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Post by DiBiase is Good on Jun 8, 2017 14:06:00 GMT -5
So today, yet again we go to the polls and we're going to allow discussion here. Obviously though there are some additional rules here...
1. Be respectful of other people's opinions.
2. BE RESPECTFUL OF OTHER PEOPLE'S OPINIONS
3. You can say who you voted for and why but do not think this thread is your opportunity to go into a long winded rant on your beliefs.
4. Avoid blanket statements about a party and those who vote for them.
5. No memes or images. Except things like projections, voting maps, swing-o-meters.
We're trusting you to discuss this in a civil manner, please don't make this us lock this up early.
I know with recent events here in the U.K. emotions are running high but please keep any religious discussion out of here.
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Post by eJm on Jun 8, 2017 14:27:34 GMT -5
I think you forgot the rule to be respectful of other people's opinions...
Anyway, I had a "fun" journey to my vote. I'm in Dublin now (long story) so I had to apply for my postal vote and have it changed to where I am here. I did that to deadline and it seemed fine...until we heard nothing about that.
My sister lives with me and we did it around the same time except mine arrived yesterday (Wednesday) and hers hasn't arrived yet. And since mine arrived yesterday, I had to fill it in, literally run to the post office, sign the forms to get it delivered (NEXT DAY DELIVERY), get the money I needed from the bank (my debit card wasn't delivered and, as I found out, not applied for when I opened an account two weeks before), run back, pay for the delivery and send it off.
So Democracy is free. Except mine, which cost me €31.50. Yay.
But it got there and has been registered so it's all good.
Edit: I should clarify that I voted for Labour and end this thing there.
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Jun 8, 2017 14:30:42 GMT -5
Watching live coverage here
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Post by Eunös ✈ on Jun 8, 2017 14:33:19 GMT -5
Voted eairliner today.
I'll be honest, neither of the big parties are filling me with confidence, but it the long run I went with what I felt would benefit me the best.
Vote Labour on this one.
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Post by Hit Girl on Jun 8, 2017 14:38:33 GMT -5
I voted Green. I don't like Corbyn and Farron, and I would never vote for the Tories or UKIP. Before I left the polling station, I took a chocolate biscuit.
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Post by thirteen3 on Jun 8, 2017 14:40:40 GMT -5
I dodled between SNP and Labour and ultimately decided to go with Labour.
I don't want the tories to gain any more traction here and I certainly don't want them to rule the UK anymore.
I swear though if there's a low turnout of young people because of rain, any shit millennials in this country get is truly deserved.
EDIT: well call me Kurt Angle...
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Post by Shai on Jun 8, 2017 14:47:26 GMT -5
So how similar is this to elections in the US? Like is a prime Minster the exact same as a president or not? I tried to look it up but got confused.
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Post by thirteen3 on Jun 8, 2017 14:51:32 GMT -5
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Post by Cyno on Jun 8, 2017 15:15:19 GMT -5
How long is a PM's term, usually before there's another general election for Parliament? IIRC, Cameron's resignation post-Brexit threw a wrench into usual proceedings.
