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Post by Facetious on Jan 29, 2019 2:45:35 GMT -5
Huge if true. This last heel turn has been.... something else to say the least
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Post by alexwrightspackage on Jan 29, 2019 2:46:20 GMT -5
Can't begrudge someone leaving if he's unhappy. I imagine he may come back down the line, but good on him to have the means and will to not stay where he doesn't want to.
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Post by ayumidah on Jan 29, 2019 2:50:16 GMT -5
I wonder if people are going to keep interrupting his promos if he keeps trying to talk about when he first signed his WWE contract and finally he just goes, "FINE DAMMIT! I QUIT!" and we never see him again lol
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Post by BRAINFADE on Jan 29, 2019 2:50:30 GMT -5
Get the hell out of there Dean, and don't look back.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2019 2:53:04 GMT -5
Well, damn, this’d probably be the biggest exit from WWE since Punk left. I would put it on the same level as Cody, TBH. If true, it sounds like it's about at the same level of acrimony for similar reasons. And, coincidentally, you have to figure AEW and ROH are going to be chomping at the bit to sign the guy as a centerpiece of the Free Agent Wars. I'd say bigger than Cody, former champion and the first of the Shield to leave the company. I'd say AEW, ROH, Japan, Acting in order of likelihood. That the Khan's can offer WWE money would be a factor. I don't think he's got the background for MMA or another sport.
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Post by King Devitt on Jan 29, 2019 2:57:23 GMT -5
One would think that this would be a wake up call to Vince if someone is leaving because the creative side of things sucks so bad.
Dude could have been this generations version of Austin, but way f***ing crazier. He could have brought ratings if they'd just let him be who he is.
I'm glad he's leaving. More people need to. Especially those being mishandled and money isn't the end all be all.
Getting tired of Vince being like:
Here's a new contract
-I don't like what you're doing with me
Here's MORE MONEY
-I don't like what you're doing with me
-HERE'S EVEN MORE MONEY!!!
...like, just learn how to play to people's strengths, stop scripting shit, and watch the ratings roll in.
This is all on Vince being a massive failure with a sure thing like Jon Moxley.
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Post by bearned on Jan 29, 2019 2:58:15 GMT -5
AEW bound for sure. They’ll throw money at him and give him everything he wants.
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Post by Prince Petty on Jan 29, 2019 2:58:39 GMT -5
Good for him, if he's unhappy. The WWE has acted for way too long like they can give wrestlers shit, knowing there's nowhere else for them to go.
Whether Dean plans to go to Japan, or ROH or AEW, or whether he plans to just hunt raccoons and coyotes in Arizona, it will be better for him.
And maybe better for the WWE in the long run, as they realise they have to treat supposed stars better.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jan 29, 2019 2:59:48 GMT -5
Holy shit
Wonder if he wants to take a break and is just fatigued because if not the dude is in the best shape of his life and you're going to have people breaking down his door to get to him
On the flip side if he does leave and goes elsewhere I wonder if Renee decides to go with him
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Jan 29, 2019 3:00:08 GMT -5
I'm wondering the same thing too. Especially after him apparently nearly dying last year from complications from his injury. He might have just decided that it's not worth it anymore. Yeah, if his heart's not in it anymore, then there's no point in staying and doing such a grinding schedule. From how it reads, it doesn't seem like it'd be a "bridges burnt" type of departure... hopefully, anyway. Yeah, it doesn't look like a "bridges burnt" thing, they offered him a raise and they probably want to keep Renee. The injury, complications, his not social nature, and Roman's illness has probably all added up to him just being completely burnt out and doesn't want to do it anymore.
