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Post by Heartbreaker on Jul 10, 2019 9:08:40 GMT -5
I'll probably go see this on Monday. Waiting for the school holidays to end so I don't murder any annoying children.
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Post by Prince Petty on Jul 10, 2019 17:58:51 GMT -5
This was a really fun movie. I'm torn on whether it was better than the first one or not.
Peter and MJ make a really cute, convincingly teenage couple, and I hope we get more of them in the next movie. Especially now MJ knows Peter is Spider-Man (although, so does everyone) and can help him problem solve. Good chemistry between Holland and Zendaya.
Mysterio was obviously going to be a villain, but Gyllenhaal was charming and affable enough that I kept forgetting that, before the reveal. Peter was too quick to trust him, but I can see why he did. Beck was a good judge of people, and saw Peter's need for affirmation from a mentor figure. The reveal of how he was conning everyone was equal parts cool and corny. Lots of tech, lots of manpower, lots of smoke and mirrors, all allowing a regular guy to come off like a superhero.
I don't care for Spider-Man as Tony's successor. To me, Spider-Man is the plucky underdog, the friendly neighbourhood Spider-Man who uses his wits, guile and heart to win the day. He doesn't use drones, satellites and all of Stark Industries' resources.
JK Simmons returning was great, and would have been a big enough moment for that mid-credits scene, without the twist of revealing Spider-Man's identity.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Jul 10, 2019 19:13:11 GMT -5
A pretty interesting vid here dealing with the messy rights sharing between Sony and Marvel and why you're unlikely to see Tom Holland Spidey in any Venom movie and things like that and the contract stipulations are. The most interesting part to me is toward the end they talk about how Spider-man characters that are used in MCU movies will be 'disputed' if Sony ever gets the sole rights back like you know they're dying for; and the disputed characters would then be frozen since Disney/Marvel would have a stake in them. It's why you have hot Aunt May or Zendaya MJ in the MCU movies--they're recognizable enough as their counterparts, but different enough that if they're eventually disputed and frozen, Sony could go ahead with more traditional version. I.E. if they couldn't use Zendaya MJ, no problem, they can just use regular Mary Jane Watson.
That also may be why they've leaned so hard into Spider-man as Iron Man's protege; that version would be disputed, but plain old Peter Parker would be free and clear.
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Jul 10, 2019 20:00:39 GMT -5
A random, slightly spoilery thought... {Spoiler}Canonically, the MCU Peter Parker is a f***ing potty mouth.
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Post by TheDieselTrain on Jul 11, 2019 16:15:56 GMT -5
Please tell me Ned has minimal screen time in this. He was easily the worst part of homecoming for me.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jul 11, 2019 16:53:21 GMT -5
Please tell me Ned has minimal screen time in this. He was easily the worst part of homecoming for me. I've only seen Homecoming once, because I didn't care for it, so I don't remember Ned all that much, but I'm pretty sure he has a lot more screen time in Far From Home. Like, pretty much every time Peter is out of the costume Ned isn't far behind, and Peter's out of the costume a lot.
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Jul 11, 2019 17:02:25 GMT -5
It was okay, I prefer Homecoming over it.
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Post by Duke Cameron on Jul 11, 2019 17:07:18 GMT -5
Please tell me Ned has minimal screen time in this. He was easily the worst part of homecoming for me. I’d say that he’s in it quite a bit. Actually has a small side story of his own going on in the movie.
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Post by Duke Cameron on Jul 11, 2019 17:08:36 GMT -5
I think a big part of why I liked this one so much more is because of how much I liked Mysterio. I found the Vulture a bit boring.
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Post by BlackoutCreature on Jul 11, 2019 17:30:56 GMT -5
So I finally saw this today, and I was honestly pretty "meh" on it. {Spoiler}I had a rough time sitting through the first hour. I am just so sick of awkward teenage Peter Parker with his angsty love stories and wacky hijinks. Seriously, there were more wacky hijinks in this movie then there was in "Into the Spider-Verse" and Spider-Verse featured a talking pig. It did pick up in the second half once Mysterio was outed and MJ found out and the actual superhero plot started moving.
