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Post by A Platypus Rave on Jul 15, 2019 1:56:34 GMT -5
It's mostly just a nod to the next phase being Phase 4. Though I have talked with someone have corny and perfect it would be if it was so on the nose that Phase 4 literally ends with the FF. it is a real construction site thing... but it was most certainly a phase 4 thing though with the See what we have in store or whatever wording.
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Post by eJm on Jul 15, 2019 16:38:07 GMT -5
Just finished seeing it and it was fun. Not amazing but it did enough to develop characters with some genuine laughs at times. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}I literally gasped at the JK Simmons cameo. Like, I sort of hoped for it but goddamn, that made me so f***ing happy.
Also I may or may not have screamed F*** at the implication of a Secret Invasion storyline but hey, Nick Fury being with the Skrulls has cooler implications.
Also yay Ben Mendelsohn!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2019 15:02:47 GMT -5
Saw it today and realized something walking out of the theater. {Spoiler}That last clip was Mysterio basically telling Spidey "Even Dead, I'm The Hero."
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Jul 17, 2019 10:04:01 GMT -5
I did like the credits having both Stan and Steve's signature as a kind of tribute to them since they both passed last year.
Instead of just the usual Based on characters created by Stan Lee and Steve Ditko credit.
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Jul 17, 2019 10:06:01 GMT -5
I’m surprised they didn’t use the special Stan Lee version of the usual Marvel Studios intro, which would’ve made the song used in the movie for the intro even more fitting.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2019 15:43:06 GMT -5
I finally just saw this and I gotta say, I thought it was kinda bad. Movie was boring and predictable as f***. Majority of scenes came off horrifically cringey instead of genuinely endearing like the last movie. Beginning and end were good but the middle actually had me wishing I could pause the movie and take a break from how goddamn cringe it was.
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Post by IgnahtaSempria on Jul 23, 2019 19:02:11 GMT -5
In a discussion related to this, can Marvel decide if Peter is either a young kid who only vaguely knows pop culture or he's uber nerd? Like the jokes about him only sort of knowing Empire Strikes Back or mistaking AC/DC for Zeppelin are funny, but if Pete is the level of nerd he's supposed to be, he's gonna know these things haha. On the one hand, I get where you're coming from. On the other hand, I know some people and have met some people that are roughly Peter's age that are pretty nerdy that would make the same mistakes or only sort of know ESB (but maybe, say, know more what you're talking about if you're talking about the prequel movies). While there will always be nerds that know what ESB is or would never mistake AC/DC for Zeppelin, there's also some in the younger generations that would. Remember, this Peter Parker at the absolute earliest was born after 1999 probably. Most likely sometime in the 2000's. He's a child of his era as much as you or I are of ours. Finally saw the film earlier today. It's a lot of fun. I'm still not the biggest fan of Stark being Peter's mentor figure (if only because I grew up with them almost never interacting), but I don't hate it or anything. Holland and Zendaya have great chemistry together. The Happy/May stuff was fun. Mysterio was goddamn perfect! Loved everything to do with him. Just a really solid, entertaining flick. I'm fine with the Tony & Peter relationship for two reasons. A big component of Peter Parker's character has always been collecting surrogate father figures, usually with them either dying tragically or becoming a villain. It's a staple of Spider-man stories and it has been, sheesh, for a long time. He's always looking for that person to replace the father he never had (or depending on the story and how self aware Peter is at the moment, to replace Ben). The other reason is that while I didn't grow up with it really, they have spent the last two decades in the comics really pushing the Tony & Peter mentor and student relationship. And while sometimes it has been clumsily handled in the comics, I think it really works in the MCU. Well. Worked. That said, not going to lie, during the Mysterio illusions segment of the movie I expected the grave stone to have Ben's name on it but was like "Oh, duh" when it had Tony's. I think MCU and Sony are trying to walk a fine line with Ben and understandably so, the public at large doesn't need Uncle Ben dying in a cinematic universe for the third time. Heck, I was tired of it by the second time (not helped at all by Spider-man 3 rehashing their version of it again too in it making the Amazing Spider-man's technically the third time we saw Ben die). They don't need flashbacks to Ben giving the same advice he's always given as Peter sulks thinking back on it. There's enough hints, winks and nods in the universe to let you know Ben existed, he died, and he mattered to Peter and May. I think sometimes Spider-man media relies too heavily on Uncle Ben to inject their stories with weight or the human element rather than taking the time to really focus on Peter and develop Peter as a character. They use the character as a crutch. As an easy way to make the audience sympathize for Peter rather than necessarily empathize with him. I'd rather the MCU do what they've been doing and maybe save a Ben flashback or a direct acknowledgement of him for a moment to give the story they're telling that really big thrust. I thought that would be the case as well, but the name on the tombstone makes sense to me. Peter never actually mentions Uncle Ben to Mysterio, so he wouldn't have any way of knowing how that would affect Peter. It's not like Scarecrow's fear gas, where the victim sees what their mind tells them to see. Mysterio controls the illusion, so he can only alter it in ways he knows about.
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Post by chrom on Jul 26, 2019 19:19:12 GMT -5
Its joined the billion club
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Post by eJm on Jul 26, 2019 19:27:24 GMT -5
Its joined the billion club Rumor was that Sony were going to not negotiate a rights extension if this movie didn’t make a billion. If so...well, Marvel’s doing more Spider-Man movies.
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