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Jan 29, 2019 3:05:12 GMT -5
Dude had a heel turn where it seemed like maybe he would be able to get that good f***ed up crazy heel Jon Moxley shit we've been waiting for. Then he became germophobic Bane. No surprise he's frustrated with his direction. I also don't think him being against hokey stuff precludes him from working AEW if he's given the control over his own work to be what he wants to be. But I do love the idea someone big is walking away from WWE for being creatively unfulfilled and ignored. It's not just the money or the championships, it's about what he put in. That's a good position to see someone take.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jan 29, 2019 3:05:32 GMT -5
I'm wondering the same thing too. Especially after him apparently nearly dying last year from complications from his injury. He might have just decided that it's not worth it anymore. Yeah, if his heart's not in it anymore, then there's no point in staying and doing such a grinding schedule. From how it reads, it doesn't seem like it'd be a "bridges burnt" type of departure... hopefully, anyway. Yea, this seems like I need a break and not the Ziggler type of break. Wonder if he just sits at home and enjoy the money he's collected in his career already and just let his mind and body heal because at this point in his career he doesn't seem like he's going to want to be all over like a Cody Rhodes was doing
Way I read it, it seems he's just not in love with wrestling right now and instead of taking the money and being stuck in a contract he rather have his freedom and can just sit on his ass if he feels like it and after all the hard work he's put in and the money he has made, I don't blame him
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2019 3:08:33 GMT -5
Yeah, if his heart's not in it anymore, then there's no point in staying and doing such a grinding schedule. From how it reads, it doesn't seem like it'd be a "bridges burnt" type of departure... hopefully, anyway. Yea, this seems like I need a break and not the Ziggler type of break. Wonder if he just sits at home and enjoy the money he's collected in his career already and just let his mind and body heal because at this point in his career he doesn't seem like he's going to want to be all over like a Cody Rhodes was doing
Way I read it, it seems he's just not in love with wrestling right now and instead of taking the money and being stuck in a contract he rather have his freedom and can just sit on his ass if he feels like it and after all the hard work he's put in and the money he has made, I don't blame him
On top of that, the man wrestled death matches, hardcore matches, never got an off day of the WWE schedule until his elbow got hurt, then the near death experience? Yeah, I don’t blame him one bit if he wants to retire.
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Post by Prince Petty on Jan 29, 2019 3:13:18 GMT -5
But I do love the idea someone big is walking away from WWE for being creatively unfulfilled and ignored. It's not just the money or the championships, it's about what he put in. That's a good position to see someone take. Renee herself threatened this as well. On Edge and Christian's podcast, she talked about making it clear to the WWE that she was not creatively satisfied just being a backstage interviewer, and seemed to imply that if they didn't give her more to do, she'd look for something else. A month or two later, she was put on the commentary team. So they really should be starting to think more about the way they treat talent, creatively.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jan 29, 2019 3:14:26 GMT -5
Yea, this seems like I need a break and not the Ziggler type of break. Wonder if he just sits at home and enjoy the money he's collected in his career already and just let his mind and body heal because at this point in his career he doesn't seem like he's going to want to be all over like a Cody Rhodes was doing
Way I read it, it seems he's just not in love with wrestling right now and instead of taking the money and being stuck in a contract he rather have his freedom and can just sit on his ass if he feels like it and after all the hard work he's put in and the money he has made, I don't blame him
On top of that, the man wrestled death matches, hardcore matches, never got an off day of the WWE schedule until his elbow got hurt, then the near death experience? Yeah, I don’t blame him one bit if he wants to retire. Yea, go home and enjoy your life
On one side it's great a precedent is set that Vince just can't throw money at a situation to hope it fixes it as i'm sure he probably offered damn near whatever he wanted but he's a diff beast. People will take it as yeah f*** the WWE and maybe that's true but there is a big level of respect there as well because if he's been this frustrated he could have pulled a Punk and Neville and just went home
On the flip side, you also have to think about the personal side. The near death experience, Roman being sick, just a lot of shit that's gone on over a year time for him. Maybe he wants to be a dad, maybe he just wants to relax because he has the money to retire, whatever the case is he's clearly fatigued and just wants to relax
Getting out of WWE and the system in general does well for a lot of guys mental health and whatever he wants to do I hope he does it
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Post by David-Arquette was in WCW 2000 on Jan 29, 2019 3:15:23 GMT -5
Fair enough, I don't blame him.
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Post by sfvega on Jan 29, 2019 3:19:36 GMT -5
Big news but sadly not surprising. They've done nothing great with him, but tons of laughably bad shit. And if there is one guy on the roster who is not gonna take much of that, it's Ambrose.
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Post by GuyOfOwnage on Jan 29, 2019 3:25:52 GMT -5
The guy damn near died, got into the best shape of his life and that botched heel turn was how they repaid him. Yeah, I don't blame him one bit.
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Post by Ryushinku on Jan 29, 2019 3:30:33 GMT -5
Fair enough. It's been pretty disappointing the last couple of years, particularly from an in-ring point of view.
He's got the talent to succeed elsewhere, and if a bigger pay packet isn't his answer then he can have more fun creatively elsewhere. He has three or four good options, AEW included.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2019 3:38:46 GMT -5
I can't even claim to be all that surprised honestly. Or really that I'd especially miss him at this point with how completely underwhelming he's been since he came back.
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