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Post by kingoftheindies on Nov 16, 2017 14:52:22 GMT -5
CZW just gave storm an open invite to fight Tremont, Janela, or MJF
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Nov 16, 2017 14:57:49 GMT -5
The videos nwa wrestling uploaded are well done but I think Corgan expects too much out of this.
A guy called Brocephus challenged Storm, he said he was gonna study Tim's best matches, Brocephus then brought out a VHS tape, that was funny.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Nov 16, 2017 14:59:08 GMT -5
He's 52 right? Old enough to have worked for WWF, WCW or ECW in the 90s or 00s. And yet, until now no one's ever heard of this guy. He's basically a softball player who the closest he got to the majors was attending a minor league game. Lol the closest he ever got to tv was doing a squash against Big Daddy V back in 2008. Joey Styles called him an up and comer, mind you Tim was in his 40s then haha.
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Post by efarns on Nov 16, 2017 22:11:53 GMT -5
He's 52 right? Old enough to have worked for WWF, WCW or ECW in the 90s or 00s. And yet, until now no one's ever heard of this guy. He's basically a softball player who the closest he got to the majors was attending a minor league game. He beat Nick Aldis though. There's your hero.
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Post by cactussam on Nov 17, 2017 8:06:38 GMT -5
Whenever I see a modern day NWA thread I have to click on it to see people act like the NWA is still a thing worth following even though that hasn't been the case for 25 years.
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Post by Ultimo Gallos on Nov 17, 2017 15:43:41 GMT -5
Whenever I see a modern day NWA thread I have to click on it to see people act like the NWA is still a thing worth following even though that hasn't been the case for 25 years. Outside of the TX/LA/MS area yea the NWA is dead. But in my area it still has a decent sized following. And I find it kind of neat that a guy I would chat comics with before/after the show is now NWA World champ.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2017 16:45:32 GMT -5
I wish that the NWA would become a thing again, but it’s not likely because to do it properly the big indies would have to form an Alliance and nothing would ever get accomplished with all of the political maneuvering and bickering about who should be champ, and money. It doesn’t really work with an alliance of smaller indies
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Post by honsou on Nov 17, 2017 18:36:32 GMT -5
CZW just gave storm an open invite to fight Tremont, Janela, or MJF I actually think MJF is built for that belt. Hes pretty good in the ring, has a great look and is a total heat machine. If they want to do something where the heel NWA world champ comes to your local indie to face the local babyface champ, MJF was built for that role.
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Post by wrestlingrecap on Nov 17, 2017 23:57:43 GMT -5
CZW just gave storm an open invite to fight Tremont, Janela, or MJF I actually think MJF is built for that belt. Hes pretty good in the ring, has a great look and is a total heat machine. If they want to do something where the heel NWA world champ comes to your local indie to face the local babyface champ, MJF was built for that role. I agree completely with this. It makes sense.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Nov 18, 2017 0:00:01 GMT -5
It says a lot about how dead the NWA is when they need CZW more than CZW needs them.
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Post by Ted Sheckler on Nov 18, 2017 0:27:26 GMT -5
Whenever I see a modern day NWA thread I have to click on it to see people act like the NWA is still a thing worth following even though that hasn't been the case for 25 years. The arrogance is appalling... Major NWA moments in the past 25 years (1992-2017): - NWA World Heavyweight Title defended at Starrcade 1992 by Masahiro Chono. Great Muta, Barry Windham and Ric Flair won the title during that time period and guys like Rick Rude, Stone Cold and Sting all challenged for it. The title was defended on national television in the United States and also in Japan. - Shane Douglas throwing the belt down is a huge moment and it relates to the NWA and it's World Title. Not the NWA's finest hour but still a major moment for the promotion. - NWA World Heavyweight Title is the first wrestling belt (And maybe the last?) to appear in the UFC having done so in Dan Severn's reign (Which began in 1995, 3 years after the NWA lost relevancy according to you) - In 1997 the NWA invades WWF giving the brand national exposure once more (This is 5 years after it was relevant according to you) - The likes of Sabu, Steve Corino and Shinya Hashimoto win the title between the WWF invasion and joining up with TNA. Admittedly 1997-2002 was a bit of a downfall. - NWA links up with TNA where for 4 years they once again have national notoriety. During that time period AJ Styles, Christian Cage, Jeff Jarrett, Ken Shamrock, Raven, Rhino and Sting all gain NWA World Heavyweight Title reigns. Of course the belt main events many major PPV's and is on national television. I won't even post the calibre of challengers the belt had during this time period. - NWA leaves TNA or vice versa and we get the brilliance of Adam Pearce who becomes a more traditional champion and travels the territories. He defends the belt in Ring Of Honor (Meaning the NWA World Title has been defended in WWE, WCW, TNA, ROH and every other major wrestling company) - Pearce era finishes up and the belt is featured in New Japan Pro Wrestling and tons of other quality independent companies. Yeah mate, you're right. Nothing worth following for 25 years.
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Post by Wilfred on Nov 18, 2017 11:00:18 GMT -5
This wasn't a very good match. Storm isn't that good, but to me he comes across as very likable and a "real" personality, so I'm rooting for him. Definitely has the everyman factor. Aldis is good and should be NWA Champion in the future. I'm going to keep my eye on the NWA and I really hope they can grow in the coming years to give us something different than the tired WWE. They have produced some well made videos on their youtube page so I would recommend if you're looking for something a little different
My impossible wish(rofl) : Give Daniel Bryan the NWA Title next year and let him travel the world defending against all challengers!
