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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Sept 19, 2017 21:13:09 GMT -5
...This one was a doozy, wasn't it? It's going to incite some opinions for sure, digging more into the racist heelery well for material.
Like I said in the main SmackDown thread, I don't think that the man playing Jinder Mahal is a flaming racist himself (not so sure about the people writing it, but unless I'm 100% certain that they're using this to project their own alleged opinions, I won't say that they are), but I don't think that wrestling is the right avenue to tell that kind of story.
I think Nakamura had the right response to it all by largely no-selling it.
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Post by Chiral on Sept 19, 2017 21:15:31 GMT -5
A pro wrestling crowd, A PRO WRESTLING CROWD, chanted "THAT'S TOO FAR". I desperately hope people backstage aren't like "WOW WHAT GOOD HEAT" because no. That was bad. The Jinder experiment needs to end ASAP.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2017 21:16:27 GMT -5
What'd he say?
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Post by Toilet Paper Roll on Sept 19, 2017 21:18:19 GMT -5
I'm digging Jinder as champion. I mean I wouldn't be upset if bye lost the title to Shinsuke. But he's been pretty damn good especially where he is now from where he was a year ago.
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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on Sept 19, 2017 21:24:17 GMT -5
Like I said in the main SmackDown thread, I don't think that the man playing Jinder Mahal is a flaming racist himself (not so sure about the people writing it, but unless I'm 100% certain that they're using this to project their own alleged opinions, I won't say that they are) We all know Vince is Vince. He's a bad person deep down. Jinder says he has creative control. So whether he does or doesn't, I'd say he's responsible for not saying no. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2017 21:24:26 GMT -5
I skipped SDL (like I skipped Raw) so I missed what happened. What did he do?
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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on Sept 19, 2017 21:27:37 GMT -5
I skipped SDL (like I skipped Raw) so I missed what happened. What did he do? Casual racism directed at Nakamura for being Asian. |
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Post by Slanted and Enchanted on Sept 19, 2017 21:29:15 GMT -5
A pro wrestling crowd, A PRO WRESTLING CROWD, chanted "THAT'S TOO FAR". I desperately hope people backstage aren't like "WOW WHAT GOOD HEAT" because no. That was bad. The Jinder experiment needs to end ASAP. In fairness tonights episode was in a more progressive city and the crowds themselves are more becoming more progressive in general. But regardless that promo was bad and Jinder's time on top is over. Time for the real stars to hold the title again. Give me Shinsuke, Owens, Styles, etc |
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Post by The Yes Man on Sept 19, 2017 21:29:35 GMT -5
I've never been more bored watching wrestling than I was watching that promo
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Sept 19, 2017 21:30:42 GMT -5
I skipped SDL (like I skipped Raw) so I missed what happened. What did he do? Casual racism directed at Nakamura for being Asian. But.. but.. India.. Asia..  Someone needs to get a framed poster like Andy Stitzer. |
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Post by Jacy Derangement Syndrome on Sept 19, 2017 21:31:02 GMT -5
I skipped SDL (like I skipped Raw) so I missed what happened. What did he do? "Behind your back, they'll say your hair was done by a dog groomer. Behind your back, they'll call you Mr. Miyagi." He also straight up yelled "GOZIRRA" on the mic last week and told him he looked like Pikachu having a seizure. |
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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on Sept 19, 2017 21:31:12 GMT -5
A pro wrestling crowd, A PRO WRESTLING CROWD, chanted "THAT'S TOO FAR". I desperately hope people backstage aren't like "WOW WHAT GOOD HEAT" because no. That was bad. The Jinder experiment needs to end ASAP. In fairness tonights episode was in a more progressive city and the crowds themselves are more becoming more progressive in general. Don't make excuses for people behaving the way decent people should  |
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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on Sept 19, 2017 21:32:00 GMT -5
Casual racism directed at Nakamura for being Asian. But.. but.. India.. Asia.. Someone needs to get a framed poster like Andy Stitzer. Jinder's Canadian |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2017 21:34:35 GMT -5
I skipped SDL (like I skipped Raw) so I missed what happened. What did he do? "Behind your back, they'll say your hair was done by a dog groomer. Behind your back, they'll call you Mr. Miyagi." He also straight up yelled "GOZIRRA" on the mic last week and told him he looked like Pikachu having a seizure. Basically it's the same stuff as last week it seems. Judging the posts in the thread I thought it was something that was far worse but it looks like the same stuff. Kinda weird how last week's crowd laughed and cheered while this week's crowd was against it but I guess like stated it deals with how progressive the cities they're in are. |
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Post by Heartbreaker on Sept 19, 2017 21:36:42 GMT -5
I'm legit scared he's gonna dress up in yellow face.
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Post by Jacy Derangement Syndrome on Sept 19, 2017 21:40:26 GMT -5
"Behind your back, they'll say your hair was done by a dog groomer. Behind your back, they'll call you Mr. Miyagi." He also straight up yelled "GOZIRRA" on the mic last week and told him he looked like Pikachu having a seizure. Basically it's the same stuff as last week it seems. Judging the posts in the thread I thought it was something that was far worse but it looks like the same stuff. Kinda weird how last week's crowd laughed and cheered while this week's crowd was against it but I guess like stated it deals with how progressive the cities they're in are. I wish more crowds were like this, because stuff this lazy and gross shouldn't be making it to TV. |
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Sept 19, 2017 21:40:56 GMT -5
I do just kind of want to get one thing straight out of all this, just as a devil's advocate thing... All of this is a fictional narrative with fictional characters and/or fictional characterisations of real people, yes? Just like your average TV show. A lot of those feature racist characters as antagonists, just like Jinder Mahal is here. So why is it only in wrestling that the "actors" and the writers are accused of projecting their own supposed closeted racism into their stories, and not these other things? Is it worry that the crowd may react the wrong way depending on the town they're in? Because that's my main reason as to why it's a subject matter not worth exploring.
If Nakamura wins in the end, it's all a moot point, because the hero kicked the racist guy's ass and got his belt. If not, it ends up like Triple H v Booker T, where the racist guy wins and it's a real buzzkill.
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Post by Cyno on Sept 19, 2017 21:41:07 GMT -5
This is quite possibly the most tasteless angle done in WWE since "Eddie's in Hell."
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Post by BorneAgain on Sept 19, 2017 21:47:38 GMT -5
Can't say I disagree with the local reaction, though this does make me curious if we'll future chants from live audiences the company offends with something considered tasteless:
*Heel shames a diva for alleged promiscuity*
Crowd: Dude, not cool! Dude, not cool! Dude, not cool!"
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2017 21:51:11 GMT -5
Basically it's the same stuff as last week it seems. Judging the posts in the thread I thought it was something that was far worse but it looks like the same stuff. Kinda weird how last week's crowd laughed and cheered while this week's crowd was against it but I guess like stated it deals with how progressive the cities they're in are. I wish more crowds were like this, because stuff this lazy and gross shouldn't be making it to TV. Yep but you know the "traditional wrasslin'" crowd and what they like and dislike. They love things like this, hate blacks that aren't juking and jiving and love "good ol boy" characters. |
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