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Post by Sir Woodrow on Feb 24, 2019 20:57:05 GMT -5
Who else is ready for Arncast with Conrad Thompson? I can't wait for the episode where Arm talks at length about how he was George Hackenschmidt's personal agent for his matches
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Feb 24, 2019 20:57:57 GMT -5
But the problem is that unlike Dusty and Trips, Jarrett has failed at every wrestling venture he has ever tried. He has a resume filled with failures. If it wasn’t for Vince giving him a job, he would still be conning people with the gold scheme. Well.. Everyone has ultimately been a "failure" competing against Vince since he put everyone out of business. He could have probably put TNA Out of business YEARS ago if he wanted to But not like Jarrett, no one comes close. The failed weekly ppv concepts. The name that killed the company forever. Hiring only the failures from wcw. Losing the company from underneath him. The joke and all the empty arena tours that were GFW. The gold scam. Drunken tortillas.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Feb 24, 2019 20:59:16 GMT -5
Who else is ready for Arncast with Conrad Thompson? Lol Conrad actually joked about that years ago. Arn is a horrible interview because he still tries to keep Kayfabe.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Feb 24, 2019 21:25:29 GMT -5
Ric and Arn had a falling out? Quite some time back. Ric and an ex had a fight and Arn and his wife sided with the ex. They've been frosty ever since.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Feb 25, 2019 1:47:43 GMT -5
Ric and Arn had a falling out? Quite some time back. Ric and an ex had a fight and Arn and his wife sided with the ex. They've been frosty ever since. m Can’t blame him. Ric dragged Arn through some deep shit for decades. He even almost got stabbed to death because of Flair.
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Post by RadcapRadsley on Feb 25, 2019 1:53:53 GMT -5
I don’t know if there is any correlation here, but it is interesting: I am watching Jeff Jarrett. I see him gaining power in the company quickly. HHH better have spies on him,JJ will get Vince to sign away his grandchildren's inheritance for some gold bars
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Feb 25, 2019 2:16:23 GMT -5
I don’t know if there is any correlation here, but it is interesting: I am watching Jeff Jarrett. I see him gaining power in the company quickly. Double J is a family friend of the McMahons, including Triple H so he was aways going to have a home fairly high in the WWE once he was done playing promoter. That said, this is just coincidence, the WWE finding an excuse to cut someone whose biggest supporter in the company is on the way out to work in Hollywood to make way for younger, cheaper agents.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Feb 25, 2019 2:58:42 GMT -5
I don’t know if there is any correlation here, but it is interesting: I am watching Jeff Jarrett. I see him gaining power in the company quickly. Double J is a family friend of the McMahons, including Triple H so he was aways going to have a home fairly high in the WWE once he was done playing promoter. That said, this is just coincidence, the WWE finding an excuse to cut someone whose biggest supporter in the company is on the way out to work in Hollywood to make way for younger, cheaper agents. Jerry was Vince’s friend but not his son Jeff. Vince actually told both Jarrett and Lawler that Jeff was one of the worst promo guys he ever watched since Bob Backlund. Then the whole Chyna fiasco, I know it was money owed to Jeff, but he admitted that Vince got mad and told him that he wasn’t being reasonable. I also don’t think it was random that Vince took the time to shit on Jeff during the simulcast. Jarrett got a mercy job because his friendship with Road Dogg, that’s it, I don’t think he matters much to Vince or anyone there.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Feb 25, 2019 3:19:10 GMT -5
