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Post by Brandon Walsh is Insane. on Mar 4, 2018 14:07:05 GMT -5
At the risk of sounding hipster, I mostly stick to the Netflix stuff. I think hipster would be talking about how much you prefer the original 90s Capt and Punisher movies
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Post by HMARK Center on Mar 4, 2018 14:40:18 GMT -5
I know people talk about the "Disney effect" with Marvel. But you know what's even more confusing? Disney in the past and present haven't been afraid of strong, dark, serious, and emotional themes that I know traumatized me as a child and even as an adult at times. What changed in their format? I'd argue it's not just Disney, it's a lot of Hollywood. My own childhood was rife with family/general audience/children's films of varying degrees of quality, but many of them seemed to have little hesitation about showing kids stuff that was scary, sad, or high stakes and tense. That's...just kind of not how things are done anymore. A lot of that type of material today seems to go more for a sarcastic feel, with studios still influenced by how Robin Williams impacted the success of Aladdin back in '92. Feels like stuff like Don Bluth's films, or something like the Neverending Story, would never get made today and marketed to a truly general audience. That's strange that Honest Trailers or whomever would say that about GotG2; like I said before I found that it only kind of hurt itself by trying to cram too many emotional character arcs into one film (really felt like the Ego storyline could've easily been spread over two films, thus giving more room to breathe for Gamora/Nebula, Rocket and Yandu's relationship, etc.), but plenty of people really connected with Yandu's redemption arc. I still don't get people who whine that Last Jedi "changed too much". Hell, for my money they didn't change enough; they kept acting like they were going to change everything, but constantly pulled back before doing anything too interesting.
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Post by riseofsetian1981 on Mar 4, 2018 18:28:33 GMT -5
I know people talk about the "Disney effect" with Marvel. But you know what's even more confusing? Disney in the past and present haven't been afraid of strong, dark, serious, and emotional themes that I know traumatized me as a child and even as an adult at times. What changed in their format? I'd argue it's not just Disney, it's a lot of Hollywood. My own childhood was rife with family/general audience/children's films of varying degrees of quality, but many of them seemed to have little hesitation about showing kids stuff that was scary, sad, or high stakes and tense. That's...just kind of not how things are done anymore. A lot of that type of material today seems to go more for a sarcastic feel, with studios still influenced by how Robin Williams impacted the success of Aladdin back in '92. Feels like stuff like Don Bluth's films, or something like the Neverending Story, would never get made today and marketed to a truly general audience. That's strange that Honest Trailers or whomever would say that about GotG2; like I said before I found that it only kind of hurt itself by trying to cram too many emotional character arcs into one film (really felt like the Ego storyline could've easily been spread over two films, thus giving more room to breathe for Gamora/Nebula, Rocket and Yandu's relationship, etc.), but plenty of people really connected with Yandu's redemption arc. I still don't get people who whine that Last Jedi "changed too much". Hell, for my money they didn't change enough; they kept acting like they were going to change everything, but constantly pulled back before doing anything too interesting. Don't remind me of the Neverending Story.
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Post by riseofsetian1981 on Mar 4, 2018 18:31:26 GMT -5
I hated that Bryan Adams song. Still do. What's wrong with you?! How dare you utter such blasphemy!
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Post by Pgarodactyl on Mar 4, 2018 18:52:29 GMT -5
I hated that Bryan Adams song. Still do. What's wrong with you?! How dare you utter such blasphemy! He didn't search his heart. Or search his soul.
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Post by The Spelunker! on Mar 4, 2018 20:52:28 GMT -5
A lot of them are quite samish, but they all watch well. And it drives me nuts that they kill every villain in each movie.
But Guardians 1 and 2 are just wonderful. Antman was a surprisingly fun heist comedy movie. Doctor Strange might have been the first movie I would actually recommend seeing in 3D. Ragnarok was surprisingly fun until the last third of the movie brought it back to formula.
I feel like as things progress at this point we’ll be getting more and more risks taken. They certainly seem to be branching out and trying new stuff. And Marvel’s success seems to be pushing Sony and Fox to try some new stuff to be different, with Deadpool and Logan being recent examples and the upcoming Venom and New Mutants.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Mar 4, 2018 20:59:07 GMT -5
I hated that Bryan Adams song. Still do. What's wrong with you?! How dare you utter such blasphemy! It was poopy.
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Post by Sir Woodrow on Mar 4, 2018 21:01:15 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2018 21:38:31 GMT -5
I like to look at it the way that Kevin Smith looks at Batman vs. Superman. Could the movies be better? Of course. Could the characters be a little closer to the source material? Absolutely. But, at the end of the day, the characters we grew up loving (which wasn't always cool to do) on pages are now getting a ridiculous amount of attention as they are brought to life.
Yeah, it's taking the positive spin route. But you know what...I like it.
Some of the Marvel movies have been great. Some of them have been eh. But I think the whole experience has been pretty cool, man.
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Post by Shai on Mar 4, 2018 22:47:30 GMT -5
I love the series, even the ones I like the least (of which there's only about three or four). The rest are good to truly wonderful to me. Since it's not a situation I find myself in much, it's also really good when you enjoy a franchise and they're just hitting critical and financial home runs out of the park again and again and again. I've got brand trust in them to a degree that I really don't get much elsewhere. Yeah...if Marvel Studios at some point decided not to show a single trailer for an MCU movie I would still buy opening night tickets. Out of 18 MCU movies I've seen every single one since Avengers at the first midnight showing.
