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Post by Welfare Willis on Apr 26, 2019 22:23:37 GMT -5
What an awful bundle of sticks this is.
Also, love our LGBTQ brothers, sisters, and friends of the non-binary.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Apr 27, 2019 4:29:20 GMT -5
Just as a question for the overseas people here how does that jive with the slang {Spoiler}{Spoiler}fag you use for smokes? [eta: spoilered and used for both clarity and sensitivity] This was explained in the earlier pages of the thread. 'Fag' is used for a cigarette. The two-syllable version does have non-offensive versions but it is not used for cigarettes.
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Post by atgnatpodcast on Apr 27, 2019 8:15:15 GMT -5
Everyone has said something regrettable, even you. This is no big deal and I hope she doesn’t lose her job over this nonsense. I don’t even know this chick I've never called someone that word. Congratulations, but at some point you’ve said something you have regretted and didn’t mean as much harm as it caused
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Post by r. on Apr 27, 2019 9:14:03 GMT -5
Just as a question for the overseas people here how does that jive with the slang {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}fag you use for smokes? [eta: spoilered and used for both clarity and sensitivity] This was explained in the earlier pages of the thread. 'Fag' is used for a cigarette. The two-syllable version does have non-offensive versions but it is not used for cigarettes. I was just curious because the shortened version here is also, usually, a no-no. Actually, it reminds me of an alternate phrase we have for laughter which has a similar issue. Anyway; She was a dumb dumb for saying it.
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Post by kidkamikaze10 on Apr 27, 2019 9:51:27 GMT -5
It was dumb, she apologized, she shouldn’t do it again.
Now the guys running the stream? Those guys should have gotten their release papers already. This is like the fourth or fifth incident involving them.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Apr 27, 2019 11:34:01 GMT -5
This was explained in the earlier pages of the thread. 'Fag' is used for a cigarette. The two-syllable version does have non-offensive versions but it is not used for cigarettes. I was just curious because the shortened version here is also, usually, a no-no. Actually, it reminds me of an alternate phrase we have for laughter which has a similar issue. Anyway; She was a dumb dumb for saying it. The shortened one is context specific here too.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Apr 27, 2019 11:47:51 GMT -5
It was dumb, she apologized, she shouldn’t do it again. Now the guys running the stream? Those guys should have gotten their release papers already. This is like the fourth or fifth incident involving them. If Brennan can't keep control of his streams, it's probably time to stop streaming. Wouldn't go so far as to fire him, but I would say "No more streaming, if this is going to keep happening."
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Post by avenger on Apr 27, 2019 11:51:27 GMT -5
That is pretty reductionist. As for Rhea, she is young and this was stupid. I don't for a second think she's a homophobe. This isn't something to lump in with Hogan. I'm queer, and at her age I still used that word as a 'generic' insult and I don't even come from Australia. People often think that intentions are magic and that using the word when *you* aren't phobic makes it okay. 100% this. People say stupid things in a reactionary way. As someone who is also in the LGTBQ community I find the people who sit on a soap box like the first poster way more offensive than someone who just slipped up. Putting yourself on a soap box and acting like you have never said anything stupid, while you have a giant pitchfork is FAR more detrimental to contemporary society than someone who says something dumb. Once again, as someone IN that community, if you are going to take part in an online social media lynch mob, please do not pretend to be apart of our community or act like you care. You are the thing we are fighting against. How dare you. As someone IN the LGBTQIA community, you do NOT speak for me. If you're happy with homophobic words being lazily thrown around as an insult, that's your own road, but I still remember the time when the word 'queer' was most usually followed by the word 'bashing', so forgive me if I carry on fighting against it too.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2019 11:53:32 GMT -5
It was dumb, she apologized, she shouldn’t do it again. Now the guys running the stream? Those guys should have gotten their release papers already. This is like the fourth or fifth incident involving them. What else has happened with them?
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Post by Legion on Apr 27, 2019 12:40:21 GMT -5
Silly word to use, brain clearly not engaged, and she apologised. I dont believe she is any more homophobic than the majority can be.
However, people still need to remember not all words have the same power to some as some others - because if you dont, that leads to all sorts of problems.
I see now how 'queer' has become a word I am supposed to be ok with, and indeed, am supposed to be a part of and be happy to have it used as some collective group noun for me. I hate that word. If anyone called me it, I'd happily correct them, but I do accept that it has been reclaimed by a section of people and so I try to stop myself getting my panties in a bunch over people using it.
However, it does still make me flinch, and once I've told someone I dont like the word, I appreciate if they try and moderate using it around me, or at the least to describe me or 'the gay community?!?!' as a whole. If you know someone you are with doesnt like a word and you go on using it anyway, that makes you just as bad for trying to impose and minimise someone else's feelings and experiences than any 'phobe doing it.