Double J is a family friend of the McMahons, including Triple H so he was aways going to have a home fairly high in the WWE once he was done playing promoter. That said, this is just coincidence, the WWE finding an excuse to cut someone whose biggest supporter in the company is on the way out to work in Hollywood to make way for younger, cheaper agents. Jerry was Vince’s friend but not his son Jeff. Vince actually told both Jarrett and Lawler that Jeff was one of the worst promo guys he ever watched since Bob Backlund. Then the whole Chyna fiasco, I know it was money owed to Jeff, but he admitted that Vince got mad and told him that he wasn’t being reasonable. I also don’t think it was random that Vince took the time to shit on Jeff during the simulcast. Jarrett got a mercy job because his friendship with Road Dogg, that’s it, I don’t think he matters much to Vince or anyone there. Vince was the first to reach out to Double J after his wife's death and it's telling, in the era of petty burial dvds, there was never any talk of doing one about Jarrett because he was fairly well liked. He got a slight in a dvd from a never was, who caused a lot of issues for WCW in his own right, but that was pretty much it. People want there to be drama as it's fun, but I don't think it was ever there to the extent people would like to believe.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Feb 25, 2019 3:22:23 GMT -5
Jerry was Vince’s friend but not his son Jeff. Vince actually told both Jarrett and Lawler that Jeff was one of the worst promo guys he ever watched since Bob Backlund. Then the whole Chyna fiasco, I know it was money owed to Jeff, but he admitted that Vince got mad and told him that he wasn’t being reasonable. I also don’t think it was random that Vince took the time to shit on Jeff during the simulcast. Jarrett got a mercy job because his friendship with Road Dogg, that’s it, I don’t think he matters much to Vince or anyone there. Vince was the first to reach out to Double J after his wife's death and it's telling, in the era of petty burial dvds, there was never any talk of doing one about Jarrett because he was fairly well liked. He got a slight in a dvd from a never was, who caused a lot of issues for WCW in his own right, but that was pretty much it. People want there to be drama as it's fun, but I don't think it was ever there to the extent people would like to believe. It’s nothing new for Vince to reach out when there’s tragedy, he did it with Bret and others too. The burial came over the years from other people other than Mike Graham. The round table and books took a shit on the Jarretts and TNA. In the four horsemen documentary they even took time to shit on him. Jeff being well liked? Ask AJ and Monty Brown and Raven and Rhyno. While he helped give people their first opportunity, he also hogged the spotlight. Ask Bob Ryder and the Hardys about Jarrett’s drunken tirades Currently there’s no drama but in the past even Jerry himself admitted that Vince resented his son for years.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2019 8:13:17 GMT -5
Doing the math this weekend.... Arn was 38 when he retired. THAT Arn ....THAT ONE RIGHT THERE.... was not even 40. Wow. - Dave speculates that this likely wouldn’t have happened if John Cena was still full-time because Arn was Cena’s agent and they were close Oh, this seems fairly telling too. Sounds like Cena isn't even much of a part time factor anymore either.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Feb 25, 2019 9:01:52 GMT -5
Ric and Arn had a falling out? Quite some time back. Ric and an ex had a fight and Arn and his wife sided with the ex. They've been frosty ever since. Damn, Ric's so broke his ex-wives are now getting his friends in the divorce.
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Post by Doctor Of Style on Feb 25, 2019 10:32:49 GMT -5
Double J is a family friend of the McMahons, including Triple H so he was aways going to have a home fairly high in the WWE once he was done playing promoter. That said, this is just coincidence, the WWE finding an excuse to cut someone whose biggest supporter in the company is on the way out to work in Hollywood to make way for younger, cheaper agents. Jerry was Vince’s friend but not his son Jeff. Vince actually told both Jarrett and Lawler that Jeff was one of the worst promo guys he ever watched since Bob Backlund. Then the whole Chyna fiasco, I know it was money owed to Jeff, but he admitted that Vince got mad and told him that he wasn’t being reasonable. I also don’t think it was random that Vince took the time to shit on Jeff during the simulcast. Jarrett got a mercy job because his friendship with Road Dogg, that’s it, I don’t think he matters much to Vince or anyone there. Jeff is also friends with Bruce Prichard, I could see him lobbying for Double J.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Feb 25, 2019 10:51:54 GMT -5
Jerry was Vince’s friend but not his son Jeff. Vince actually told both Jarrett and Lawler that Jeff was one of the worst promo guys he ever watched since Bob Backlund. Then the whole Chyna fiasco, I know it was money owed to Jeff, but he admitted that Vince got mad and told him that he wasn’t being reasonable. I also don’t think it was random that Vince took the time to shit on Jeff during the simulcast. Jarrett got a mercy job because his friendship with Road Dogg, that’s it, I don’t think he matters much to Vince or anyone there. Jeff is also friends with Bruce Prichard, I could see him lobbying for Double J. And Stephanie despises Bruce Prichard. This is a weird version of Rock Paper Scissors.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2019 13:30:05 GMT -5