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Post by Heartbreaker on Mar 4, 2018 22:56:41 GMT -5
Some people realise that you don't have to watch things, right?
Oh wait, just look at the WWE section after every RAW and SD.
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Post by arrogantmodel on Mar 5, 2018 0:01:33 GMT -5
I like to look at it the way that Kevin Smith looks at Batman vs. Superman. Could the movies be better? Of course. Could the characters be a little closer to the source material? Absolutely. But, at the end of the day, the characters we grew up loving (which wasn't always cool to do) on pages are now getting a ridiculous amount of attention as they are brought to life. Yeah, it's taking the positive spin route. But you know what...I like it. Some of the Marvel movies have been great. Some of them have been eh. But I think the whole experience has been pretty cool, man. That's how I feel. Was Batman v. Superman great? Hell no. But it's like the last fight was made for ten year old me. I saw Batman, Superman, and Wonder Woman fighting (a weird version of) Doomsday. That's awesome. I will be 35 in two weeks, if these movies were coming out when I was ten, and a lot of them were supposed to be, my head would have exploded.
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Post by riseofsetian1981 on Mar 5, 2018 0:04:08 GMT -5
I like to look at it the way that Kevin Smith looks at Batman vs. Superman. Could the movies be better? Of course. Could the characters be a little closer to the source material? Absolutely. But, at the end of the day, the characters we grew up loving (which wasn't always cool to do) on pages are now getting a ridiculous amount of attention as they are brought to life. Yeah, it's taking the positive spin route. But you know what...I like it. Some of the Marvel movies have been great. Some of them have been eh. But I think the whole experience has been pretty cool, man. That's how I feel. Was Batman v. Superman great? Hell no. But it's like the last fight was made for ten year old me. I saw Batman, Superman, and Wonder Woman fighting (a weird version of) Doomsday. That's awesome. I will be 35 in two weeks, if these movies were coming out when I was ten, and a lot of them were supposed to be, my head would have exploded. I was thinking the same thing earlier today. I am 36 and if someone had told ten year old me "In 2018 you're going to see the Avengers take on Thanos" I would've laughed and told them they were lying.
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Post by arrogantmodel on Mar 5, 2018 0:10:44 GMT -5
That's how I feel. Was Batman v. Superman great? Hell no. But it's like the last fight was made for ten year old me. I saw Batman, Superman, and Wonder Woman fighting (a weird version of) Doomsday. That's awesome. I will be 35 in two weeks, if these movies were coming out when I was ten, and a lot of them were supposed to be, my head would have exploded. I was thinking the same thing earlier today. I am 36 and if someone had told ten year old me "In 2018 you're going to see the Avengers take on Thanos" I would've laughed and told them they were lying. Flip side of that coin; if somebody would have told ten year old me that they would make a Justice League movie and I WOULDN'T care or want to see it, I would think they were insane.
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Post by Shai on Mar 5, 2018 0:14:48 GMT -5
That's how I feel. Was Batman v. Superman great? Hell no. But it's like the last fight was made for ten year old me. I saw Batman, Superman, and Wonder Woman fighting (a weird version of) Doomsday. That's awesome. I will be 35 in two weeks, if these movies were coming out when I was ten, and a lot of them were supposed to be, my head would have exploded. I was thinking the same thing earlier today. I am 36 and if someone had told ten year old me "In 2018 you're going to see the Avengers take on Thanos" I would've laughed and told them they were lying. If someone had told 10 year old me that my favorite superheroes were gonna be a tree that can only say 4 words and a talking racoon I'd have laughed my ass off.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Mar 5, 2018 0:16:31 GMT -5
I was thinking the same thing earlier today. I am 36 and if someone had told ten year old me "In 2018 you're going to see the Avengers take on Thanos" I would've laughed and told them they were lying. If someone had told 10 year old me that my favorite superheroes were gonna be a tree that can only say 4 words and a talking racoon I'd have laughed my ass off. If you had told me that a talking raccoon who loved guns would make me tear up in not one, but two films, I'd have called you nuts.
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Post by Shai on Mar 5, 2018 0:21:50 GMT -5
If someone had told 10 year old me that my favorite superheroes were gonna be a tree that can only say 4 words and a talking racoon I'd have laughed my ass off. If you had told me that a talking raccoon who loved guns would make me tear up in not one, but two films, I'd have called you nuts. Exactly. And oh by the way the best part of the Justice League movie will be Aquaman. And you'll be looking foward to an Aquaman solo more then a new Batman movie.
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Mar 5, 2018 0:30:20 GMT -5
At the risk of sounding hipster, I mostly stick to the Netflix stuff. Basically me (to a certain extent. I do love most of the movies), but replace Netflix with Agents of SHIELD.
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Post by BrodietheSlayer on Mar 5, 2018 3:11:01 GMT -5
Some people realise that you don't have to watch things, right? Oh wait, just look at the WWE section after every RAW and SD. But....but watching things you mostly hate takes PASSION! Lots and lots of PASSION!!!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2018 7:19:26 GMT -5
I like a fair amount of them. There’s a couple of bad eggs but that’s understandable considering the amount of them at this point. I still wind up seeing them because these are characters I’ve loved since I was a kid and I’m invested in the build up.
It’s pretty easy to avoid things you don’t like online hype wise and just not watch the movies if you feel that strongly. However if you’re just looking for a change in pace or tone, there’s options out there with the various TV shows.
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