for most. It should have been enough for most that Ivana Trump had to retract her rape claims as part of their divorce settlement. It should have been enough that Trump's earliest appearances in newspapers was for discriminating against black renters. It should have been enough that that he routinely stiffed contractors for their payments. It should have been enough that he bragged about sexually assaulting women, on video. It should have been enough that his foreign policy calls for committing war crimes. It should have been enough that his rhetoric threatens to undermine the democratic process itself. It should have been enough that the list of his outright lies ticks up faster than a webpage hit counter. Maybe it'll be enough today that he flat out lied about Tom Brady endorsing him. Maybe that is where the line is drawn. The line should have been drawn the second the made "those comments" about a certain minority group in his Campaign Announcement speech. It should have not only been drawn, but it should have been framed and hanging in The Smithsonian at this point.
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Post by Session Moth is over on Nov 8, 2016 11:22:59 GMT -5
Trump is a lying, sexist, racist individual, and I don't understand how he has gotten as far as he has. He incites hatred and has done nothing to show he could be president of a nation as powerful as America. As if Trump cares about the working or middle class people.
I'm no fan of Hillary and don't know if I could vote for her (if I had a vote - I'm not American) but it would be either her or spoil my vote.
It's a shame there is no proper left wing choice that is popular enough to run for office.
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domrep
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Post by domrep on Nov 8, 2016 11:24:09 GMT -5
Just my few cents:
1. I understand the right to vote for whomever, voting for Johnson or Stein is a waste of a vote. Oliver destroyed these two on his show about a month ago. Voting for them is just pointless, they're not going to win!
2. I'm with her, she's got a shit ton of issues but facts are facts: SHE IS THE MOST QUALIFIED PERSON TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT EVER. This election has been more personal than I can remember, but no one can deny the fact that she's up for the job. She lives for this shit. There were whispers that Trump basically wanted to make Kasich the defacto President and Trump acts as the figurehead. He'd basically be treating the Presidency as a business.
3. I'm ready for this to be over.
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lionheart21
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Once did a thing...
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Post by lionheart21 on Nov 8, 2016 11:29:40 GMT -5
Trump is a lying, sexist, racist individual, and I don't understand how he has gotten as far as he has. He incites hatred and has done nothing to show he could be president of a nation as powerful as America. As if Trump cares about the working or middle class people. I'm no fan of Hillary and don't know if I could vote for her (if I had a vote - I'm not American) but it would be either her or spoil my vote. It's a shame there is no proper left wing choice that is popular enough to run for office. Those same working class people that support him are the same people who wouldn't even be allowed into the front door of one of his hotels or golf courses.
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Post by Surfer Sandman on Nov 8, 2016 11:30:26 GMT -5
Alright, three things I want to get off my chest for this one: 1. I want Hillary Clinton to win this election. 2. I am bothered that The Republican Party has a pretty solid chance to retain control of The United States Senate, due to their refusal to deal with the vacancy on The Supreme Court. 3: If Trump does pull this off, I am probably going to be doing my best Crow Sting impression, by hanging around rafter balconies, and refusing to speak for a year and a half. From what I've been reading, the Dems have a decent chance of taking the Senate and Presidency. Hopefully that's the case. I am angry enough already with Trump.
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Post by Tessmachers-Ass-Fan on Nov 8, 2016 11:32:00 GMT -5
I can`t decide if i watch it on Colbert or The Daily Show. Colbert has a strong argument for me {Spoiler} On the other hand I doubt that I can get a good stream over here in Europe, and I would have to get up early. :/
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Sephiroth
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Post by Sephiroth on Nov 8, 2016 11:32:19 GMT -5
Alll I will say is that while I'm far from satisfied with the choices I have in this election, I do trust the electoral system, and o even believe that mass scale electoral fraud would be difficult to pull off in our modern day voting apparatus. But that won't stop certain from claiming it must have happened because they will not get the outcome they wanted, as usual,
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Post by xCompackx on Nov 8, 2016 11:37:14 GMT -5
Thing to keep in mind too about Trump is he hinted pretty heavily that he'll challenge the result were Hillary to win. That should tell you a lot when a candidate to a national election for President of the United States might try to sue his way into office because the people of the country he wants to lead didn't vote for him.