As for the mid-credits sequence, honestly that can be resolved in two minutes with the Avengers (Rhodey is still out there, right?) releasing a statement saying that Mysterio is a lying piece of crap and that Peter Parker is not Spider-Man. Of course Jameson would still believe Mysterio and this would be a good explanation for JJJ's grudge again Spider-Man, being humiliated for reporting something he genuinely believes it absolutely true.
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Post by riseofsetian1981 on Jul 11, 2019 17:53:52 GMT -5
So I finally saw this today, and I was honestly pretty "meh" on it. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}I had a rough time sitting through the first hour. I am just so sick of awkward teenage Peter Parker with his angsty love stories and wacky hijinks. Seriously, there were more wacky hijinks in this movie then there was in "Into the Spider-Verse" and Spider-Verse featured a talking pig. It did pick up in the second half once Mysterio was outed and MJ found out and the actual superhero plot started moving.
As for the mid-credits sequence, honestly that can be resolved in two minutes with the Avengers (Rhodey is still out there, right?) releasing a statement saying that Mysterio is a lying piece of crap and that Peter Parker is not Spider-Man. Of course Jameson would still believe Mysterio and this would be a good explanation for JJJ's grudge again Spider-Man, being humiliated for reporting something he genuinely believes it absolutely true. {Spoiler}No way, how the mid-credit scene ended opens up new possibilities into the idea of Spider-Man being a "menace". Having law enforcement hating him as well as a good amount of citizens in New York. Like Mysterio said "The people will believe what they see". It wouldn't matter what Rhodey said, that "image" of Parker saying "execute them all" is enough for people.
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Post by chrom on Jul 11, 2019 17:55:26 GMT -5
This was a really fun movie. I'm torn on whether it was better than the first one or not. Peter and MJ make a really cute, convincingly teenage couple, and I hope we get more of them in the next movie. Especially now MJ knows Peter is Spider-Man (although, so does everyone) and can help him problem solve. Good chemistry between Holland and Zendaya. Mysterio was obviously going to be a villain, but Gyllenhaal was charming and affable enough that I kept forgetting that, before the reveal. Peter was too quick to trust him, but I can see why he did. Beck was a good judge of people, and saw Peter's need for affirmation from a mentor figure. The reveal of how he was conning everyone was equal parts cool and corny. Lots of tech, lots of manpower, lots of smoke and mirrors, all allowing a regular guy to come off like a superhero. I don't care for Spider-Man as Tony's successor. To me, Spider-Man is the plucky underdog, the friendly neighbourhood Spider-Man who uses his wits, guile and heart to win the day. He doesn't use drones, satellites and all of Stark Industries' resources.
JK Simmons returning was great, and would have been a big enough moment for that mid-credits scene, without the twist of revealing Spider-Man's identity. How many times though can you stand to see him as the guy who's always struggling to pay bills, has to resort to living with his Aunt and being the perpetual punching bag of the universe?
Joe Quesada insisting on returning to the Status Quo is what lead to One More Day
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Post by EyeofTyr on Jul 11, 2019 18:11:20 GMT -5
This was a really fun movie. I'm torn on whether it was better than the first one or not. Peter and MJ make a really cute, convincingly teenage couple, and I hope we get more of them in the next movie. Especially now MJ knows Peter is Spider-Man (although, so does everyone) and can help him problem solve. Good chemistry between Holland and Zendaya. Mysterio was obviously going to be a villain, but Gyllenhaal was charming and affable enough that I kept forgetting that, before the reveal. Peter was too quick to trust him, but I can see why he did. Beck was a good judge of people, and saw Peter's need for affirmation from a mentor figure. The reveal of how he was conning everyone was equal parts cool and corny. Lots of tech, lots of manpower, lots of smoke and mirrors, all allowing a regular guy to come off like a superhero. I don't care for Spider-Man as Tony's successor. To me, Spider-Man is the plucky underdog, the friendly neighbourhood Spider-Man who uses his wits, guile and heart to win the day. He doesn't use drones, satellites and all of Stark Industries' resources.