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Post by SHAKEMASTER TV9 is Don Knotts on Nov 18, 2017 11:04:32 GMT -5
He's 52 right? Old enough to have worked for WWF, WCW or ECW in the 90s or 00s. And yet, until now no one's ever heard of this guy. He's basically a softball player who the closest he got to the majors was attending a minor league game. He beat Nick Aldis though. There's your hero. He's not the hero the NWA needs, he's the hero NWA deserves.
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Post by efarns on Nov 18, 2017 16:13:14 GMT -5
He beat Nick Aldis though. There's your hero. He's not the hero the NWA needs, he's the hero NWA deserves. Funny. And true. Whether you are shooting or you are kayfabing, Storm is NWA champ because he wanted it more.
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Post by chrom on Nov 18, 2017 16:17:18 GMT -5
He's not the hero the NWA needs, he's the hero NWA deserves. Funny. And true. Whether you are shooting or you are kayfabing, Storm is NWA champ because he wanted it more. More like the only one who wanted it
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Post by cactussam on Nov 18, 2017 16:17:56 GMT -5
Whenever I see a modern day NWA thread I have to click on it to see people act like the NWA is still a thing worth following even though that hasn't been the case for 25 years. The arrogance is appalling... Sure I'll take being arrogant. I'll admit, I'm too young (32), and was born in the wrong area (Nebraska, an old AWA area) to see the NWA as anything more than second rate. When I started watching in 1990 I was a WWF guy through and through. And pretty much to me the relevance of the NWA ended when Shane Douglas threw the title down which then led to one of my favorite things, ECW. And that's it man, it's just my opinion. And you have yours. And that's totally cool. But when the NWA title is being defended as a lower card belt on WWF in 97/98 it shows me it's not relevant anymore. If it was, then it would be in the main event. And when WWF really caught on fire it was gone because the company sure as heck didn't need it. It didn't matter anymore as it was just a relic of the past being brought out for whatever old timers they want to appeal to. I've gone back and watched a lot of NWA/JCP and think it's great stuff but what the NWA is now is nowhere near the level of prominence of what that had. And that's not opinion, that's a fact. When I lived in LA, NWA Hollywood and PWG would often do shows the same weekend as they would share talent and I would make a wrestling weekend of it. One felt fresh and progressive and the other a throwback to an era gone by. If it makes me arrogant to prefer something more modern and not stuck in the good ol' days then it is exactly what I am.
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Post by efarns on Nov 18, 2017 16:22:16 GMT -5
You click on the thread though.
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Post by cactussam on Nov 18, 2017 16:55:42 GMT -5
You click on the thread though. Because it's like going to another planet or dimension. It's fascinating.
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Post by Ted Sheckler on Nov 18, 2017 18:58:13 GMT -5
Generally a more traditional style of wrestling draws better than less traditional style. That's why promotions pull 500 fans to a local high school and nobody in the IWC has ever heard of them or their wrestlers.
Your average wrestling fan doesn't care about how many stars a match is. They care about a story and that's what the NWA is trying to achieve here. Sorry that the NWA isn't producing 5 star matches anymore. Some people don't care.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Nov 20, 2017 1:49:42 GMT -5
Whenever I see a modern day NWA thread I have to click on it to see people act like the NWA is still a thing worth following even though that hasn't been the case for 25 years. The arrogance is appalling... Major NWA moments in the past 25 years (1992-2017): - NWA World Heavyweight Title defended at Starrcade 1992 by Masahiro Chono. Great Muta, Barry Windham and Ric Flair won the title during that time period and guys like Rick Rude, Stone Cold and Sting all challenged for it. The title was defended on national television in the United States and also in Japan. - Shane Douglas throwing the belt down is a huge moment and it relates to the NWA and it's World Title. Not the NWA's finest hour but still a major moment for the promotion. - NWA World Heavyweight Title is the first wrestling belt (And maybe the last?) to appear in the UFC having done so in Dan Severn's reign (Which began in 1995, 3 years after the NWA lost relevancy according to you) - In 1997 the NWA invades WWF giving the brand national exposure once more (This is 5 years after it was relevant according to you) - The likes of Sabu, Steve Corino and Shinya Hashimoto win the title between the WWF invasion and joining up with TNA. Admittedly 1997-2002 was a bit of a downfall. - NWA links up with TNA where for 4 years they once again have national notoriety. During that time period AJ Styles, Christian Cage, Jeff Jarrett, Ken Shamrock, Raven, Rhino and Sting all gain NWA World Heavyweight Title reigns. Of course the belt main events many major PPV's and is on national television. I won't even post the calibre of challengers the belt had during this time period. - NWA leaves TNA or vice versa and we get the brilliance of Adam Pearce who becomes a more traditional champion and travels the territories. He defends the belt in Ring Of Honor (Meaning the NWA World Title has been defended in WWE, WCW, TNA, ROH and every other major wrestling company) - Pearce era finishes up and the belt is featured in New Japan Pro Wrestling and tons of other quality independent companies. Yeah mate, you're right. Nothing worth following for 25 years. I don't think Pearce's reign was as great as others, but admittedly with NWA Hollywood doing well at the time and his feud with Cabana, it did make the title mean something again and brought a lot of positive press back to the belt (I actually don't think the belt really did anything in ROH, and Pearce's reigns meant very little till he left ROH, but that's my opinion) what hurt was the choices made AFTER the Shiek fiasco including booking a lot of good talent for the NWA title tourney and deciding to make Kahagas the world champ because he got free travel due to his job
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