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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Feb 25, 2019 14:27:45 GMT -5
Mike Graham was actually a draw in Florida for his father’s territory. But he was delusional in all 50 states in the U.S. Not in Florida, he drew there.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Feb 25, 2019 14:29:43 GMT -5
But the problem is that unlike Dusty and Trips, Jarrett has failed at every wrestling venture he has ever tried. He has a resume filled with failures. If it wasn’t for Vince giving him a job, he would still be conning people with the gold scheme. Better to have tried and failed than never done it. There's a reason businesses snap up directors or executives of failing or collapsed enterprises rather than promote from within. But that’s the thing, Jeff failed at everything. Not one single success. Every business or promotion he ever tried failed miserably. All he does is lose, lose no matter what.
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Post by Doctor Of Style on Feb 25, 2019 14:30:12 GMT -5
Jeff is also friends with Bruce Prichard, I could see him lobbying for Double J. And Stephanie despises Bruce Prichard. This is a weird version of Rock Paper Scissors. It doesn't sound like he'll have to deal with Steph this time around at least.
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Feb 25, 2019 14:34:16 GMT -5
Doing the math this weekend.... Arn was 38 when he retired. THAT Arn ....THAT ONE RIGHT THERE.... was not even 40. An Arn/Sable baby would look like George Burns when he was 12
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Feb 25, 2019 14:41:03 GMT -5
I hope Arn takes up his carpentry skills with all this free time, maybe they’ll stop being average.
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Post by The Thread Barbi on Feb 25, 2019 14:41:12 GMT -5
Better to have tried and failed than never done it. There's a reason businesses snap up directors or executives of failing or collapsed enterprises rather than promote from within. But that’s the thing, Jeff failed at everything. Not one single success. Every business or promotion he ever tried failed miserably. All he does is lose, lose no matter what. He's still had the gumption to start something up and make a stab at it, even multiple times. Another businessman or woman would see that as a positive, and respect the hell out it. Just look at any episode of Shark Tank or Dragon's Den as an example. The multi-millionaires invest in the person as much as the business.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Feb 25, 2019 14:44:51 GMT -5
But that’s the thing, Jeff failed at everything. Not one single success. Every business or promotion he ever tried failed miserably. All he does is lose, lose no matter what. He's still had the gumption to start something up and make a stab at it, even multiple times. Another businessman or woman would see that as a positive, and respect the hell out it. Just look at any episode of Shark Tank or Dragon's Den as an example. The multi-millionaires invest in the person as much as the business. There’s nothing admirable about always failing no matter what. Who’s gonna want to invest on Jeff Jarrett’s history of failures? He might be the worst wrestling promoter of all time. He’s the wrestling’s embodiment of Gil Gunderson from the Simpsons.
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Post by Slanted and Enchanted on Feb 25, 2019 14:46:57 GMT -5
Better to have tried and failed than never done it. There's a reason businesses snap up directors or executives of failing or collapsed enterprises rather than promote from within. But that’s the thing, Jeff failed at everything. Not one single success. Every business or promotion he ever tried failed miserably. All he does is lose, lose no matter what. That's a little harsh and a bit of an exaggeration as well. TNA had some good years and Jarrett was responsible for providing an outlet for some of the biggest names in wrestling post-MNW era. Just take a look at the WWE environment both on-camera and backstage today and you see so many people from Jarrett's TNA era in prominent roles.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Feb 25, 2019 14:56:28 GMT -5
But that’s the thing, Jeff failed at everything. Not one single success. Every business or promotion he ever tried failed miserably. All he does is lose, lose no matter what. That's a little harsh and a bit of an exaggeration as well. TNA had some good years and Jarrett was responsible for providing an outlet for some of the biggest names in wrestling post-MNW era. Just take a look at the WWE environment both on-camera and backstage today and you see so many people from Jarrett's TNA era in prominent roles. Let’s analyze his promoting career. In 2002 he started tna, he was reckless and hired a crook named Jay Schusmann who lied to him about the ppv buys causing them to waste their money away. Because of that they had to sell it to the Carters. TNA didn’t have good years, they only had one profitable year before Russo returned in 2006. After that they never drew shit again. He gave an outlet to important stars and their first break, those same stars were also fed to them when he had the nwa championship forever. He gets kicked out from tna, then creates the giant money pit in global force wrestling and he had the nerve to proclaim a wrestling boom even though his baseball shows were empty for the most part. He then cons Anthem into hiring him back and merge tna with gfw. His brilliant decisions consisted on hiring and giving a raise to a dangerous addict in Alberto Del Rio and ran the Hardys away from tna. This included drunken voice mail messages threatening them, according to Reby Hardy. Then he jeopardized tna’s relationship with aaa by wrestling under the influence. It’s not exaggeration, as a wrestler he was good, but as a promoter he’s nothing but a failure.
