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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2019 18:53:29 GMT -5
And I haven't seen anyone refuse her apology. Oh, I've seen a lot of it. Granted, mostly on Twitter. And it was definitely part of the early pages of replies in this thread. Ridiculous. She did something dumb, and apologized.
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Post by The Ichi on May 1, 2019 18:57:28 GMT -5
And I haven't seen anyone refuse her apology. Oh, I've seen a lot of it. Granted, mostly on Twitter. And it was definitely part of the early pages of replies in this thread. Ridiculous. She did something dumb, and apologized. And nobody is required to accept it. But I'm saying I haven't seen any witch-hunting going on.
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Post by benstudd on May 1, 2019 19:48:57 GMT -5
Still I will say this whole situation was designed to lead to something like that no matter what. She was insulting people that paid for it and then someone pay for her service and he didn't want to be insulted(maybe?) and she said the slur and hoops it wasn't the right person to say that too. Seems like the whole concept was meant to be a disaster. I don't think I've even heard how the guy who got insulted took it. It's irrelevant to what people are talking about here. You're focusing so much on this one guy but it's not about him and it's not even really about the idea of insulting people who pay you to insult them, it's that the word she used for it was a harmful slur. I'm not focusing on this one guy, I'm saying the concept is what it is. And you get what you asked for.
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Post by King Devitt on May 2, 2019 2:35:48 GMT -5
I don't think I've even heard how the guy who got insulted took it. It's irrelevant to what people are talking about here. You're focusing so much on this one guy but it's not about him and it's not even really about the idea of insulting people who pay you to insult them, it's that the word she used for it was a harmful slur. I'm not focusing on this one guy, I'm saying the concept is what it is. And you get what you asked for. If I paid Rhea Ripley money to insult me, I wouldn't expect to be called a homophobic slur that I've heard wayyyyyy too many times in my life already. And would be justly offended. Payment for services rendered isn't the point, how she rendered the service is.
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Post by benstudd on May 2, 2019 4:06:02 GMT -5
I'm not focusing on this one guy, I'm saying the concept is what it is. And you get what you asked for. If I paid Rhea Ripley money to insult me, I wouldn't expect to be called a homophobic slur that I've heard wayyyyyy too many times in my life already. And would be justly offended. Payment for services rendered isn't the point, how she rendered the service is. Actually yes I would expect that. That is like the concept of the show, you know? If I pay someone to insult me I want that person to curse at me the worst things in the history of man. Not clean it up. I pay for the freaking service, I expect to get my money's worth. Is the concept stupid, though? Yep.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2019 4:22:32 GMT -5
I’m still on the side of no one should say slurs at all under any circumstances, but I do get a kick out of the argument “if I pay someone to insult me I don’t want them to use actual words that could insult me”. It’s like the roast of Michael Scott or that American Dad when Roger wants to be roasted for his birthday.
It’s why the concept of paying to be insulted doesn’t work on any level if you’re someone that will actually get insulted.
Again I just hope everyone grows and learns a lesson.
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Post by KobashiChop on May 2, 2019 7:48:03 GMT -5
I'm not focusing on this one guy, I'm saying the concept is what it is. And you get what you asked for. If I paid Rhea Ripley money to insult me, I wouldn't expect to be called a homophobic slur that I've heard wayyyyyy too many times in my life already. And would be justly offended. Payment for services rendered isn't the point, how she rendered the service is. "Heres money, insult me" "Woah woah woah, that's too insulting" My opinion on this is well documented in this thread but this is a really nonsensical POV here.
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Post by chronocross on May 2, 2019 8:10:52 GMT -5
The person paid to get insulted, they got what they wanted in this case and she apologized for it afterwards.
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Post by The 1Watcher Experience on May 2, 2019 8:55:23 GMT -5
Roasts are kind of an anything goes environment. A lot of those early roasts on Comedy Central really go off the rails. The later ones are pretty tame by comparison. It’s a comedian’s job to say wild stuff so I can overlook their more offensive material because it’s clearly meant to be entertainment. Ripley isn’t a comedian so I can understand people being offended. Setting up a gig to roast people for $15 a pop doesn’t make her a comedian either. It wasn’t the best idea but it’s done. She apologized after. Was it a genuine apology or an “Uh oh I work for WWE and I’d better apologize right away or I could lose my job” moment? Only she knows that. I don’t know what’s in her heart.
So what’s the solution? I think having someone at WWE sit down and talk with her would be enough. I don’t think she needs to be fired or even sent to sensitivity training for this. She knows she screwed up. Some people will always bring this up if she ever does anything questionable again. That’s the way some people are. There will always be people that like to keep score. Hopefully she’s learned from this and can stay out of trouble.
