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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Mar 27, 2019 15:22:56 GMT -5
If I had to venture a guess I'd say it'll go until the midpoint of next season. Then they can do the Commonwealth deal. Walking Dead enjoys starting and stopping storylines around that 8th episode mark (ended Governor, started Whisperers proper). Depends how long they want to drag it out but 8 episodes should be enough assuming you keep the filler to a minimum
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Post by adamclark52 on Mar 27, 2019 18:15:24 GMT -5
I must admit I've fallen behind on the show ever since Chandler Riggs and Andrew Lincoln left. Someone on another message forum mentioned how the Whisperers arc isn't long in the comics and that it would be ridiculous to drag it two to three more seasons. The common theory is they'll probably end the show when they find the Commonwealth Community. From what I remember Alpha only lasted maybe fifteen or twenty issues in the comics but the Whisperers lasted three times that long. They’re gonna probably change this arc up a lot
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Mar 27, 2019 18:43:28 GMT -5
I must admit I've fallen behind on the show ever since Chandler Riggs and Andrew Lincoln left. Someone on another message forum mentioned how the Whisperers arc isn't long in the comics and that it would be ridiculous to drag it two to three more seasons. The common theory is they'll probably end the show when they find the Commonwealth Community. From what I remember Alpha only lasted maybe fifteen or twenty issues in the comics but the Whisperers lasted three times that long. They’re gonna probably change this arc up a lot Lydia character is essentially null and voided
They don't have to do the same thing with Alpha they did in the comics but it would be a cool moment
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Post by CeilingFan on Mar 28, 2019 7:11:47 GMT -5
Inspirational speech
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Post by cabbageboy on Mar 28, 2019 17:56:30 GMT -5
It was a good speech and it was long needed in Walking Dead. Let's face it, the show is the most nihilistic show in TV history. I can't recall anyone having any semblance of a decent death, or a heroic death, or anything. It's just fluke bites, downbeat killings, and the like. At least here it was framed as though the 10 people beheaded died fighting to their last breath and were martyrs of a sort. I guess one could argue Carl was kinda heroic (saving Siddiq, ironically) but at the time that happened we had zero clue that Carl had been bitten at all. It was a few episodes later that he revealed the bite.
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Post by CeilingFan on Mar 29, 2019 8:52:35 GMT -5
This song should be Alpha's theme song
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Post by clifford on Mar 29, 2019 9:26:40 GMT -5
I feel the Whisperers story arc will go to Season 10 mid season finale, the back half of season 10 then being committed to the introduction of the Commonwealth and all the story lines that brings with it. By the end of season 10 (April 2020) the comics should have wrapped up the Commonwealth arc so the producers and the show can decide what to do with the Commonwealth in regards to season 11. I feel this is the most likely approach given the shows pretty faithful direction its taken on the comics thus far.
Personally, after the Whisperers arc, I would look to break completely away from the comics, seeing as the personnel are so different in the show and comics at this stage, that adapting straight from the comics seems pointless at this point. For instance, the main characters in the comic at the moment are Rick, Carl, Michonne and Maggie, none of whom will be in the show by the time the Whisperers arc finishes up.
IMO they should look to the ending of the show on its own terms after the Whisperers, and finishing up at season 10 or season 11. This season has been better than the previous few, but it really can't sustain this constant chopping and changing of the core main cast that is happening. I'd rather see it go out while it still has a (relatively) good name to itself.
TLDR; hopefully the show has 2 seasons max left to it, cause personally I can't see it being enjoyable past that.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Mar 29, 2019 10:33:23 GMT -5
I feel the Whisperers story arc will go to Season 10 mid season finale, the back half of season 10 then being committed to the introduction of the Commonwealth and all the story lines that brings with it. By the end of season 10 (April 2020) the comics should have wrapped up the Commonwealth arc so the producers and the show can decide what to do with the Commonwealth in regards to season 11. I feel this is the most likely approach given the shows pretty faithful direction its taken on the comics thus far. Personally, after the Whisperers arc, I would look to break completely away from the comics, seeing as the personnel are so different in the show and comics at this stage, that adapting straight from the comics seems pointless at this point. For instance, the main characters in the comic at the moment are Rick, Carl, Michonne and Maggie, none of whom will be in the show by the time the Whisperers arc finishes up. IMO they should look to the ending of the show on its own terms after the Whisperers, and finishing up at season 10 or season 11. This season has been better than the previous few, but it really can't sustain this constant chopping and changing of the core main cast that is happening. I'd rather see it go out while it still has a (relatively) good name to itself. TLDR; hopefully the show has 2 seasons max left to it, cause personally I can't see it being enjoyable past that. Yea, considering certain events with Michonne and Dwight and neither are there is not going to make sense tho I still expect them to follow the comics but just change the moments around to fit whoever
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Post by adamclark52 on Apr 1, 2019 0:48:02 GMT -5
Okay they’ve time-skipped almost ten years in the Walking Dead and they’re still in the same place they’ve been for the last six. Why were they acting like this is their first winter storm?
I mean I’m glad they finally showed winter in the show but it would have been more effective between seasons two and three.