JK Simmons returning was great, and would have been a big enough moment for that mid-credits scene, without the twist of revealing Spider-Man's identity. How many times though can you stand to see him as the guy who's always struggling to pay bills, has to resort to living with his Aunt and being the perpetual punching bag of the universe?
Joe Quesada insisting on returning to the Status Quo is what lead to One More Day
Yeah, one of my big hopes for this Peter is that we get to see him grow, not just as a character but like grow up too. Become a twenty something, become a thirty something (wishful thinking, I know), have relationships, mature, have jobs. One of Into The Spiderverse's biggest strengths is Peter B. Parker, and it's not because he's stuck as a perpetual "aw shucks" teenager/twenty something that has the world constantly crapping on him. Even if his life's not ideal, it feels lived, he feels like a logical continuation of the character. Heck, same with the first Peter Parker in that movie. He's the other side of the coin, but he still feels like a Peter that's grown up and grown out of this crystallized image of Peter Parker that Quesada loves. Spider-man comics, like most comics really, have always been a mixed bag. But I've never faulted a writer for trying to shake up the status quo and try something new with Peter, especially post-OMD that dumped decades worth of development down the drain to try to shove Peter into a peg that didn't fit the character or its audience anymore. I've never understood fans that decried said attempts either, but then also were mad at attempts like Quesada's to maintain the status quo. And honestly, we've had two cinematic franchises of a Peter stuck like that. Isn't it time we try something different? One of my biggest concerns going into Homecoming and with the MCU Peter was that Sony wouldn't let him organically grow as a character because of the perceived marketability of that version of Peter, or that someone high up in the MCU would have the same hang up's Quesada had.
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Jul 11, 2019 18:53:09 GMT -5
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Jul 11, 2019 18:57:33 GMT -5
Having so much Ned will work to their advantage if they have him be a pawn/stand in for Hobgoblin later. I really hope they do, it'd add a layer of tension if we the audience knows Ned isn't responsible or really a bad guy when Peter doesn't.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jul 11, 2019 19:01:05 GMT -5
Happy Hogan really punched above his weight.
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Post by the2ndevil on Jul 11, 2019 20:02:33 GMT -5
Having so much Ned will work to their advantage if they have him be a pawn/stand in for Hobgoblin later. I really hope they do, it'd add a layer of tension if we the audience knows Ned isn't responsible or really a bad guy when Peter doesn't. I believe Ned’s actor said he wants them to do just that
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Jul 11, 2019 20:11:36 GMT -5
Having so much Ned will work to their advantage if they have him be a pawn/stand in for Hobgoblin later. I really hope they do, it'd add a layer of tension if we the audience knows Ned isn't responsible or really a bad guy when Peter doesn't. I believe Ned’s actor said he wants them to do just that I think it'd work really well, first to shock the general audience when they think he is Hobby, then with pathos when you reveal he's not. Only semi-related, I do wonder as well what exactly they're setting up with Flash. They've had a couple scenes bow where his parents have been kind of absentee and that seeming to really bother him. I don't see them including that if they weren't going somewhere with it.
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Post by King Boo on Jul 11, 2019 20:51:28 GMT -5
I believe Ned’s actor said he wants them to do just that I think it'd work really well, first to shock the general audience when they think he is Hobby, then with pathos when you reveal he's not. Only semi-related, I do wonder as well what exactly they're setting up with Flash. They've had a couple scenes bow where his parents have been kind of absentee and that seeming to really bother him. I don't see them including that if they weren't going somewhere with it. They have to be. Between the scene at the airport and the text he was sending his mom when Peter used EDITH on the bus... definitely using it for something in the future.
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Post by Squirlzilla on Jul 11, 2019 20:55:08 GMT -5
Watched it today!
The early story felt like one of those late 90s teen romantic comedies (i.e. EuroTrip) with all the high school stuff going on. But once the Spidey stuff started happening, then it really picked up.
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