In this instance, she doesn't appear to have tried to justify her use of the word, rather she has apologised and should be allowed to move on with benefit of the doubt, imo anyway. If it happens again, then we have a problem.
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Post by The Ichi on Apr 27, 2019 14:46:23 GMT -5
I've never called someone that word. Congratulations, but at some point you’ve said something you have regretted and didn’t mean as much harm as it caused Yeah, but nothing bigoted. Its not hard to not do it.
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Post by atgnatpodcast on Apr 27, 2019 22:09:39 GMT -5
Congratulations, but at some point you’ve said something you have regretted and didn’t mean as much harm as it caused Yeah, but nothing bigoted. Its not hard to not do it. Ok just so we can get done with this back And forth, what would you like to happen? Fired? Banned from the sport? What is going to help you move on with your life?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2019 23:59:23 GMT -5
She’s Australian right? Aren’t using sexist and homophobic slurs over there a sign that they like you? Maybe a consequence of being upside down land, they’re probably really polite and respectful to people who they dislike.
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Apr 28, 2019 0:38:13 GMT -5
It was dumb, she apologized, she shouldn’t do it again. Now the guys running the stream? Those guys should have gotten their release papers already. This is like the fourth or fifth incident involving them. Four or five times of this shit for the “Insiderz” or whatever they call themselves is probably something that needs to be addressed.
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Post by The Ichi on Apr 28, 2019 1:39:04 GMT -5
Yeah, but nothing bigoted. Its not hard to not do it. Ok just so we can get done with this back And forth, what would you like to happen? Fired? Banned from the sport? What is going to help you move on with your life? Nothing but a talking to, and I don't think anyone has asked for more than that.
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Post by FinalGwen on Apr 28, 2019 20:20:59 GMT -5
Yeah, but nothing bigoted. Its not hard to not do it. Ok just so we can get done with this back And forth, what would you like to happen? Fired? Banned from the sport? What is going to help you move on with your life? I'd like for her to realise how it's a really awful thing to do, and that's going to be a lot harder to sink in when there's people constantly defending this and saying how it's not that big of a deal, so...
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Post by trollrogue on Apr 29, 2019 13:00:16 GMT -5
I saw just a clip of this live stream, from what I could gather Brennan was hosting some kind of drinking game, where viewers donate money to get the Superstars on the live stream to do drink penalties/insult the viewers who donated money. So Rhea was paid to throw an insult at a viewer which caused her to say that stupid shit.
Not the best idea in the world for someone who is literally only as successful as their reputation to kids and family-friendly-marketers to play risque drinking games on live streams. Actually, isn't drinking games banned on Twitch? I wonder what streaming service this was on, is there an Australian version of Twitch I'm not aware of?
In any case, saying what Rhea said is pretty regrettable for her, now she's gone and labeled something used to describe homosexuals and/or bisexuals as something you use as "an insult" and as a result she's burned bridges with a lot of potential fans now. Some people in this thread are saying that NXTUK will just slap her on the wrist, I think she is in danger of being fired here a former Champion can't get away with saying that. It's as if WWE (a publicly-traded company) said that now at this point unless she gets fired.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2019 18:42:08 GMT -5
I'd be amused as a fly on the wall at the WWE offices after this, explaining to a veteran wrestler/boss why any of them think it's a smart career decision to go on any sort of stream and act a fool. The odds of negative things coming from it are just insanely high. "Sorry, Mr. Regal, but it was something to do and we were bored. And wanted an extra $15."
People are idiots. And by that, I'm not really talking about Rhea or the others on the stream. I'm more referring to the people who not only were irreparably offended by something as silly as this, and also then "refused to accept her apology" because it "wasn't the right kind of apology for me." Get off your high horse. Kids make mistakes.
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Post by The Ichi on May 1, 2019 18:49:09 GMT -5
I'd be amused as a fly on the wall at the WWE offices after this, explaining to a veteran wrestler/boss why any of them think it's a smart career decision to go on any sort of stream and act a fool. The odds of negative things coming from it are just insanely high. "Sorry, Mr. Regal, but it was something to do and we were bored. And wanted an extra $15." People are idiots. And by that, I'm not really talking about Rhea or the others on the stream. I'm more referring to the people who not only were irreparably offended by something as silly as this, and also then "refused to accept her apology" because it "wasn't the right kind of apology for me." Get off your high horse. Kids make mistakes. You just bumped a thread that hadn't been posted in for 3 days to call people offended. Think about that. And I haven't seen anyone refuse her apology. It seems largely like people have moved on in hope it wont happen again.
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on May 1, 2019 18:53:00 GMT -5
It was dumb, she apologized, she shouldn’t do it again. Now the guys running the stream? Those guys should have gotten their release papers already. This is like the fourth or fifth incident involving them. Four or five times of this shit for the “Insiderz” or whatever they call themselves is probably something that needs to be addressed. What exactly has happened with these guys?
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