Pretty bad finale overall. Should have been the season ten premiere. Wow, a voice on the radio. I’m sitting on the edge of my seat until October.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Apr 1, 2019 8:50:22 GMT -5
Pretty bad finale overall. Should have been the season ten premiere. Wow, a voice on the radio. I’m sitting on the edge of my seat until October. Yeah, using the voice on the radio really only works as a hook if you’ve read the comics. It does pay off and leads to the next major story arc, but hopefully they move a little quicker on that one then the comics did.
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Post by chronocross on Apr 1, 2019 9:58:31 GMT -5
It was an okay episode, loved the interaction with Negan/Gabriel and Negan/Michonne/Judith, was hoping for more of a hook at the end there, but still it was a great season.
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Post by CeilingFan on Apr 1, 2019 17:59:20 GMT -5
I wish that voice at the end was Rick.
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Post by Mr PONYMANIA Mr Jenzie on Apr 1, 2019 18:44:09 GMT -5
slightly underwhelming given what happened, but fast forwarding to when the blizzard really kicks in, and to why they needed to leave in that short prologue ..... was pretty good though, as it stood as almost a stand alone episode, like the tornado! missed a trick as when henry heard "the pipes playing up" in the previous episode and could have linked to degradation of the heating system. negan ribs everyone and might have nudged into that whole daddy/not daddy thing, wonder which one will lay him out first real dissapoint that i didn't see rosita as one of negans "brides" ..... THERE'S STILL HOPE but his affection to judith might well be his very saving grace carol though is an almighty character, trying to keep it together even to the point of separating with ezekial, and is heartbreaking to watch and can only get worse even with her "rock" daryl in the next season ..... however i felt there wasn't ENOUGH emotion as they passed through the pike border, and with the kinda scatty editing made it lesser than it should have been, only relying on the weather to take central stage ..... but the makers really do that well ..... and a nice little codec right at the end ..... AND THEN THERE'S ALPHA BRRRR cannot wait ..... again
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Post by The 1Watcher Experience on Apr 1, 2019 19:35:08 GMT -5
I thought it was a decent episode as far as the Negan interactions and the bonding in the snow bits go but it wasn’t much of a standout in terms of being a season finale.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Apr 1, 2019 22:30:53 GMT -5
I really enjoyed the scenes with Lydia and Carol, especially with Carol's character story in the comic. You mean dead?
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Post by cabbageboy on Apr 1, 2019 22:41:03 GMT -5
I think the Lydia "suicide by zombie" bit was a reference to comic Carol. As far as the episode goes, I thought it was a good show that should have been the season 10 debut episode and not a season finale. As such it was a solid show that followed an instant classic that should have been the season finale.
My mom has also started watching this show and just finished season 4 today. I told her to watch for the episode The Grove with Carol, Tyreese, baby Judith, and the two girls. I thought it was one of the best episodes in the series, probably THE best that didn't involve much of the main cast. Would you believe my mom didn't think it was anything special?
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Apr 2, 2019 0:14:31 GMT -5
I think the Lydia "suicide by zombie" bit was a reference to comic Carol. That's what I meant lol
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Apr 2, 2019 0:17:26 GMT -5
I think the Lydia "suicide by zombie" bit was a reference to comic Carol. As far as the episode goes, I thought it was a good show that should have been the season 10 debut episode and not a season finale. As such it was a solid show that followed an instant classic that should have been the season finale. My mom has also started watching this show and just finished season 4 today. I told her to watch for the episode The Grove with Carol, Tyreese, baby Judith, and the two girls. I thought it was one of the best episodes in the series, probably THE best that didn't involve much of the main cast. Would you believe my mom didn't think it was anything special? Mom is going to have to watch that episode again
Carol having to say listen we got to put this girl down after she killed her sister and "look at the flowers" was just crazy. I figured Lizzy and her sister was substitute for Billy & Ben but I was still surprised when it happened and the fact they actually executed her in the most humane fashion took some guts to do
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Post by clifford on Apr 2, 2019 4:46:36 GMT -5
The pacing of this season was all over the damn place.
First you had the time jump from the end of season 8, so you spend a few episodes adjusting from that, then you have Rick's exit crammed into a couple of episodes, then a much longer time jump and new characters/dynamics/enemies all introduced once again; this is all within the first 8 episodes by the way.
Then you have the penultimate episode which in any other tv show or season of this show would be the season finale, followed by ANOTHER time jump and the actual finale which in any other show or any other season of this show would be a season premiere.
I actually enjoyed a lot of this season; Michonne was amazing, Darryl was the most interesting and best he's been in this show since probably season 5, the new characters were a great addition (especially Connie and Luke) and the Whisperers came off as great on tv as chilling villains as they did in the comic, Negan's redemption arc has also been well done, and we got rid of some frankly awful characters (Henry, Tara, Enid, Jadis).
Rick's exit (not that it happened, but how it was done) and the above mentioned bizarre pacing of the season hurt it, but in the end this was probably the best season since before the Saviours showed up.
I still think the show should start planning to wrap up in the next 1-2 seasons, and to stop following the comics so closely as it has no Rick, Carl and soon it won't have Michonne (shoehorning Henry into Carl's spot from the comics this season proves that it just doesn't work), but the fact this show is 9 seasons deep and still making me wanting to watch it shows the longevity it possesses.
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Post by celticjobber on Apr 2, 2019 6:13:38 GMT -5
I like how they're doing Negan's face turn/redemption storyline, his scenes with Judith are always good.
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