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Post by The Thread Barbi on Feb 25, 2019 15:02:11 GMT -5
He's still had the gumption to start something up and make a stab at it, even multiple times. Another businessman or woman would see that as a positive, and respect the hell out it. Just look at any episode of Shark Tank or Dragon's Den as an example. The multi-millionaires invest in the person as much as the business. There’s nothing admirable about always failing no matter what. Who’s gonna want to invest on Jeff Jarrett’s history of failures? He might be the worst wrestling promoter of all time. He’s the wrestling’s embodiment of Gil Gunderson from the Simpsons. Sorry to take this off course from the original topic, but he was successful. He created a company from scratch, and built it up to have a global audience along with a television deal in a few years. He created a viable second place alternative for the WWE. He didn't burn a billionaire's money like Bischoff, but staked his own to grow a company. I'm sure McMahon can respect that. It didn't have a high profile run, and was mired in problems, but then again most start-ups collapse in the first year of trading. Jarrett kept TNA alive for years. It is a measurable success.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Feb 25, 2019 15:04:46 GMT -5
There’s nothing admirable about always failing no matter what. Who’s gonna want to invest on Jeff Jarrett’s history of failures? He might be the worst wrestling promoter of all time. He’s the wrestling’s embodiment of Gil Gunderson from the Simpsons. Sorry to take this off course from the original topic, but he was successful. He created a company from scratch, and built it up to have a global audience along with a television deal in a few years. He created a viable second place alternative for the WWE. He didn't burn a billionaire's money like Bischoff, but staked his own to grow a company. I'm sure McMahon can respect that. It didn't have a high profile run, and was mired in problems, but then again most start-ups collapse in the first year of trading. Jarrett kept TNA alive for years. It is a measurable success. Keeping something alive for years without turning a profit. I guess we have different concepts of what it’s succesful. Jerry Jarrett was successful, Jeff wasn’t. Jerry actually turned a profit, Jeff has never turned a profit in his life as a promoter. It’s known that tna was a money pit for both Panda and Spike TV. Jarrett didn’t kept tna alive for years, it was the Carters just to keep Dixie’s vanity project alive.
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Post by The Thread Barbi on Feb 25, 2019 15:16:11 GMT -5
Sorry to take this off course from the original topic, but he was successful. He created a company from scratch, and built it up to have a global audience along with a television deal in a few years. He created a viable second place alternative for the WWE. He didn't burn a billionaire's money like Bischoff, but staked his own to grow a company. I'm sure McMahon can respect that. It didn't have a high profile run, and was mired in problems, but then again most start-ups collapse in the first year of trading. Jarrett kept TNA alive for years. It is a measurable success. Keeping something alive for years without turning a profit. I guess we have different concepts of what it’s succesful. Jerry Jarrett was successful, Jeff wasn’t. Jerry actually turned a profit, Jeff has never turned a profit in his life as a promoter. It’s known that tna was a money pit for both Panda and Spike TV. Amazon didn't turn a profit for several years. Is that a failure? www.quora.com/Is-Amazon-profitableMy point is, he still ventured into his own business, probably without a financial safety net, and made something of it. He's much more valuable to the WWE than someone who was good in the ring, but only ever drew a paycheck, without running a company of their own, which is a different set of skills entirely.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Feb 25, 2019 15:22:39 GMT -5
Keeping something alive for years without turning a profit. I guess we have different concepts of what it’s succesful. Jerry Jarrett was successful, Jeff wasn’t. Jerry actually turned a profit, Jeff has never turned a profit in his life as a promoter. It’s known that tna was a money pit for both Panda and Spike TV. Amazon didn't turn a profit for several years. Is that a failure? www.quora.com/Is-Amazon-profitableMy point is, he still ventured into his own business, probably without a financial safety net, and made something of it. He's much more valuable to the WWE than someone who was good in the ring, but only ever drew a paycheck, without running a company of their own, which is a different set of skills entirely. Don’t compare amazon to tna and global force wrestling and mutli level marketing schemes. TNA had to fire Jarrett for his embarrassments and because he was tanking the profits, Callis and D’Amore somehow managed to stop the bleeding. Also unlike Amazon, Jarrett’s ventures are actually dead or close to. Hiring Jeff Jarrett to manage a wrestling company is like hiring the Enron people to be your accountants. He never made anything out of tna, in fact he lost money because of it. I repeat gold karat bars.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Feb 25, 2019 15:29:22 GMT -5
This thread isn't about Jeff Jarrett guys, and y'all need to stop going in circles.
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Post by The Thread Barbi on Feb 25, 2019 16:34:38 GMT -5
This thread isn't about Jeff Jarrett guys, and y'all need to stop going in circles. Yup. I did apologise beforehand to veer off topic. Back on topic - does Vince McMahon even show up to house shows anymore? Did he turn up specifically to let Arn go? He's petty like that. And does it even matter what didn't go "perfectly" on said house show? I smell some bullshit as a reason to get rid of Arn, as others have said.
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Post by cjh on Feb 25, 2019 16:40:39 GMT -5
This thread isn't about Jeff Jarrett guys, and y'all need to stop going in circles. Yup. I did apologise beforehand to veer off topic. Back on topic - does Vince McMahon even show up to house shows anymore?Did he turn up specifically to let Arn go? He's petty like that. And does it even matter what didn't go "perfectly" on said house show? I smell some bullshit as a reason to get rid of Arn, as others have said. Except for ones held at MSG, Vince has pretty much never attended house shows, at least not to observe/run them. I do remember in 2003, when Roddy Piper was let go, he and Bruce Prichard went to house shows to do Brother Love Show segments with Zach Gowen as replacements for the scheduled Piper's Pits.
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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on Feb 25, 2019 18:03:31 GMT -5
Joke is on all you fools.
All of Seth Rollins matches are produced by a masked man named Barn Banderson.
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Post by eJm on Feb 25, 2019 18:10:21 GMT -5
Joke is on all you fools. All of Seth Rollins matches are produced by a masked man named Barn Banderson. Amazingly, he’s a 27 year old whose looked 56 for a decade.
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Post by Mister Pigwell on Feb 25, 2019 18:14:17 GMT -5
Any rumors circulating just what the hell happened?
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Post by I'm Team Bayley and Indi on Feb 25, 2019 18:30:46 GMT -5
Does this make Lil' Naitch the last man standing from the WCW buyout, who has stayed continously employed
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