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suave
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Post by suave on Nov 8, 2016 11:37:45 GMT -5
Voted Johnson for President, various downballot candidates that I trust and could see doing a good job, and the Chicago Bar Association's recommendations for judges. Regardless of what happens, should be an interesting election to watch. There's a good amount of Trump supporters in my hall, and an almost equal amount of people who despise The Donald, so either way there'll be some fun reactions at the end of this.
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Nov 8, 2016 11:41:10 GMT -5
I think I just read my favorite description of Trump. From an article "This Lifetime GOP Voter Is With Her" foreignpolicy.com/2016/11/06/this-lifetime-gop-voter-is-with-her-why-republicans-should-vote-for-hillary-clinton/?utm_content=bufferee57f&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer"A lot of my Republican friends are incredulous to learn that #ImWithHer. In truth, I’m more than a little surprised myself. If a sane Republican like Jeb Bush, John Kasich, or Marco Rubio had been nominated I wouldn’t be voting for Clinton. But the GOP instead chose to nominate a malevolent carnival barker. So I will cast a ballot for the sane alternative." ... "In the final analysis, the strongest case for Clinton is what she is not. She is not racist, sexist, or xenophobic. She is not cruel, erratic, or volatile. She is not a bully or an authoritarian personality. She is not ignorant or unhinged. Those may be insufficient recommendations against a more formidable opponent. But when she’s running against Donald Trump it’s more than enough."
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Nov 8, 2016 11:45:38 GMT -5
Clinton might have her faults, but Trump's mentality as it relates to...well, everything, should make this a pretty easy decision for most. It should have been enough for most that Ivana Trump had to retract her rape claims as part of their divorce settlement. It should have been enough that Trump's earliest appearances in newspapers was for discriminating against black renters. It should have been enough that that he routinely stiffed contractors for their payments. It should have been enough that he bragged about sexually assaulting women, on video. It should have been enough that his foreign policy calls for committing war crimes. It should have been enough that his rhetoric threatens to undermine the democratic process itself. It should have been enough that the list of his outright lies ticks up faster than a webpage hit counter. (Not that Hilary is a paragon of honesty, but if that is your problem wit her the better alternative damn sure isn't Trump) Maybe it'll be enough today that he flat out lied about Tom Brady endorsing him. Maybe that is where the line is drawn. Or that after going after Hilary for the emails, and after going after Obama for years for his birth certificate, he broke from decades long tradition and never released his tax returns.
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Malcolm
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Post by Malcolm on Nov 8, 2016 11:46:54 GMT -5
I don't want to say much on politics, but all I want to say is that the more I see Trump, the less I like him.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2016 11:47:24 GMT -5
Anyway, I voted for Gary Johnson because I can't stand Hillary or Trump.
In our local races, I voted for John Gregg to be our governor because I agree with his stance & Evan Bayh for the Senate simply because I find Todd Young to be a very lousy human being, especially with his pro Big Business & anti environment stances.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2016 11:50:46 GMT -5
I have seen the report on the woman who claimed she would start a revolution should Hilary win. I have to wonder how many people would do so if their candidate didnt win
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Post by Zaq "That Guy" Buzzkill on Nov 8, 2016 11:52:04 GMT -5
Canadian here giving my two cents.
I just want to remind everyone that the President of the United States not only affects America, but the entire world. So I ask you all to please, please make the right decision. The world is watching, and your vote could shape its history.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Nov 8, 2016 11:53:22 GMT -5
Trump's politicking seems to be worse than his Stunner sell. And that was F***ING ABYSMAL.
(Just making a post so this shows up in Participated when I wake up later)
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Post by Raw is Doodie101 on Nov 8, 2016 11:54:15 GMT -5
As someone from Canada watching this unfold i have to say this: Not once have i heard from either Trump or Hilary what exactly they want to do or policies they want to put in place, except for Trump's wall. The only thing i ever see of them in the news is them trashing the other one. Sad that politics is now at this point Thats just not true. Hillary especially in the Democratic Primary debates constantly went over Policy. It helped that she was debating a man who actually wanted to debate and not be a bully. Anyway the rhetoric that Hillary is just as bad as Donald Trump as a canidate is very annoying. Trump is terrible canidate even before you get to his numerous indiscretions. I'm ready for that rhetoric to be done.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2016 11:54:38 GMT -5
I'm not a fan of Clinton but I am hoping insanely hard that she wins and it's making me kind of batty and paranoid. Just that Trump has reached the point he has is kind of terrifying in terms of all the hateful shit he's said and done and the fact that millions upon millions of people think someone like this is someone to idolize.
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