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Post by Push R Truth on Jun 8, 2017 15:17:00 GMT -5
Good luck to my cheery friends across the pond
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Post by Hit Girl on Jun 8, 2017 15:17:40 GMT -5
So how similar is this to elections in the US? Like is a prime Minster the exact same as a president or not? I tried to look it up but got confused. - The UK is divided into 650 parliamentary constituencies with each represented by a single MP elected by the first-past-the-post system. - They serve in the House of Commons, the lower house of the British Parliament. The biggest party forms the Government, with the leader of the party (who is a MP him/herself becoming Prime Minister. The Cabinet is also made up of MP's. - The second largest party in the House of Commons becomes the Opposition, with the leader of the party becoming Leader of the Opposition, and forming a Shadow Cabinet of MP's. - 326 seats are required to form a majority in the House of Commons. If the largest party in the House of Commons is still not large enough to form a majority, a coalition of parties can be formed. - The Prime Minister is the head of government for the United Kingdom, serving as a representative of the Queen. The Queen remains head of state. In a presidential system, a president is head of state, and sometimes head of government too, like in the US system. - If an election ends in a tie, the Queen may decree that the issue be settled by the ancient manner of the sword. Five years hence, lest ye be overthrown by treachery. |
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Post by DiBiase is Good on Jun 8, 2017 15:20:13 GMT -5
How long is a PM's term, usually before there's another general election for Parliament? IIRC, Cameron's resignation post-Brexit threw a wrench into usual proceedings. Normally it's five years but you actually vote for the party, not the person. So if the incumbent Prime Minister quits, the new leader of his/her Political party becomes Prime Minister for the remainder of the term. Gordon Brown and Theresa May have both been Prime Minister in recent times without actually winning an election as a party leader. |
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Post by thirteen3 on Jun 8, 2017 15:22:52 GMT -5
How long is a PM's term, usually before there's another general election for Parliament? IIRC, Cameron's resignation post-Brexit threw a wrench into usual proceedings. Technically there is no limit, but it's usually 5 years for one term. But it is never fixed, so that's why the Current PM can call for an election this year and not wait until 2020. |
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Post by Eunös ✈ on Jun 8, 2017 15:25:42 GMT -5
As far as I'm aware there is no limit as to how long someone can be Prime Minister, unlike the States where the president can serve 2 terms max.
Prime Minister can keep going till they either lose an election or choose to step down.
This is a snap election, 2 months ago we didn't even know we were getting one, wasn't originally due till 2020 I believe.
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Post by Hit Girl on Jun 8, 2017 15:28:00 GMT -5
Five years I think is too long. Three would suffice. It keeps things fresh and responsive.
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Post by Wailing Fungus on Jun 8, 2017 15:37:54 GMT -5
Voted Labour. Don't think it'll be tight, but here's hoping!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2017 15:47:07 GMT -5
Voted Greens as I like their policies, but I live in a Conservative stronghold, so it's sadly an irrelevant vote. Tories are going to win, it's just a question of how much. Will May have enough to have carte blanche, or will she still have to acquiesce to the more extreme elements in her party.
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Post by Gravedigger's Biscuits on Jun 8, 2017 15:55:16 GMT -5
I'm ready to put my foot through the telly in 5 minutes when the exit poll comes out.
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Post by Cyno on Jun 8, 2017 15:56:07 GMT -5
As far as I'm aware there is no limit as to how long someone can be Prime Minister, unlike the States where the president can serve 2 terms max. Prime Minister can keep going till they either lose an election or choose to step down. This is a snap election, 2 months ago we didn't even know we were getting one, wasn't originally due till 2020 I believe. We didn't have term limits mandated by law until FDR died during his 4th term, then everyone realized it's probably not a good idea for someone to be able to be president indefinitely. Before then, 2 terms was the standard established by George Washington, but it was more tradition as opposed to being mandated in the Constitution. |
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Post by FinalGwen on Jun 8, 2017 16:03:37 GMT -5
It's not a stretch to say that this election will determine the future of British politics. There are sections of the Labour party that have been so desperate to get rid of Corbyn that they've pretty much sabotaged the party, and now if he doesn't win then they'll use it was a sign that left wing leaders can't win. So our choice will become the difference between far-right and merely center-right.
Not to mention the whole thing that if the Tories win we're losing the European Convention Of Human Rights, the internet is going to be censored, and the NHS is going to continue to be sold off to Richard Branson. That's all pretty significant.
On a more personal level, as someone in a long distance relationship that I was dearly hoping to soon become less long distance, the fact that the Conservative Party have pledged in their manifesto to drastically raise the income required for a marriage visa (already set at £18,600 per year, far above the living wage) is pretty depressing to think about. If Labour win, they're getting rid of the financial requirement, which means after 6 years of waiting we can actually make a start on living together. But if the Tories win, I'm likely going to have to leave the country.
Needless to say, I'm rather anxious right now.
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