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Post by realist on Feb 25, 2019 13:36:23 GMT -5
Jerry was Vince’s friend but not his son Jeff. Vince actually told both Jarrett and Lawler that Jeff was one of the worst promo guys he ever watched since Bob Backlund. Then the whole Chyna fiasco, I know it was money owed to Jeff, but he admitted that Vince got mad and told him that he wasn’t being reasonable. I also don’t think it was random that Vince took the time to shit on Jeff during the simulcast. Jarrett got a mercy job because his friendship with Road Dogg, that’s it, I don’t think he matters much to Vince or anyone there. Vince was the first to reach out to Double J after his wife's death and it's telling, in the era of petty burial dvds, there was never any talk of doing one about Jarrett because he was fairly well liked. He got a slight in a dvd from a never was, who caused a lot of issues for WCW in his own right, but that was pretty much it. People want there to be drama as it's fun, but I don't think it was ever there to the extent people would like to believe. A never was? A NEVER WAS?! You must be mistaken. He literally came up with every great idea that WCW ever had, including but not limited to the Disney tapings, signing Hulk Hogan, doing Monday Nitro, and the NWO! I know this because he said so himself!! *Sorry. I can never pass up an opportunity to mock Mike Graham.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2019 13:43:03 GMT -5
Oh, he was expected at the legit party they had for Ric in Atlanta this weekend (with folks like Charles Barkley, Evander Holyfield, Ron Funches, HHH, Hayes, Steamboat, Shane and even Chris Jericho)... That's comforting to hear - sounds like they'd patched things up after all. Though very unfortunate if he didn't attend because of the firing..
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Post by RowdyRobbyPiper on Feb 25, 2019 13:44:36 GMT -5
Vince was the first to reach out to Double J after his wife's death and it's telling, in the era of petty burial dvds, there was never any talk of doing one about Jarrett because he was fairly well liked. He got a slight in a dvd from a never was, who caused a lot of issues for WCW in his own right, but that was pretty much it. People want there to be drama as it's fun, but I don't think it was ever there to the extent people would like to believe. A never was? A NEVER WAS?! You must be mistaken. He literally came up with every great idea that WCW ever had, including but not limited to the Disney tapings, signing Hulk Hogan, doing Monday Nitro, and the NWO! I know this because he said so himself!! *Sorry. I can never pass up an opportunity to mock Mike Graham. Mike Graham was actually a draw in Florida for his father’s territory.
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Post by realist on Feb 25, 2019 13:48:25 GMT -5
A never was? A NEVER WAS?! You must be mistaken. He literally came up with every great idea that WCW ever had, including but not limited to the Disney tapings, signing Hulk Hogan, doing Monday Nitro, and the NWO! I know this because he said so himself!! *Sorry. I can never pass up an opportunity to mock Mike Graham. Mike Graham was actually a draw in Florida for his father’s territory. But he was delusional in all 50 states in the U.S.
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Post by The Thread Barbi on Feb 25, 2019 14:18:32 GMT -5
Certainly possible. A lot of guys on the roster, including some main eventers, got their big break with TNA and no doubt have fond feelings for him. He seems to be so appreciative of WWE bringing him back and bound and determined to show he's worthy of that faith. I could see him being cut from the Dusty/Hunter mold; when he's not booking himself, he can apply his vast knowledge of the business well and create an entertaining product. But the problem is that unlike Dusty and Trips, Jarrett has failed at every wrestling venture he has ever tried. He has a resume filled with failures. If it wasn’t for Vince giving him a job, he would still be conning people with the gold scheme. Better to have tried and failed than never done it. There's a reason businesses snap up directors or executives of failing or collapsed enterprises rather than promote from within.
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