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Post by trollrogue on May 2, 2019 17:54:05 GMT -5
I'm not focusing on this one guy, I'm saying the concept is what it is. And you get what you asked for. If I paid Rhea Ripley money to insult me, I wouldn't expect to be called a homophobic slur that I've heard wayyyyyy too many times in my life already. And would be justly offended. Payment for services rendered isn't the point, how she rendered the service is. That's the key. If the viewer specifically said 'insult me using homophobic slurs' that would be one thing. The GUI on the live stream simply said 'insult' and you would think Rhea would know better, or is more creative, to use a better insult than something that a large demographic would find offensive. Obviously since it's Brennan's stream she would NEVER start dropping n-bombs left and right to insult stream viewers, did she just forget that there are gay people in existence too? When in doubt, always go for the "yo mama so fat" joke! It's always PG. Then. Now. Forever.
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Post by Natural Born Farmer on May 2, 2019 19:57:00 GMT -5
Oh, I've seen a lot of it. Granted, mostly on Twitter. And it was definitely part of the early pages of replies in this thread. Ridiculous. She did something dumb, and apologized. And nobody is required to accept it. But I'm saying I haven't seen any witch-hunting going on. its a ten page thread about one word said on a live stream and almost immediately apologised for, with responses like “if she was really sorry, she wouldn’t have said it in the first place”.
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Post by The Ichi on May 2, 2019 20:26:33 GMT -5
And nobody is required to accept it. But I'm saying I haven't seen any witch-hunting going on. its a ten page thread about one word said on a live stream and almost immediately apologised for, with responses like “if she was really sorry, she wouldn’t have said it in the first place”. *sigh* Read the actual posts instead of singling one out. The thread is largely 10 pages of discussion about it.
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Post by The Ichi on May 2, 2019 20:34:47 GMT -5
Infact, mostly 10 pages of "this is why I hate Twitter" type posts. This is pne of those things where people just keep repeating "it's not a big deal!" even though a big deal is hardly being made.
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Post by Starshine on May 2, 2019 22:25:34 GMT -5
And nobody is required to accept it. But I'm saying I haven't seen any witch-hunting going on. its a ten page thread about one word said on a live stream and almost immediately apologised for, with responses like “if she was really sorry, she wouldn’t have said it in the first place”. Really though, if she was smart she'd have a better apology than "I'm sorry you were offended." That's not a genuine apology, and it's not taking responsibility either. That's just her pointing the finger at those who called her out.
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Post by evilone on May 3, 2019 3:00:30 GMT -5
Too bad we can't decide what we want in our lives. Do we want wild gladiator entertainment or do we want make a world better place cause the two can't really go together unless you are mentally strong enough to draw the line that you can walk back and forth without any consequences. But as soon as you let your emotions spill from one side onto the other than you are a no go for such thing. I mean people are paying wrestlers to get insulted and other people are watching that person being insulted and enjoying it so what did you expect? That she is gonna call him out for wearing green shoes or having a goatee? If she did so twitter would explode in her face how lazy and not of a good worker she is of course. Wrestling is the most stereotypic form of entertainment, kind of a bottom barrel where heat comes cheap. F word is a perfect insult for some stereotypes such as rednecks and other homophobes, it requires you to have a fast lane in your brain's part for communication skills to recognize the stereotype and process it as fast but some people don't have that kind of thing and some people just don't feel like using it that day.
I agree there is a fine line between swearing with no effect to knowing when to use a course word for super effect but expecting something like that from every wrestler is unrealistic. But again guy paid to get insulted, he got insulted. Other watched it for free cause they are thirsty for blood but when they got their mouthful they went to their social accounts to judge once again.
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Post by KobashiChop on May 3, 2019 5:35:29 GMT -5
its a ten page thread about one word said on a live stream and almost immediately apologised for, with responses like “if she was really sorry, she wouldn’t have said it in the first place”. Really though, if she was smart she'd have a better apology than "I'm sorry you were offended." That's not a genuine apology, and it's not taking responsibility either. That's just her pointing the finger at those who called her out. She literally said she was sorry to those who were offended by her choice of words. What she did not say is "sorry if you were offended". People who were offended, she apologised to. How else would you reword that?
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Post by ayumidah on May 8, 2019 13:10:46 GMT -5
I am shocked.
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Post by Brandon Walsh is Insane. on May 8, 2019 13:13:36 GMT -5
Well, it was a pretty dumb idea. Pay to get insulted... I get it, but come on... on something that is streaming and is downloadable? Bad idea.
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on May 8, 2019 13:24:17 GMT -5
Kinda sucks that they havr to shut everything down because of something someone else said.
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Post by DrBackflipsHoffman on May 8, 2019 14:06:47 GMT -5
I mean i'm gonna be honest here in terms of longevety, an internet stream where you pay people to insult you isn't up there with the model t. I'd be happy my god awful, pointless 90's Nickelodeon sitcom plot idea lasted as long as it did.
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